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kalindana

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The Fight to Save ‘Euphoria’: Inside Rewrites, Reimagining Zendaya’s Rue and a Time Jump for Season 3 (EXCLUSIVE)

"Euphoria" Season 3 is delayed at HBO as Sam Levinson rewrites scripts, plans for a time jump and hears some of Zendaya's notes about a new direction.
What the network isn't saying is that no one at HBO is at all sure a third season of "Euphoria" will ever come to fruition given the disparate visions for the show's next chapter. But "Euphoria" has been invaluable to the network — attracting the often-elusive millennial and Gen Z viewers, as well as massive ratings — and executives from Casey Bloys on down feel they need to try to complete the story.
Sources tell Variety that Levinson, who exerts full creative control over the show, writing and directing every episode, proposed his vision for the season in winter 2023, featuring a time jump five years into the future for the former students of East Highland High School. HBO thought his pitch and early drafts for the season — which included meaty arcs for Sydney Sweeney and Jacob Elordi that a source described as "very compelling" — were a strong start. But after the WGA strike ended, and as the full scripts began coming in, they didn't pass muster with Zendaya, "Euphoria's" two-time Emmy-winning star who is now 27 years old. (HBO comment declined to comment, while Levinson's team referred to HBO's previous statement and declined further comment.)

Zendaya — who is in high demand in the film world thanks to the box-office performance of "Dune: Part Two" ($580 million worldwide and counting) — and Levinson have enjoyed a creatively symbiotic relationship from the start of "Euphoria," one that carried over to the Netflix film "Malcolm & Marie" during the pandemic. Though she doesn't have veto power over the scripts, as the star and an executive producer of "Euphoria," Zendaya offered Levinson significant input for where she'd like Season 3 to go. (A representative for Zendaya did not respond to a request for comment.) Sources say Levinson already was in overhaul mode, because actor Angus Cloud, who died of an overdose last July at age 25, figured heavily into the initial concept for the season. In November, "Euphoria" producer Kevin Turen died suddenly of heart failure at the age of 45, which was another traumatic blow for Levinson and the cast, and further slowed down the creative process.
When Levinson turned in his revised scripts in late 2023 and early 2024, HBO execs were now the ones feeling unsatisfied. There was a new arc for Zendaya's Rue, whose character in Levinson's first pass had been relegated to the background in a somewhat surprising storyline about her working as a private detective, which HBO had immediately vetoed. Among many other ideas for the rewrites, Zendaya had pitched an idea in which Rue, who is now sober as a twentysomething young woman, would be a pregnancy surrogate. But insiders say the new scripts simply didn't feel like the show tonally.
Given all the creative disagreements, HBO explored other options, including the idea of Levinson himself stepping away from "Euphoria." Other scenarios have been proposed but discarded, such as a movie or specials, like the two one-offs that HBO aired during the pandemic, one in December 2020, the other the following month. But sources tell Variety that not only are the show's cast contracted for a third season, but they're all truly committed to seeing "Euphoria" — with Levinson — through to the end with a third season, particularly Zendaya, Sweeney and Elordi.

The same can't necessarily be said for their respective representatives, given the required time commitment. After the second season, HBO renegotiated the cast's deals, and gave them significant salary bumps. But for Zendaya, Sweeney and Elordi, all three earn on "Euphoria" far less than what they could command doing films instead. Like Zendaya, Sweeney, 26, is coming off a hot big-screen hit with the romantic comedy "Anyone but You" ($217 million, despite being a title with no underlying pre-branded intellectual property). Elordi, 26, also has seen his stock rise significantly following the critical success of the psychological thriller "Saltburn" and is currently shooting Guillermo del Toro's big-budget Netflix film "Frankenstein."
Although Zendaya has yet to read Levinson's new scripts, sources say the third season isn't dead and could very well come together. HBO has freed up the cast for the rest of 2024, promising to come back to them on Oct. 1 with a solid plan to begin filming in 2025. The shoot, if were it to happen, would tie up the cast for 25 weeks, and the season will likely be reduced from eight episodes to six — though if Levinson were to need more, HBO is open to it.
The network is intent on trying to get one final season of "Euphoria" out of Levinson and his all-star cast. Some believe that the success or lack thereof of Zendaya's upcoming film "Challengers," which opens April 26, could influence "Euphoria's" fate — and looming in the background, of course, is the upcoming "Spider-Man 4," though the script for that film is still being worked on, and there's no director or start date.

