The new Broly isn't even like that.
Hell, the new movie he has like 8 or 10 actual spoken lines, the rest is all screaming.
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Vic Mignogna Lawsuit |OT| Hold My Beard (Update: Appeal lost, Mignogna must pay attorney fees to defendants)
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The new Broly isn't even like that.
Hell, the new movie he has like 8 or 10 actual spoken lines, the rest is all screaming.
yup
https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Vic-Mignogna/
NCZ (Admin) said at 12:07 PM on Sat Jan 26 2019
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There's a movement called "KickVic" detailing a history of harassment/abuse/etc. It's kinda grisly. What gets me is that a lot of people have been mostly silent on it and Funi declined to talk to Polygon when asked for comment, but I saw Sean Schemmel has been liking a bunch of the outright allegations and we all know he has a history of taking stances when he has nothing to lose. I'm not gonna say much more than that but it kinda makes my stomach turn.
Interesting. Does that mean they'll find a replacement actor, kill off the character or pretend he disappeared somewhere (never to be seen again)?
Rooster Teeth kicked Vic along with a bunch of cons.
I think it's ensured that Funimation and a bunch of other studios will do the same at this point.
if that turned out true, just picture how much more deep shit dick Vic would be into....
Wonder who they'll get to be Broly now? Probably gonna need a new Jaco too.
Most likely replace Vic with a new voice actor.
That'd be neat if it's not too late.
Funimation aren't strangers to tinkering with their dubs post release; they kept recasting characters and rerecording a swathe of lines for the 1999 dub til around 2007; there's what happened with Eva 3.33; and that one scene featuring TFS in Buu Kai.
Even if they do nothing about the theatrical cut, maybe there'll be an extended cut for the home release that they'll have to dub new lines for, à la Battle of Gods.
If any domino was going to be the first to fall for Vic, it would have been Rooster Teeth. Vic's a D-Lister (F-Lister now?) who's acting career was going nowhere fast (Especially in relation to his contemporaries like Troy Baker), while Rooster Teeth is rubbing elbows with Hollywood and SAG-AFTRA now - Both of which have established precedents on not tolerating behavior like Vic's.
The big question will be if Funimation and other Anime-dubbing companies cut him or not. Funi's run by a Fundie and has consistently "No Comment"ed and pretended nothing happened every time a credible allegation against Vic came out in the past decade.
The big question will be if Funimation and other Anime-dubbing companies cut him or not. Funi's run by a Fundie and has consistently "No Comment"ed and pretended nothing happened every time a credible allegation against Vic came out in the past decade.
Funi most likely will. They put out a progressive image and are owned by Sony now, on top of that Fukanaga stepped down.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2019-02-04/.142964
Basically, Vic used to be an asset, so everyone put up with his shit. Now that he's become a liability? He's done. Expect Funimation to cut him.
They said it wouldn't affect the creative direction of RWBY, so most likely recast.
iirc Funi doesn't even have FMA anymore, the rights lapsed back to Aniplex or something.
That might not have affected the full series though.
Really hope SEGA/Studiopolis drops him, never really liked him as Omega in the Sonic games, who is in the upcoming Team Sonic Racing.
I would guess slim to none.
This isn't a "kill it with fire" situation. Viz almost certainly knew what Vic Mignogna was like before they hired him, and now that everyone else knows, Viz is slowly backing away, acting shocked, and trying to distance themselves from the situation. It's easy enough for them to fire and replace him. It's not so easy to scrub him from their history.
The male lead on Highschool DXD got arrested for child porn. Funimation delayed season 3, and eventually released it with a new actor replacing him. But they're still selling seasons 1&2, starring a convicted pedophile. Because it's too much cost and effort to edit him out of things that are already done and out there.
If Viz replaces Vic with a new actor going forward, there's a chance that the studio and the new actor might re-record all of Vic's old lines, and then there's a chance that the new recordings might appear in some future release of the series (like on 4K or something), but by that point most of the heat will have died down and the issue will have mostly blown over (unless some new stuff comes to light, like it's discovered that Vic's fanclub is an underage sex cult or something like that), so Viz has no real reason to make that happen.
Yeah I can kind of see Vic airing out the personal details of a 16 year old girl in a creepy fashion.
