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[Verge] Microsoft’s new Xbox Series S console confirmed in leaked controller packaging
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I'm basing that price point on the rumored manufacturing costs of $450 (which probably also was for the PS5 with disc drive since it wasn't announced yet and the article made no mention of it) so the one with disc drive should come in lower. And yes I know that even then it would still be sold at a loss, but that would be made back due to increased digital sales.
No
No way you save$100 with the disc less version. What's a disc drive cost sony? $10? You'll save$50 at most
I disagree. All Microsoft is doing is migrating their existing branding strategy of S = slim/entry-level and X = high-end/premium from the Xbox One generation to the Xbox Series generation.
By the time mainstream consumers are actually in the market for these new consoles, there will be Series S boxes next to Series X boxes on shelves and they will be clearly labeled just as the One S and One X boxes are now (S = HD gaming, 4K streaming; X = 4K gaming, 4K streaming).
Yeah that doesn't really make sense. I don't think Lockhart will have a disc drive either, so MS should have a pretty easy price advantage here.
Disappointed Microsoft didn't think of the elderly when considering their naming of this console
Is it? Cause at $400 for digital PS5, I'm getting myself two launch consoles. I'll have to see it to believe it, but that would be something else.
Though they are fixing it. They made it a little smaller, gave it USB-C, tweaked the bumpers and Dpad. I ain't complaining though.
I wonder what this will mean for Xbox Design Lab? Presumably the new controller won't be available on there for a bit but one would assume it would eventually replace the Xbox One controller form factor at some point but I wonder when and if they would essentially start over with the designs you can choose from?
That's a fair assumption! Though that being said I do believe that the Series S under the same philosophy could MSRP around 200 or 250. I can't see why MS would build a graphically less-capable console to sell around 20% less of the cost of a disc-free PS5 but stranger things have happened!
Regardless, I'm in the market of Series S being 200-300, even if tomwarren says I'm wrong, predictions don't cost a dime :P
Yes, I think that's a safe assumption.
If microsoft serves nearly as hard as rina did with aoty, they'll win this gen with ease!
It isn't about the price of the disc drive, but locking that person into purchasing all titles from their own marketplace. That along is HUGE and warranting the $100 price drop.
I was gonna hold off on getting new controllers but Robot White is pretty slick looking so... have another $60, Microsoft.
And Sony will also be having another PS5 event in 2 weeks. Seems like they aligned them together on purpose.
OK. I don't see the $100 savings happening though. If a drive costs Sony $10 they're already taking a loss by cutting $50
Good. Let's just get this over worth and get the rest of the details on both ecosystems. Burned the hell out on the drip feed marketing at this point.
May have already been asked and answered. Do xbox one controllers work on the series s/x consoles?
Yeah, I agree with this. Still skeptical of the "controller not included" rumor though. The cost to build an Xbox controller at this point has to be dirt cheap. People are worried about the Series S name confusing people, but imagine not bundling a controller with a console?
But how many ppl are already buying entirely digital NOW on ps4 when they can buy physical? A $100 savings isn't needed. People already buy digital
As a 'casual' when it comes to phones I have absolutely no idea what the most recent iPhone is called.
Numbers make it easy but microsoft have chosen different.
It's a lot easier when the Xbox One controller is 100% compatible with the Series S, unlike the PS4 controllers on PS5. That being said, I still don't buy the no controller thing.
It won't have a disc drive, I can't see it mattering hugely. This is aimed at the mass market, a large and growing chunk of whom are already all digital. People who buy and trade games regularly are going to be big videogame fans with limited budgets, which probably isn't a huge number of people, not enough to potentially add 10% onto the sticker price for.
Besides, if you're a budget-conscious gamer, there's always GamesPass.
Um no? Wasn't the xbox one originally $100 MORE than the ps4?
Yep. All One accessories work on the S/X. Controllers, headsets, fight sticks, etc
I doubted the name.
As much as they have established S = small/slim, X = power, i didn't think they'd go with Xbox SS.
I guess they expect people to just say the S or the X, which is pretty much what we do now.
At this moment I would only worry about if there's any other product from Microsoft or any other company that uses the same symbol as in "Xbox Series X|S".
In alphabet, first comes S then X. Also in that manual of use, we only see an Xbox Series X.
There are 2 (or more) cases:
1) It's a top quality fake and they forgot to add Xbox Series S design.
2) Xbox Series S has same design but just different components.
There are many possible cases and I believe more in 2nd situation I wrote.
In alphabet, first comes S then X. Also in that manual of use, we only see an Xbox Series X.
There are 2 (or more) cases:
1) It's a top quality fake and they forgot to add Xbox Series S design.
2) Xbox Series S has same design but just different components.
There are many possible cases and I believe more in 2nd situation I wrote.
I personally think, regarding prices:
Xbox Series X: 500
PS5: 500
PS5DE: 450
Xbox Series S: 300
Xbox One S: 200
With wiggle room abound :)
Xbox Series X: 500
PS5: 500
PS5DE: 450
Xbox Series S: 300
Xbox One S: 200
With wiggle room abound :)
Yeah I have to admit I'm skeptical about that too. The Xbox One controller apparently cost like $15 to manufacture and I don't see why this controller would be significantly more than that.
Yeah I've been vehemently against the Series S name. Goes completely against their own naming convention.
Why? They already have an S / X naming scheme that everyone understands. Makes sense for the next gen. Although Series S doesn't quite role of the tongue.
The argument is the money lost on hardware is a long term investment on software revenue. If Sony gets 30% of every digital sale and there is no option to buy physical, they make up that money over time,
But I do agree that $100 less would be surprising. Pretty big loss on a 399 PS5 when you factor in shipping/distribution and any cut the retailer takes, on top of BOM.
I don't see a problem with naming, why people stick to much with it? There are chinese smartphone like (just an example as a joke): Xiaomi 10 Max Lite Pro or a real one ... Samsung Galaxy Note20 Ultra 5G.
You will buy a console to play, why name matters much for you? If someone buys the wrong product later, then it's more of consumer problem. Also Xbox didn't went with numbers because it was Xbox vs PS2, and Xbox 4 vs PS5 wouldn't sound well.
Edit: I'm amazed about how people complain about this small things but don't complain about bigger ones.
Thanks. Now i understand the speculation of the series s having no controller. Still seems unlikely but damn if they could make the thing $250 cheaper than a series x....
I have three or four xbox one controllers.I would grab a series x for my girlfriends son without a seconds thought if it was $200/250 USD.
I don't think that's a very accurate statement for low and middle class families buying one console for their kids or themselves imo. Trading games is still very big and simply having the option is huge. We will see next gen with digital only models how well those do. If they don't do as well as people here think, and even if digital keeps being around 50%, that would lead me to believe that consumers may be fine with digital but not as their only option.
it just seems like an unnecessary thing to cut imo.
I think they would call them the Xbox S and Xbox X. Not SX and SS.