What's not on the table for "Euphoria" is going into production without completed scripts that everyone is happy with. Levinson did that during the unprecedented situation that was "The Idol," his troubled project with the Weeknd, which was deemed a creative disaster and a costly vanity project for HBO.
 

IDontBeatGames

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When Levinson turned in his revised scripts in late 2023 and early 2024, HBO execs were now the ones feeling unsatisfied. There was a new arc for Zendaya's Rue, whose character in Levinson's first pass had been relegated to the background in a somewhat surprising storyline about her working as a private detective, which HBO had immediately vetoed. Among many other ideas for the rewrites, Zendaya had pitched an idea in which Rue, who is now sober as a twentysomething young woman, would be a pregnancy surrogate. But insiders say the new scripts simply didn't feel like the show tonally.
Thank the lord they vetoed both of these ideas, they're both terrible.
 

SeroTyler

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Oct 25, 2017
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PI Rue could have been silly fun, like her manic episodes in the "Trials and Tribulations of Trying To Pee While Depressed" episode.
 

Dice

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Oct 25, 2017
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Levinson's ditches plots are horrible.

Again, way better shows have been cancelled. Spare us. Let the actors go make better movies.
 

MinusTydus

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Jul 28, 2018
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They're going to delay it further, then eventually pull a Looking and wrap it with a one-off TV movie. Season 3 ain't happening. For a number of reasons.

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fzburner

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Jul 3, 2023
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Lmao Rue realistically wasn't making it past 18 so I get the difficulty continuing her storyline. Going to be funny to see what they actually land on
 

steejee

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Zendaya joins the Marines, comes back after two tours in a time skip. Hardened and scarred from battling some sort of spider creature in the deserts, she takes no shit from nobody but still wants romance.
 
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Levinson sounds like a big asshole from everything i heard and while season 1 + special episodes was good and refreshing, season 2 was already a huge decline

honestly just cancel the whole thing imo
 

Solo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Lol what a horrendous idea.

The one thing that is clear is that, if we ever do get a S3 (I'm feeling like it's a greater than 50% chance we wont), it's the end.
 

IDontBeatGames

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Levinson's ditches plots are horrible.

Again, way better shows have been cancelled. Spare us. Let the actors go make better movies.
I'd take a single one off special episode that wraps up some of our curiosities regarding where each character is rather than an unfocused, messy season three that only has a handful of cool/memorable moments at this point. I really don't know what more Euphoria could possibly have to say given how messy season two was and everything that's unfortunately happened since season two ended. I'd rather WB/Max just go back to their plan of rebooting Degrassi to tell a more focused story centered around a high school cast than revisit Euphoria which became more about the visuals than anything else.
 

Solo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Like, what even are those ideas? The PI one is at least so comically stupid it might have been entertaining on some level, while the surrogacy one sounds boring as hell. Why even try to change the DNA? People watch Euphoria for the sleaze, why try to move away from it?
 

Hero_of_the_Day

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Oct 27, 2017
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Lmao Rue realistically wasn't making it past 18 so I get the difficulty continuing her storyline.

Ehh. Anecdotes and all, but every addict I have ever known has made it well into adulthood. My cousin and brother in law both made it to their 40s. Think my uncle was in his 50s. They were all lifelong addicts who eventually OD'd. But, not everyone dies young.
 

JigglesBunny

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Oct 27, 2017
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Sam Levinson might truly be a once-in-a-generation hack. We haven't seen a bag fumbling dunce on his level in ages.
 

The Quentulated Mox

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you know, i think it'd be kinda nice if someone just came out and said "sorry, but this just isn't really coming together, the moment has passed, cast's grown up, show's over, no season 3" i think that would be respectable in a way
 

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When Levinson turned in his revised scripts in late 2023 and early 2024, HBO execs were now the ones feeling unsatisfied. There was a new arc for Zendaya's Rue, whose character in Levinson's first pass had been relegated to the background in a somewhat surprising storyline about her working as a private detective, which HBO had immediately vetoed. Among many other ideas for the rewrites, Zendaya had pitched an idea in which Rue, who is now sober as a twentysomething young woman, would be a pregnancy surrogate. But insiders say the new scripts simply didn't feel like the show tonally.

