US PoliEra 2020 |OT6| I will not be closing this thread when the second wave hits.

GoldenEye 007 · Jul 31, 2020

For the liability thing, my understanding is that it excludes gross incompetence. So if a business is reasonably taking precautions, they're protected. If they intentionally don't have guidelines/sanitation and are just being negligent, then not.

If that's the case and Dems get the vast majority of their demands, it might be worth accepting. I get that's still shitty, but I could see that. But as it stands now, then yeah no way that can happen. And hopefully people see liability protections as bullshit in general and not worth keeping to prevent real help from coming.

Zeno · Jul 31, 2020

cameron said:
Elections no longer delayed. Donald wants you to drain the swamp on Nov 3rd:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Very disappointed in @SenSchumer for blocking the temporary extension of the $600 unemployment benefits. The Do Nothing Democrats are more interested in playing politics than in helping our deserving people. DRAIN THE SWAMP ON NOVEMBER 3RD!

3:37 PM · Jul 31, 2020

He properly tagged Schumer and didn't use a nickname so someone else wrote the tweet.

I guess this is their new strategy?

metalslimer · Jul 31, 2020

Unemployment needs to be 600 through the rest of the year to even consider passing it with those protections. There will certainly not be any legislation passed basically until next year so this is the last chance

Sheepinator · Jul 31, 2020

I'm so tired of that bs framing.

Dems: Passed bill way back on May 15th to extend the benefits. Mitch wouldn't bring it to a vote.
GOP: Sat on that bill, waited until the last minute, failed to do anything.

And people actually believe that "do nothing Dems" crap.

SquirrelSr · Jul 31, 2020

cameron said:
Elections no longer delayed. Donald wants you to drain the swamp on Nov 3rd:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Very disappointed in @SenSchumer for blocking the temporary extension of the $600 unemployment benefits. The Do Nothing Democrats are more interested in playing politics than in helping our deserving people. DRAIN THE SWAMP ON NOVEMBER 3RD!

3:37 PM · Jul 31, 2020

He properly tagged Schumer and didn't use a nickname so someone else wrote the tweet.

But House Democrats already passed a plan since May??? The only thing disappointing is shirtbag trying to deflect while cutting UI and trying to get liability protection for corporations.

BoboBrazil · Jul 31, 2020

Sheepinator said:
I'm so tired of that bs framing.

Dems: Passed bill way back on May 15th to extend the benefits. Mitch wouldn't bring it to a vote.
GOP: Sat on that bill, waited until the last minute, failed to do anything.

And people actually believe that "do nothing Dems" crap.

This is a problem with Dems messaging and how they expect the media to do their messaging job for them instead of being all over tv making this point

Golden Darkness · Jul 31, 2020

Since someone previously mentioned Minnesota, here's a poll taken from July 22-23, with the Senate Race included for good measure.

A rare Minnesota poll that includes the Senate race, from @ppppolls/@GiffordsCourage:

Trump 42
Biden 52

MN-Sen
Lewis (R) 39
Smith (D-inc.) 48

(July 22-23, 1,218 RVs)

https://giffords.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/MinnesotaResults2.pdf

Sheepinator · Jul 31, 2020

BoboBrazil said:
This is a problem with Dems messaging and how they expect the media to do their messaging job for them instead of being all over tv making this point

Agreed, but with the caveat that none of them have the megaphone Buffoon has, or Fox News.

Iolo · Jul 31, 2020

1. Article that says Bass and her allies are putting on a full court press shockingly contains a lot of quotes from Bass allies putting on a full court press.
2. Bass reportedly has absolutely no ambition to be President, but a burning desire to be VP, the VP literally having no constitutional duties other than to step in as President.
3. Biden's oft-stated desire that his VP should transition to a new generation of Democratic leadership will have him pick an Obama alum (Rice) or someone who supposedly has no desire to lead (Bass).
4. Biden's main flaw has always been indecisiveness. I expect no less from the VP search.
5. Harris at least seems like she wants to be president.
6. No one outside Joe & Jill actually knows anything, least of all reporters for articles about the VP search.
7. Duckworth for VP.

