Inside Victoria Alonso’s Shocking Exit From Marvel Studios
Behind the shock termination of veteran Marvel Studios executive Victoria Alonso.
variety.com
Would honestly recommend just reading the full article, tough one to select excerpts from
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Variety - Inside Victoria Alonso’s Shocking Exit From Marvel Studios
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Maybe the announced slowdown of content will help in some capacity, but it won't fix shit like this
It's such a deeply inefficient process if you're constantly redoing stuff along the way. This is not one person - this is the pipeline, and it's fucked.
It's such a deeply inefficient process if you're constantly redoing stuff along the way. This is not one person - this is the pipeline, and it's fucked.
Yea this is my biggest takeaway too
*insert GOT quote about judgment and swinging the sword
The article says a lot we've heard before about VFX and stuff but nothing specific.
Was she not delivering enough? Did Disney want more?
Was the quality an issue?
Was the way VFX being treated the issue?
It's all conjecture still.
Was she not delivering enough? Did Disney want more?
Was the quality an issue?
Was the way VFX being treated the issue?
It's all conjecture still.
somebody's kids saw the movie and joked about it with their dad and she got the boot the next week
The studio revered for their unbelievable forethought and long-term plans is terrible at exercising forethought and developing concrete long-term plans. Shocking.
You mean the "three up and coming marvel actors" and the "disney executive"? I guess not.
Who knows what happened here. A lot of studios but off more than they could chew during the streaming wars.
Maybe they thought they could do it and underestimated the work involved.
That seems possible, if only she was cut loose as a scapegoat.
Wouldn't be the first time they pin the blame on a woman.
Yep. Co-signed. They can trot out all the anonymous sources they like to say, oh, Alonso never did this, always professional, etc. - but anyone who is in the position to know (i.e., a position further down the ladder), knows all too well the truth. A fellow executive having kind words for her means nothing.
Very clearly imo, this was the only one that got loud pushback about it iirc
No, I asked how do you know this: 'considering a lot of this shit is his fault due to scheduling and not pushing back against the content tsunami being asked.'
How do you know what he did or did not do? Was just curious.
Do I know if he sent out emails complaining about the scheduling? No. He however as lead of the MCU is responsible for the products and scheduling of the TV shows and movies being released. If we're giving credit to him when things are going well then he deserves blame when they things are going poorly.
Also judging by the article, the execs know the scheduling is a problem but Alonso also is essentially the fall person for the MCU's current issues.
Please spill the tea. I have a nephew interested in computer art and wants to do vfx for a living. I'm trying to steer him to more lucrative and less stressful areas in compsci.
Not a vfx worker but, VFX are the only ununionized part of a hollywood production. They are overworked and under payed, and directors, not just marvel, often treat VFX as some magical part of the process where they can just change whatever they want at will, instead of the craft it is. Leading to alot of work having to be either thrown away completely or redone multiple times.
I agree, he's certainly responsible. But just like I'd hold Iger more responsible for the immense pressure to produce the sequel trilogy extremely quickly than Kennedy, I'd be very curious how those conversation went between Feige and Iger, or Feige and Chapek.
Disney machine said make-a the content. Things got shaky to meet the content demands. Then faceless executives they pointed out the scape goat. And now they are delaying all the projects.
For sure, it does sound like this was the sad result from Chapek going full hog but QM was the end result. It is insane to cut her like this though, time will tell.
I'm sure there are many sides to this story. My corporate world experience makes me want to side with the complaining workers.
That's how I feel about it. Even if he wasn't the main problem ( who knows) he still shares the blame.
That's how I feel about it. Even if he wasn't the main problem ( who knows) he still shares the blame.
Most of us have stories (and swap them over beers), but to get a half-decent sense of it, it's easier to point to the r/vfx thread: reddit
As someone with 20+ years in the industry, I assure you - experiences with this person were not the norm (there is such a thing as a good client, rare though it may be), and in general the worse the story about how Alonso ran her shows and the teams under her, the more true it likely is.
Not that I don't believe you but Variety also clearly quotes a vfx artist
I'm most curious about the blacklisting rumor. If she didn't provide support and unduly pushed the vfx firms of her own volition (as opposed to being forced into it by higher execs) that's enough to say fuck her but it's a whole different can of worms to be personally fucking up the lives of low level artists
yeah I don't see this as a signal that things are about to get better. She did what Marvel/Disney asked.
The Marvels was delayed for VFX revisions IIRC.
GOTG3 apparently had little issues on that regard, probably because Gunn had a finished script they all agreed on before shooting
The only thing we know is Iger wanted delays and spread things out.
I think some stuff might have been out of her control, like the huge demand of content, but then things were made even harder on the VFX teams when they had so many different people in charge approve and give notes on shots. That's the kind of area I imagine she could have eased pressure instead of adding.
www.vulture.com
Inside the VFX Union Brewing in Hollywood
Visual-effects technicians have never been more vital to movies and TV. Can studios like Marvel accept that?
www.vulture.com
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This article had like zero meat, barely anything new or interesting to be quite honest
Being from Argentina is all it takes I guess? lol
Being from Argentina is all it takes I guess? lol
Edit: Nvm was insensitive
Being from Argentina is all it takes I guess? lol
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I don't know who to believe now. But I suppose all the VFX workers are the ones I should be listening to.