Oh no... Sam Levinson... what the fuck are you doing?!
 

Loud Wrong

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As long as the addiction shit is done, I don't care what they do with her character. That got so old.
 

loco

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Zendaya joins the Marines, comes back after two tours in a time skip. Hardened and scarred from battling some sort of spider creature in the deserts, she takes no shit from nobody but still wants romance.
I like this one except replace Marines with French Foreign Legionaire
 

Royalan

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My heart goes out to Nika King, the actress who plays Rue's mother. She's is easily one of the best performances on this show. She's infinitely talented, and yet has not been able to book a gig while Euphoria has been on hiatus.
 
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IDontBeatGames

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you know, i think it'd be kinda nice if someone just came out and said "sorry, but this just isn't really coming together, the moment has passed, cast's grown up, show's over, no season 3" i think that would be respectable in a way
It would be really respectable given that I think almost everyone can agree that the main stars of Euphoria have grown far past it since Season 2 finished. Zendaya, Sydney Sweeney and Jacob Elordi have all skyrocketed fame wise and all likely have much better offers coming their way that are worth the time and effort unlike Euphoria Season 3. I don't really know if anyone's truly clamoring for a full on season to close things out. They could easily do an amazing one hour special episode or two hour movie to tie everything up and tell us what direction each character is heading towards. It shouldn't be that hard to give Euphoria the closure some may want out of it.
 

fzburner

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Ehh. Anecdotes and all, but every addict I have ever known has made it well into adulthood. My cousin and brother in law both made it to their 40s. Think my uncle was in his 50s. They were all lifelong addicts who eventually OD'd. But, not everyone dies young.
I was referring more to her owing that dealer money since it was like 15k, wouldn't make sense at all for her to just live happily after that
 

thediamondage

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Oct 25, 2017
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i've never seen the show but i suggest setting season 3 on arrakis and having zendaya just play Chani before she met Mua'dib, hanging out killing harkonnen with her pals

"You know, washing your ass with sand is ok for a while but eventually you get yeast infections."
"what I do is pour some water of life down there, that stuff works for cleaning all your holes and it bleaches at the same time too! Just like a porn star!"
"I would kill a baron for some motherfucking spice, i love to fly"

like I said i've never seen the show but i imagine from what I've read thats what the dialogue is like.
 

ezekial45

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Imagine still giving Levinson a job after The Idol.
I honestly think The Idol must have put Levinson on thin ice with people. That project was such a waste, and considering how nightmarish the production was, it seems like HBO is being very, very hands-on with Euphoria S3 to make sure he doesn't get out of hand again.
 

Dice

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I remember watching The Idol and Joselyn would have all manner of tiny outfits to fuss with (they were beautiful, but she'd be wearing this stuff even around her house). Then near the end she wore a tshirt and it was like a breath of fresh air lol

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I really wish the show stuck with the original Britanny Spear inspiration and not the weird cult stuff.
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SolidSnakex

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Rue has even pointed out on the show that only an extremely low percentage of opioid addicts remain clean after rehab, so why not pull the trigger on the harsh reality of being an addict rather than going with some pure redemption arc for her?

My heart goes out to Nika King, the actress who plays Rue's mother. She's is easily one of the best performances on this show. She's infinitely talented, and yet has not been able to book a gig while Euphoria has been on hiatus.

It's interesting with Euphoria because so much of the cast has seemingly done really well since it started. Zendaya, Sydney, Hunter, Coleman, Storm, and Jacob are all riding high right now. But Maude, Nika, Alexa and Barbie have pretty much flatlined.
 
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HBO struggles with the 18-24 demo and finding larger young women audiences. This helps them get that audience back for one big final season while hopefully getting them into other shows.
 

Mindwipe

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A quick reminder when people get upset that "suits are interfering with the creative process" that sometimes the suits are absolutely correct and the creatives are screwing up.
 
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A quick reminder when people get upset that "suits are interfering with the creative process" that sometimes the suits are absolutely correct and the creatives are screwing up.
You never hear about it when it goes well so people think it's always a negative thing but there's absolutely times when it's necessary.