Greigor the FellHand · Jul 31, 2020

Golden Darkness said:
Since someone previously mentioned Minnesota, here's a poll taken from July 22-23, with the Senate Race included for good measure.

A rare Minnesota poll that includes the Senate race, from @ppppolls/@GiffordsCourage:

Trump 42
Biden 52

MN-Sen
Lewis (R) 39
Smith (D-inc.) 48

(July 22-23, 1,218 RVs)

https://giffords.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/MinnesotaResults2.pdf

MINNESOTAAA!!

EHHH

Greigor the FellHand · Jul 31, 2020

Iolo said:
1. Article that says Bass and her allies are putting on a full court press shockingly contains a lot of quotes from Bass allies putting on a full court press.
2. Bass reportedly has absolutely no ambition to be President, but a burning desire to be VP, the VP literally having no constitutional duties other than to step in as President.
3. Biden's oft-stated desire that his VP should transition to a new generation of Democratic leadership will have him pick an Obama alum (Rice) or someone who supposedly has no desire to lead (Bass).
4. Biden's main flaw has always been indecisiveness. I expect no less from the VP search.
5. Harris at least seems like she wants to be president.
6. No one outside Joe & Jill actually knows anything, least of all reporters for articles about the VP search.
7. Duckworth for VP.

I actually agree now.

Of all the VP picks.

The Untouchable ticket is

Biden, Duckworth.

GoP//Trump would be unable to attack them

shadow_shogun · Jul 31, 2020

@mkraju
Dem lawmaker at election security briefing adds that US officials are NOT warning about forged ballots, something Trump said just today Russia and China would do. Our story: https://cnn.com/2020/07/31/politics/trump-intelligence-officials-contradict-mail-in-voting-sow-doubt-foreign/index.html…

Rep. Jared "Please Wear a Mask" Huffman

@JaredHuffman

US House candidate, CA-2
I received the latest classified Intel briefing on election security yesterday. Tons of information about real threats, but nothing - literally zero - about any country doing or preparing to do this. Trump is lying again. https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1289274890982313984…

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4:10 PM · Jul 31, 2020

Orayn · Jul 31, 2020

Jason Lewis deserves to lose by way more than 9 points, he is an absolute slimeball of a person.

cameron · Jul 31, 2020

Sahil Kapur @sahilkapur

FACT CHECK: Pelosi passed a six-month extension of the $600/week payment in the House. Senate Republicans oppose that idea and offered one yesterday to cut it to $200/week or 66% of wages, which Schumer blocked while calling for passage of the House bill.

Trump's position on jobless aid has zigzagged. On 7/1 he told Fox Biz the $600 payment was a "disincentive to work." On 7/29 he told reporters the Dem-backed figure isn't "high enough." Yesterday I asked Cos Meadows about this; he said DJT favors McSally's 1-week $600 extension.

4:05 PM · Jul 31, 2020

cameron · Jul 31, 2020

Kevin Robillard @Robillard

One thing to remember as you read VP search stories: Biden has been in politics for so long that he has countless friends and allies, but his actual inner circle consists of a very small number of people who don't regularly talk to the press.

3:17 PM · Jul 31, 2020

Steadman™ @AsteadWesley

people who have strong opinions on running mates are deep partisans who are already voting. one of the reasons the discourse around it is so bad, is that the process is really a vibes contest ppl act like is an electoral one

4:28 PM · Jul 31, 2020

Iolo · Jul 31, 2020

Thank you Kevin R. for amplifying my point #6.

cameron · Jul 31, 2020

Mini MAGA rally in Florida:

Royalan · Jul 31, 2020

1. It really sucks to see Kamala Harris being put through the bullshit ringer for a second time. She's tough, but it hurts to see.
2. It sucks seeing Karen Bass being pit against her as the "anti-Kamala" when they're actually good friends irl and have always supported each other. It really sucks to see people "lifting up" Bass because she's, apparently, "docile."
3. It sucks seeing the Democratic Party being so. damn. awful about all this racism and misogyny being aimed at every Black woman alleged to be on the VP shortlist. And racism and misogyny is exactly what this is.
4. it sucks that Biden won't make up his goddamn mind so this can stop.
5. The Democratic Party really does not deserve the loyalty that Black people give it. Really doesn't deserve it.

