This wouldn't be the first time, something similar happened with developers and the N64 controller.
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[Vandal] Exclusive new details about the next Nintendo console (Bigger than Switch, smaller than Steam Deck, joycons will be magnetic)
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Look, but dont touch. Touch, but dont taste. Taste, but dont swallow.
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I always thought we'd get a bunch of cool peripherals, especially controllers, with the OG Switch.
Never happened. 🤣
There will be multiple stages to the process: getting manufacturers excited about the potential for new categories of accessories, or used to the conceptual changes in design so that they can start production planning - but obviously actual prototypes or detailed manufacturing designs will require more information.
Controlling leaks is essential to keep the Switch selling. The partner rollout will be in stages, with committed partners getting CAD designs, likely all at the same time to avoid complaints about competitive advantage.
I think that the *Touch* word is significant. Is the gimmick like someone already said you only need to "Touch" the console with various peripherals and it connects! This could be true maybe of AR/VR!
I am excited for Nintendo *TOUCH*
I am excited for Nintendo *TOUCH*
That's what I was hoping to see. I'm not sure how magnetic joycons isn't a disaster waiting to happen. Unless there's an extra lock mechanism in place.
It's pretty standard in many industries.
Car parts manufacturers often also receive prototype cars in an all black "case" where you can only see the silhouette/form factor of the car but not even the logo of the manufacturer or anything that's still supposed to be a secret, interiors, design etc etc.
Source: I've seen some of these.
Yes, 100%.
Think about it, for it not to be true either the guys at Vandal made it up, or all the different sources made it up.
Clearly all the sources wouldn't make something like that up, so thats out of the question
Now the guys at Vandal, why would make that up? Makes no sense, irregardless of their proven track record, they have nothing to win making some bizarre shit like that. Now you add their track record and it would be totally out of character.
So again, it's weird, but the alternative is even more outlandish. Just some critical thinking.
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It's very common in the tech industry, it just doesn't get talked about much for obvious reasons. There's some cool stuff out there about iPhone prototypes being worked on in isolation with each department not knowing what the device would look like. They would work with wooden boxes connected to cables or nondescript boards. In some cases teams would see the final design at the same time as the public.
This thread is delivering 😂
It has the aroma of Wario and the taste of fresh oregano
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Ehhhh...in terms of mass market appeal Steam Deck isn't competing with Nintendo and never has (and both companies know it). Steam Deck releasing so long after Switch + the price it has + using versions of games that naturally have hardware scaling due to PC requirements also means that they aren't totally comparable like that anyway.
Switch 2 is rumored to be roughly as powerful as a PS4 Pro which is going to be more than enough for the general market that is interested in the Switch now/got it to be the sales juggernaut it is. They just have to nail price + games and make sure people want to transition from their Switch to their new system, but right now the ball is firmly in their court.
The more I think about this the less I believe it; magnets CAN be really strong! They can't possibly use strong enough ones to connect controllers without them being dangerous to kids.
I assume the want you to buy the new Pro controller even if you own an older one - so it having new features like Analog triggers is likely.
1. Yes, but we have more than enough clues and rumors and copyright patent stuff about it that something to some degree will be real, unless they really scrapped everything about that besides the joycon connection. But that would surprise me. It would be so fitting if it won't be "just" a Switch 2 but rather something with a stupid name and a gimmick.
I know on what I would put my money on if I had to bet.
2. Basically 1.
3. You basically also could with the Wii U but here we are.
This is funny to me. People say this as a defense for decades. And yet, I still have to see a single one that doesn't look like shit. Especially in the handheld sector.
People said this over and over again about the first Steam Deck, then it came out and, surprise surprise, the screen was dogshit. LCD bleeding, colorless dogshit.
I have both Steam Decks still here and my god what a difference.
And like I said, people said the exact same thing as you right now before the Deck came out.
Sure not every OLED is perfect, but oh boy was the Switch OLED an absolute bombshell. Probably still the most high end high tech looking thing Nintendo ever released.
I think because its Nintendo ( i know its that again!) it has to have something more than just raw power!