If I thought someone was falsely accusing me of assault I'd probably not care about what they think about private conversations being posted online, but there's a time and place for things and that time and place is NOT publicly and now of all times, for fuck's sake
This is hardly surprising. I used to work and am still close with people that run cons Vic frequents. Without going into too much detail, Vic's behavior is an open secret. Day one working, I was warned about how he behaves and how his handler wants you to behave and how petty he is about being outclassed by other talent (i.e. he wants to be treated the same as Troy Baker or Steve Blum if they were also there). More than a creeper he's a diva, but I've got friends I worked with that could sing like a canary about the suspect shit he's done at autographs and in general. At the same time he seems like a chill guy with a diva complex but literally the moment you have to staff autographs, you notice creepy shit when pictures happen. Like him slowly working his hand down the back of a underage girl or the way he looks at his female fans vs his male fans. and honestly if you've worked a con even as general staff you know there is so much other shit going on you don't have time to worry about Vic's hand placement when the attendee isn't complaining. And I will say at least at our cons he's gotten better and I'd thought he'd mellowed out a bit.
The other thing, particularly for smaller cons, even with open secret creepy shit in some places you need him. He's a relatively cheap guest with a built in fan base. Vic is guaranteed to bring people to your con off of FMA alone. And for cons struggling to get to or past 5000 attendance I'd say he's a great value. Fuck him though, glad people finally got fed up with his shit.
The other thing, particularly for smaller cons, even with open secret creepy shit in some places you need him. He's a relatively cheap guest with a built in fan base. Vic is guaranteed to bring people to your con off of FMA alone. And for cons struggling to get to or past 5000 attendance I'd say he's a great value. Fuck him though, glad people finally got fed up with his shit.
Bye.
Hahaha
Indeed.
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Through all of this I got to learn Monica Rial is pretty savage.
Well damn, that definitely explains why Cons put up with his antics for so long.
The fan club stuff is just perplexing though. He played Edward and Takagi like 10 years ago. I could at least understand it if he was consistently landing leading roles in anime, but the majority of his casting over the years have been supporting characters.
It's probably a combination of the fact that he's famous for playing one of the most beloved protagonists in anime and he also is for a lack of a better term is more 'social' than other famous voice actors with his fans, it's kind of like how some of the biggest youtubers act like they're your bud on screen, but really they don't give a shit about you
More major VAs speaking up. Funimation won't be able to keep quiet for much longer.
Justin Briner, VA of Deku from My Hero Academia.
Amanda Lee, VA of Junko from Zombie Land Saga.
J Michael Tatum, VA of Okabe from Steins;Gate.
Dawn M. Bennett, VA of Kale in Dragon Ball Super.
Tons more if you check Monica Rial's Twitter.
Justin Briner, VA of Deku from My Hero Academia.
Amanda Lee, VA of Junko from Zombie Land Saga.
J Michael Tatum, VA of Okabe from Steins;Gate.
Dawn M. Bennett, VA of Kale in Dragon Ball Super.
Tons more if you check Monica Rial's Twitter.
He appears to cater to it specifically. Like people keep saying, it turns out a lot of the members of his fan club are underage girls. He's an attractive dude, which isn't always as common in voice acting, and makes himself open and approachable to an incredibly inappropriate and creepy degree, even all the touching aside. He talks with the girls, flirts with the girls, interacts with them directly. It feels borderline like grooming behaviors, especially with how he utilizes them to defend him against criticism.
People in the twitter thread by Neil mentioned that Vic always shows up late to most panels, so that he can make an entrance. I'm sure being seemingly chill and fun guy who causes a scene at cons and behaves like a great big kid has its appeal, especially if a lot of your target demo skews younger.
Point being: people aren't necessarily just fans for his body of work, but for his very deliberately cultivated persona that he uses to target younger women because they are a marketing opportunity and also because he's a huge creep who likes excuses to be near and touch young women.
I've said it a bunch, but Funimation is likely just waiting till Broly is done with its theatrical run in the US to say anything. This is the last week as far as I'm aware.