I'm tired. Black people are tired.

Ignatz Mouse · Jul 31, 2020

Royalan said:
1. It really sucks to see Kamala Harris being put through the bullshit ringer for a second time. She's tough, but it hurts to see.
2. It sucks seeing Karen Bass being pit against her as the "anti-Kamala" when they're actually good friends irl and have always supported each other. It really sucks to see people "lifting up" Bass because she's, apparently, "docile."
3. It sucks seeing the Democratic Party being so. damn. awful about all this racism and misogyny being aimed at every Black woman alleged to be on the VP shortlist. And racism and misogyny is exactly what this is.
4. it sucks that Biden won't make up his goddamn mind so this can stop.
5. The Democratic Party really does not deserve the loyalty that Black people give it. Really doesn't deserve it.

I'm tired. Black people are tired.

The people jockeying behind the scenes and leaking are horrible people.

Hiphopopotamus · Jul 31, 2020

cameron said:
Mini MAGA rally in Florida:

I see at least 6 folks in masks. Good for them.

Make sure to hydrate, goobers

StopMakingSense · Jul 31, 2020

GoldenEye 007 said:
For the liability thing, my understanding is that it excludes gross incompetence. So if a business is reasonably taking precautions, they're protected. If they intentionally don't have guidelines/sanitation and are just being negligent, then not.

Only issue is 'Gross' necessitates a level of willfulness in the negligence that, depending on the case, can be a high bar to clear.

Vector · Jul 31, 2020

Didn't Politico already accidentally "leak" that VPmala is real?

infamous5445 · Jul 31, 2020

If I remember correctly, this was the only pollster that had Trump leading once this entire year lol

Aaron · Jul 31, 2020

Vector said:
Didn't Politico already accidentally "leak" that VPmala is real?

Probably not. I imagine they have prepared articles or blurbs for all the major VP choices. Same with how basically every noteworthy celebrity and politician you can think of already has pre-written obituaries just in case (CNN accidentally ran a report of Biden's death in 2015, straight up).

I can only imagine the wrench Palin's pick in 08 threw into all that for them...

GardenPepper · Jul 31, 2020

Royalan said:
1. It really sucks to see Kamala Harris being put through the bullshit ringer for a second time. She's tough, but it hurts to see.
2. It sucks seeing Karen Bass being pit against her as the "anti-Kamala" when they're actually good friends irl and have always supported each other. It really sucks to see people "lifting up" Bass because she's, apparently, "docile."
3. It sucks seeing the Democratic Party being so. damn. awful about all this racism and misogyny being aimed at every Black woman alleged to be on the VP shortlist. And racism and misogyny is exactly what this is.
4. it sucks that Biden won't make up his goddamn mind so this can stop.
5. The Democratic Party really does not deserve the loyalty that Black people give it. Really doesn't deserve it.

I'm tired. Black people are tired.

100% agreed on all counts.

kalindana · Jul 31, 2020

RBG was discharged from the hospital today:

BWoog · Jul 31, 2020

I saw #IStandWithRingo trending and I immediately thought, "Fuck me, did Ringo Starr rape someone?"

And instead found this:

sphagnum · Jul 31, 2020

I know next to nothing about Bass, but Wikipedia tells me she was part of the Venceremos Brigade, and now she has my attention!

patientzero · Jul 31, 2020

Aaron said:
Probably not. I imagine they have prepared articles or blurbs for all the major VP choices. Same with how basically every noteworthy celebrity and politician you can think of already has pre-written obituaries just in case (CNN accidentally ran a report of Biden's death in 2015, straight up).

I can only imagine the wrench Palin's pick in 08 threw into all that for them...

studyguy · Jul 31, 2020

Not at all convinced convinced the VP spot moves the dial nearly as much as they're marketing it to in this particular election. Historically the data makes it relevant on the margins based on the state the VP reps. No one is worrying about my state margins fam.
Just pick a fucking VP already god damn.

Minty Freshness · Jul 31, 2020

patientzero said:

This skit still makes me laugh every time.