Nintendo always innovate! Welcome the Nintendo *TOUCH*
Nintendo always innovate! Welcome the Nintendo *TOUCH*
Why not just show a 3D-printed replica with identical dimensions but all the fine details removed?
Think about the keyword! Touch!
First Switch because thats what you do and now TOUCH even faster than switch!
I feel this is the latest one word that will really catch on like Switch, but the way they will do it, it will use various add ons.
First Switch because thats what you do and now TOUCH even faster than switch!
I feel this is the latest one word that will really catch on like Switch, but the way they will do it, it will use various add ons.
Magnets doesn't sound believable to me.
So it's probably true, because I would have doubted the legitimacy of many of Nintendo's console features and form factors over the decades.
"What do you mean the Gamecube has a handle? Sounds wrong to me."
"A handheld with two screens? Why?"
"The console is called the Wii and the controller looks like TV remote? Yeah, sure /sarcasm"
Etc...
So it's probably true, because I would have doubted the legitimacy of many of Nintendo's console features and form factors over the decades.
"What do you mean the Gamecube has a handle? Sounds wrong to me."
"A handheld with two screens? Why?"
"The console is called the Wii and the controller looks like TV remote? Yeah, sure /sarcasm"
Etc...
I'm sure there will be. I mean the current joy-cons slide down the rails and then lock in place. Chances are the joy-cons still lock in place with a mechanism,with the magnets largely used to ensure the joy-cons are kept stable.
I know Nintendo can be a bit out there but this sounds like absolute bullshit.
What would manufacturers gain by being able to feel it if they can't see it? Why just not let them touch it at all.
We'll see. A magnetic connection seems unlikely to me as it would be quite difficult to design in a way that would be both strong enough to work and not also potentially unsafe for users. I could see it as a way of further securing the controllers, in addition to a rail like on the Switch, but not as the main method of attachment.
Thought the same thing.
If it's some ultra strong neodymium magnet, it's gonna crush kids' fingers. This is Nintendo. Their legal department is so defensive they mandate that every piece of marketing only use phrasing like "The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom game for the Nintendo Switch family of systems." They're not going to allow this if there's a whiff legal exposure.
If the magnets are weak enough to be safe, there'll be a separate form of attachment, which makes the whole thing pointless. An electromagnet makes no sense unless it drains the battery nonstop. Otherwise people will have to detach the joycon whenever they turn the system off, which is a nightmare for portability.
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It's not the first time Nintendo has done this and you have multiple people here that say it happens in different industries. It's not crazy at all.
Can't you make it work so that it only activates when the controllers are directly pushed against the console, so with fingers blocking that it would not work? Doesn't sound too impossible to me.
It could just be a shell they can use for measurements and start planning out their own stuff.
Considering the "touch me" t-shirts from the previous generation I certainly do not miss this kind of decisions.
As much as I hate the Joycons and their trash design, magnets..is an odd choice. Sure they'd be strong but still I can't imagine they won't come off accidentally during 'vigorous' gameplay..and wouldn't they get randomly stuck to anything metal around she in your entertainment center and not exactly be the most practical for young kids?
I'm pressing X to doubt.
I'm pressing X to doubt.
Man, I didn't even think about that. With the Switch 2 potentially being an AI upscale powerhouse and MS looking to port everything and it's brother, I could see Nintendo wanting analogues, but perhaps the forward compatibility would just turn those triggers into two position buttons.
Sounds crazy to me they can get accessory partners on board and they can't even show them it and they have to feel it within a box, what? Madness.
Otherwise, surprised to hear its only slightly bigger than a Switch and "nowhere near" a Deck. I was expecting to be close to Deck size if it's aiming for similar spec. Interested to see/hear what the machine will be capable of.
Otherwise, surprised to hear its only slightly bigger than a Switch and "nowhere near" a Deck. I was expecting to be close to Deck size if it's aiming for similar spec. Interested to see/hear what the machine will be capable of.
I didn't know that existed! Does seem like it'd solve one problem with this design.