Considering some of the stories, it sounds like it's outright grooming.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/RWBY/comments/an8t2c/effective_today_vic_mignogna_is_no_longer_a_part/
"sigh"....this isn't going over well with the RWBY Community but in my honest opinion Vic being fired from RWBY was justified
"sigh"....this isn't going over well with the RWBY Community but in my honest opinion Vic being fired from RWBY was justified
There's a doc being compiled I found on that reddit thread. Most of the top comments seem supportive of the decision. Sort by controversial to get the trash.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lVWMh40jSWsQaqKXvTsb4IFhUQ4mHZhT6S7Ywk9tV-o/mobilebasic
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lVWMh40jSWsQaqKXvTsb4IFhUQ4mHZhT6S7Ywk9tV-o/mobilebasic
Wondering, what do you think of pepole's stances that he is innocent until he is proven guilty in a court of law.
https://twitter.com/Raymond_McNeil/status/1092608019245027328
https://twitter.com/Raymond_McNeil/status/1092608019245027328
Reading through it, most of the posts are along the lines of "Good on RT" "This kind of sucks, cause I like Qrow, but they made the right choice" "Ugh, I'm pissed about this whole situation, but RT did what they had to, I guess" and then there's the people at the bottom who think RT is a court of law, and Vic is owed a job.
As I said, RT isn't a court of law, and Vic isn't owed a job with them. Texas is an at-will state, and they can fire him for any reason they want that isn't prohibited by law. And unless you're in alabama, being a sexual predator isn't protected by law. It's just voice acting work. If the allegations are false, then he's lost out on one, probably minor, role at RT. If they're true, that just gives RT tons of bad press, and then they'd have to dump him anyways, and they get literally nothing by sticking with him now. I mean, they *might've* waited a little longer if the season was still on going and he hadn't finished his voice work, but since the season's over, I think it's best for them to dump him now.
D.C. Douglas tweeted.
https://twitter.com/DC_Douglas/status/1090727974653972480
He talked about hesitation posting about it, with one of the reasons is people might start "making claims about him."
Then, this was shared on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/LLawliet901/status/1092319499448209410
D.C. Douglas was in a stall in a woman's restroom and recorded a video, where you hear the woman in the next stall using it, and posted it to his twitter. The user who posted this tweet about also says Douglas has now blocked him.
I loved Douglas as Wesker, but fuck this shit. Gross as fuck, Douglas.
https://twitter.com/DC_Douglas/status/1090727974653972480
He talked about hesitation posting about it, with one of the reasons is people might start "making claims about him."
Then, this was shared on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/LLawliet901/status/1092319499448209410
D.C. Douglas was in a stall in a woman's restroom and recorded a video, where you hear the woman in the next stall using it, and posted it to his twitter. The user who posted this tweet about also says Douglas has now blocked him.
I loved Douglas as Wesker, but fuck this shit. Gross as fuck, Douglas.
No one is innocent until proven guilty. If you are proven guilty, then you were always guilty.
People who take the stance of "no one should judge him or do anything until he's convicted" are either defenders trying to use it as a way to shut down the people speaking out, or even worse egotists who just want to feel superior on Twitter, even if it comes at the cost of hurting a lot of people. The latter are especially upsetting as it's clear they don't actually care about the situation, as the outcome doesn't matter to them, and are just using it to add to their own personal narrative of who they are and how clever they are for not following the masses.
It's also just bullshit on a basic level. A court of law is not the only way people are allowed to form opinions on someone. The only way you can argue it should be in any given situation is if you're so detached from that situation that you can't even link it to the normal way human interaction works, at which point, said person is not in a position to give a worthwhile comment.
It isn't borderline, it's textbook. He makes them feel special, puts them on a pedestal, creates an exclusive group in which his very being is worshiped and any doubters are tossed out, and calls on them to be his army when faced with opposition. Not to mention how his discord gives him unlimited access to hundreds of potential victims in which he can speak to privately. "Don't tell anyone...Keep it our secret..." and it's not the first time. ANN reported on that.
And the Rangers? Textbook definition of cult. Complete with dragging anyone who dares speak out. This is all over twitter too.
It boils me up to know so many people are pulling "innocent until proven guilty" as a platform for neutrality. This isn't the time to be selectively neutral; the whole reason this trashfire has gotten away with this for so long is because he's faced little if any opposition. No one was willing to ruin their career by speaking up against Funimation's golden boy and anyone who did speak out was silenced by his personal army. Happened to /CGL/ and I'll be damned if it happens again in the open net.