Royalan · Jul 31, 2020

studyguy said:
Not at all convinced convinced the VP spot moves the dial nearly as much as they're marketing it to in this particular election.
Just pick a fucking VP already god damn.

At this point the VP selection is causing more harm than good.

Several talented, exceptional, gifted Black women are being dragged through the mud while Biden twiddles his goddamn fingers.

I have never before been this disgusted with my party.

Dr. Feel Good · Jul 31, 2020

Has Karen Bass really done all the much in her time in Congress?

patientzero · Jul 31, 2020

Minty Freshness said:
This skit still makes me laugh every time.

"He was delicious."

RolandGunner · Jul 31, 2020

infamous5445 said:
If I remember correctly, this was the only pollster that had Trump leading once this entire year lol

Not great obviously but Emerson had Biden up four last month as well. Throw it on the pile as the kids say.

studyguy · Jul 31, 2020

Bad news for Michigan elections this fall. Michigan Supreme Court, by 4-3 vote, refuses to hear case seeking postmark deadline for counting absentee ballots.

Get your ballots in as early as possible, these state courts suck.

GoldenEye 007 · Jul 31, 2020

VP jockeying and lobbying is incredibly common, no? Are these leaks being done by Biden's people or people trying to angle in for a position?

Either way, I think only those that closely follow politics are paying attention to that. And whenever it's announced, people will move on and talk about something else.

studyguy · Jul 31, 2020

lmao the daily caller just linked Bass to scientology with a story a minute ago.
Apparently someone in that rag outlet found an oppo for even a mostly unknown.

BWoog · Jul 31, 2020

With every fiber of my being, fuck Will Hurd.

YamchasRevenge · Jul 31, 2020

studyguy said:
lmao the daily caller just linked Bass to scientology with a story a minute ago.
Apparently someone in that rag outlet found an oppo for even a mostly unknown.

It's literally on the main site of the Scientology website. But yeah....game over. That's 100% disqualifying.

DrROBschiz · Jul 31, 2020

studyguy said:
Get your ballots in as early as possible, these state courts suck.

Thankfully our state does have ballot drop boxes (at least we do in my area)

Make sure to look into this or mail early!

Slayven · Jul 31, 2020

cameron said:
Mini MAGA rally in Florida:

concrete reflects heat

studyguy · Jul 31, 2020

YamchasRevenge said:
It's literally on the main site of the Scientology website. But yeah....game over. That's 100% disqualifying.

Yeah seems she was there for a blue ribbon opening.

Los Angeles Cuts the Ribbon on a New Ideal Church of Scientology

The world’s first Church of Scientology, formed in 1954, joined the global roster of Ideal Churches of Scientology on April 24, 2010.

www.scientology.org

Also commemorating the occasion was Ms. Karen Bass, Speaker Emeritus of the California State Assembly: "As a public servant, I try to do everything in my power to give a voice to the voiceless, and to guarantee that no one goes unheard. But through human rights education, we empower everyone to lift their voice and to be heard. The Church of Scientology I know has made a difference, because your Creed is a universal creed and one that speaks to all people everywhere."

Between Qanon, wild conspiracies and the like... I should have expected scientology to show up eventually.

infamous5445 · Jul 31, 2020

So yeah, I think I'd rather stick with Kamala's policing record then Bass's relationship with Cuba and Scientology.

less · Jul 31, 2020

BWoog said:
With every fiber of my being, fuck Will Hurd.

Lets not forget that Beto didn't publicly support the Dem challenger to Hurd. What a dumb decision by Beto.

SwordsmanofS · Jul 31, 2020

kalindana · Jul 31, 2020

BREAKING: #SCOTUS won't halt construction of border wall during litigation. Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan dissent.

Wag · Jul 31, 2020

kalindana said:
BREAKING: #SCOTUS won't halt construction of border wall during litigation. Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan dissent.

He's above the law.

maxx720 · Jul 31, 2020

RailWays said:
Cuomo stays shit

It's amazing to me that NY has this innate ability to elect some of the worst governors and mayor's.

SwordsmanofS · Jul 31, 2020

I won't lie, I laughed.

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