High riskKojima just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Kojima's next game for any system, nor will they purchase any of Microsoft's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Kojima has alienated an entire market with this move.
Kojima, publicly apologize and cancel your unannounced game for Xbox or you can kiss your business goodbye.
High rewardWhy the f*** would Kojima have to apologize for anything? He can make games wherever he feels like FFS.
And developing a game using which engine exactly? Decima, he got from Guerrilla Games for free?!!
From last year:
reaaaally doubt that's what's gonna happen. no way sony/guerrilla will let him continue to use the engine now. it's most likely gonna be an unreal engine game.
So how does this work? Platform holders should pay for development, marketing, distribution on games for no appreciable benefit?All of these 'moves' will just lead to more exclusive games from both Sony and MS.
Things like gamepass are great for competition. Exclusive games aren't.
reaaaally doubt that's what's gonna happen. no way sony/guerrilla will let him continue to use the engine now. it's most likely gonna be an unreal engine game.
Maybe? This narrative that it's like a messy divorce seems whack lol. They're independent. It's just business.But Kojima production still have that satelit studio at guerrilla games right?
ServicesSo how does this work? Platform holders should pay for development, marketing, distribution on games for no appreciable benefit?
hm, i'm not sure.But Kojima production still have that satelit studio at guerrilla games right?
Serious. You didn't see anywhere this level of shit-talking in the thread about Sony having a Remedy exclusive in the works, despite their long affiliation with Microsoft. Some folks are just WAAAY too invested in the console war.Maybe? This narrative that it's like a messy divorce seems whack lol. They're independent. It's just business.
Building a PC seems to be a good decision that keeps paying off for me.
Maybe? This narrative that it's like a messy divorce seems whack lol. They're independent. It's just business.
Why the f*** would Kojima have to apologize for anything? He can make games wherever he feels like FFS.
epic's deal with remedy, gendesign and playdead is for "multi-platform" games, so i assume EGS and consoles.Epic signed a deal with GenDesign (Fumito Ueda) too.
Wonder what their plan is? PC exclusive or also release on console?
epic's deal with remedy, gendesign and playdead is for "multi-platform" games, so i assume EGS and consoles.
One rumour had come from fans and one other from fan service.Serious. You didn't see anywhere this level of shit-talking in the thread about Sony having a Remedy exclusive in the works, despite their long affiliation with Microsoft. Some folks are just WAAAY too invested in the console war.
that thread barely got to page 4 ;_;Serious. You didn't see anywhere this level of shit-talking in the thread about Sony having a Remedy exclusive in the works
I saw Earvin x Hunter at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn't want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, "Oh, like you're doing now?"
I was taken aback, and all I could say was "Huh?" but he kept cutting me off and going "huh? huh? huh?" and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like "Sir, you need to pay for those first." At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually "to prevent any electrical infetterence," and then turned around and winked at me. I don't even think that's a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
I think its not that it flopped, more so it didnt set the world on fire. Pretty sure there were articles saying it was a profitable game.Dusk Golem said Sony considered Death Stranding a flop right? That lines up with Kojima having to search for a new publisher, so why not MS?
Dusk Golem said Sony considered Death Stranding a flop right? That lines up with Kojima having to search for a new publisher, so why not MS?
Death Stranding doesn't seem to have been a huge sales success and probably was fairly expensive to develop. Japan Studio's last commercial hit was in, like, 2005. I like Japanese games and I want Sony to keep funding them, but Jimbo is following the money. From a business perspective you can't really fault him for that.Sony going all in on western AAA titles with a few moneyhatted Square games and such is gonna bite them in the ass someday
I think its not that it flopped, more so it didnt set the world on fire. Pretty sure there were articles saying it was a profitable game.
Epic signed a deal with GenDesign (Fumito Ueda) too.
Wonder what their plan is? PC exclusive or also release on console?
First they were betrayed. Now they're abandoned.
I was actually boycotting any Microsoft console since the RROD shitshow but I don't get anything from holding that grudge and many things have changed ever since. On top of that it seems that STALKER is PC and XBOX exclusive and being one of my favorite franchises makes the decision even easier.Same, although I made the decision a few weeks ago. Just waiting on supply now.
Gamepass finally got to be too good of a deal for me, a doubter, to ignore.
I was actually boycotting any Microsoft console since the BSOD shitshow but I don't get anything from holding that grudge and many things have changed ever since. On top of that it seems that STALKER is PC and XBOX exclusive and being one of my favorite franchises makes the decision even easier.
As soon as consoles are available I'm getting one.
Sony should relinquish the Death Stranding IP to Kojima as a sign of good will.
I'm... not sure what this means?
Well the rumor was already known for some time now. Still, it's a pretty stark difference in terms of reaction.
Ooops. Indeed that one.
Huh, look at that, it is $10. I thought it was $15 for some reason.
Honestly? Good. That's competition and MS is making these kinds of moves because Sony has been aggressive all of last gen and started this gen off being aggressive (as long as we ignore that it's mostly because MS actually shot themselves in the foot in 2013.) Seeing the fact that MS needed to actually compete and gain back some market lead to Game Pass and day one games on it as well as the expansion of their first party. I'd love to see what Sony does when forced to compete and be aggressive like this.Between MLB and this I feel like Sony is going to start getting annoyed lol.
Tbh I'm entirely convinced that they knew what they were doing with that and wanted the entertainment too.🎵Don't Be So Serious🎵
But thanks for the laughs. Everyone please lay off poor Earvin x Hunter, the meme is almost 13 years old now and not everyone is going to know it.
I was hoping the 'cancel your unannounced game for Xbox' was just ridiculous enough to tip off even the uninitiated but I must've just missed the mark.
PlayStation doesn't own Kojima, he can work with whoever he wants. Just like PlayStation can choose which developers they want to work with.Does that Jim guy hate japan that much? How can you let Kohima go? Lol whatever I hope he makes an awesome though I wish he would do something for the switch too
Absolutely not, it's the opposite : the BlueBox rumour started on an enthusiast forum, the Xbox rumour with a goodie willingly placed on the shelve of an executive.Most of the reaction seems to be coming from PlayStation fans because of the ongoing Japan narrative stuff, lol.