I was linked recently to something called the BITE Model, which is sort of a quick gauge to see if what you're dealing with is really some sick form of thought control, such as that of a cult. BITE stands for Behavior, Information, Thought, and Emotional control.
I'll link here for the full BITE model, but...
https://freedomofmind.com/bite-model/
While not necessarily everything under every category matches up, I was really shocked by the fact that nearly every single list in the Information model checks off.
- Deliberately withhold and distort information
- Forbid you from speaking with ex-members and critics
- Discourage access to non-cult sources of information
- Divide information into Insider vs. Outsider doctrine
- Generate and use propaganda extensively
- Use information gained in confession sessions against you
- Gaslight to make you doubt your own memory
- Require you to report thoughts, feelings, & activities to superiors
- Encourage you to spy and report on others' "misconduct"
The Risembool Rangers have absolutely kept information behind a wall. You have to jump through hoops to join their ranks, like joining their Yahoo! group just to get into the private Discord, and we've recently seen them start to lock down videos and information about Vic's convention appearances. In the past, they've privatized other videos that make Vic's behavior look kinda damning.
They're only finally just now trying to instruct their members to stop "talking to the trolls". Otherwise, they'll go on the attack of anyone who doesn't equally think Vic is God's gift to the Earth.
Victims and colleagues are not reliable sources of information, and Vic saying he's innocent is proof enough to them that he's innocent.
Some people who've dealt with the Rangers or are ex-Rangers themselves have alleged that the Rangers will do any number of controlling things, with one story telling that when someone scribbled a mustache on a picture of Vic in a program guide, the Rangers reported it back to Vic who then hit them up on AOL Instant Messenger, and the girls demanded that this person fess up that they did it because it would be easier in the long run. Another story says that the group was making fun of people with dyslexia, and when a dyslexic girl spoke up about it, they reprimanded her and nearly kicked her from the group entirely for being difficult.
The group has made recruitment videos, all with montages of Vic interacting with the group, with frequent uses of the terms Fuhrer and Great Leader used to describe Vic.
I've personally been the victim of the Rangers trying to keep an eye directly on me, with them saying, "I saw what you said, and I took a screenshot of it, and now I'm gonna E-mail it to Vic! Now you're gonna be sorry!" Vic has on multiple occasions encouraged his girls to fight for his honor on the Internet, as recently as this whole event brewing this month, and even his mom has encouraged the girls to send her E-mails about anything they find on the Internet.
Basically, these are the beginnings of something I would absolutely categorize as a cult. The Behavior, Thought, and Emotional Control sections are a little harder for me to verify as an outsider, but the Information category felt really, really damning.
Really, with these sorts of things, even some genuine capital-C Cults probably don't tick every single box, especially given that their Dear Leaders are often probably less vulnerable than Vic. They are absolutely a cult.
Okay, even if taken ironically, this is too much
Someone mentioned that it's possible at this point that the RR are a sex cult. I'm starting to believe that it's possible.
These days I'd be more surprised to find men who don't have skeletons in their closet. The horror stories coming out of conventions lately are especially bad - you go there to show your appreciation for work you enjoy, not to be groped by the people you admire.
Friendly reminder that being a piece of shit isn't gender exclusive.
Yup. Most have to actually see it to understand it. He loves to walk by the line leading to his stuff late so the "fans" can see him and get hype. He also loves to be out and be seen being "one of us" getting food and stuff even though you know we (as in the con) are paying literally for any stuff he wants so he doesn't have to get harassed being out and about. He also insists on using the hotel gym at the con for obvious reasons. Not to mention the things I've over heard in such as "this is my 6th time seeing Vic I hope he remembers me! He's hugged me everytime" and other similar stuff. He's also one of the only guests I recall selling headshots and making a good bit of profit. Again men don't get treated the same at all. Anyone there with Broly stuff or even Soul Eater stuff get that fake air hug shit half the time with pictures. I'm just so glad its out there now. Con staff aren't allowed to talk about this shit or really question the guests due to the con being afraid we might offend them and they won't comeback which as I said would kill certain cons.
Surprised to see no mention of the fact that Vic was fired from Rooster Teeth (he voices Crow on RWBY).