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Just crazy how so many people, including supposed liberals, lap this shit up. Fall for overblown crime stories and copganda shit hook, line, and sinker. And illogical lies from massive corps. Every time.
Forgive me, but where do you get the impression that anyone other than the right fall for this?Just crazy how so many people, including supposed liberals, lap this shit up. Fall for overblown crime stories and copganda shit hook, line, and sinker. And illogical lies from massive corps. Every time.
How do you think NYC elected a cop as mayor?Forgive me, but where do you get the impression that anyone other than the right fall for this?
Yeah. Locking shit up like this AND understaffing is the worst fucking thing right now. Just imagine trying to wait 15 minutes at a Walmart to get baby formula while the kid is crying in the car with the mom. FUN FUCKING TIMES. FUN FUCKING TIMES.My local Walgreens has about 75% of the entire store locked up. In order to shop there you need to have someone follow you around to open the cabinets. And there are usually just two people working.
I can't imagine anyone actually putting up with that and shopping there. I was surprised it was still in business.
Forgive me, but where do you get the impression that anyone other than the right fall for this?
Maybe they're suggesting this forum is right winged?Are you serious...? If so, this very fucking forum! The thread on Walmart shoplifting like a fortnight ago was exhausting.
And it's always San Francisco. It's to shoplifting what Chicago is to shootings.
If shoplifting is so devastating and California law is to blame, why is there not a blip about the problem in Los Angeles, San Diego, or Sacramento?
The problem exists, but the fact that all the voices are only using one city to illustrate the issue should ring some warning bells.
I think I must've missed that. It rings a bell but I don't remember people handwringing about a corporation losing money in America. That's kind of surprising, but I'll take your word for it. Oh and fuck Walgreens.Are you serious...? If so, this very fucking forum! The thread on Walmart shoplifting like a fortnight ago was exhausting.
Lolol. This forum right winged. Yes, good guess.
It makes more sense than your other alternative...
Comparatively speaking, this is a pretty progressive place. If there are rightwing sentiments here (and there are on occasion), they generally get dogpiled on pretty summarily. Maybe I have blinders on? I just can't see the majority of Era having sympathy for corporations like you're implying they do.It makes more sense than your other alternative...
And this forum has tons of rightwing sentiment under the surface. You barely have to scratch.
So then what would you consider progressive if not the popular ideals that are pushed here? Ban bigots, anti-fascist, anti-capitalist, pro-climate, pro-human rights...This place is barely progressive; it just bans open bigotry. That's why it's so funny when people call this place far left or whatever bullshit.
Yeah. Locking shit up like this AND understaffing is the worst fucking thing right now. Just imagine trying to wait 15 minutes at a Walmart to get baby formula while the kid is crying in the car with the mom. FUN FUCKING TIMES. FUN FUCKING TIMES.
So then what would you consider progressive if not the popular ideals that are pushed here? Ban bigots, anti-fascist, anti-capitalist, pro-climate, pro-human rights...
It's progressive on cultural issues it's absolutely not on economics. It's firmly neoliberal consensus which makes sense, it's people fighting for their class interests (lots of tech industry upper middle class)Comparatively speaking, this is a pretty progressive place. If there are rightwing sentiments here (and there are on occasion), they generally get dogpiled on pretty summarily. Maybe I have blinders on? I just can't see the majority of Era having sympathy for corporations like you're implying they do.
This place is barely progressive; it just bans open bigotry. That's why it's so funny when people call this place far left or whatever bullshit.
Having direct sympathy for corporations is not the same as slurping up and regurgitating corporate propaganda. You do not need any sympathy to do the latter, and the latter is widespread.
This is a big part of why Chesa Boudin, the progressive DA in SF lost his recall election. Because SF isn't that progressive aside from LGTBQ+ inclusivity.Forgive me, but where do you get the impression that anyone other than the right fall for this?
Surely this is a joke post?
As someone living in a country most US politicians would call a socialist state this forum as a whole is miles more to the left than the most leftist party in the country.
This is a big part of why Chesa Boudin, the progressive DA in SF lost his recall election. Because SF isn't that progressive aside from LGTBQ+ inclusivity.
If you're not shaming others for not being leftist enough by some hidden standard you refuse to explain, are you even a leftist, bro?
It's progressive on cultural issues it's absolutely not on economics.
As someone living in a country most US politicians would call a socialist state this forum as a whole is miles more to the left than the most leftist party in the country.
In my opinion its the chicken vs egg problem if that make sense. The erosion of social safety nets, union power in the US, the "war on drugs" that decimated communities (particularly POCs), the culture shift of "bootstraps and if you are poor it's your fault" among other things created the situation we have today.While the media is absolutely to blame for overblowing constant shit towards cities like SF, LA, NYC, Minneapolis, Seattle, and Portland which infects middle Americas perception of how they are run - you can't ignore the residents of such cities also voting against (or growing against) progressive policy (see Eric Adams in NYC, Chesa Boudin in SF, Caruso in LA, last years Governor race in Oregon). It's important to not hand wave away why the residents within the cities themselves are perceiving/experiencing increased problems.
The US hates Black people.Forgive me, but where do you get the impression that anyone other than the right fall for this?
There wasn't a problem. The news kept showing thefts by homeless black people and created one. It allowed evil corporations like Walgreens to close stores to increase profit margins while ignoring their wage theft. Walgreens closed a store on Ocean Avenue citing theft.So they closed 5 stores that had a shoplifting problem and now shoplifting has decreased? Sounds like they solved the problem to me.
look, all shops have some theft. Walgreens had a pre-existing plan (called their "store optimization program") to close hundreds of stores nationwide because they had overextended themselves, and then hit upon a made up "organized retail crime" story to justify it and not take the heat for closing neighborhood pharmacies that people in the neighborhood depended on.So they closed 5 stores that had a shoplifting problem and now shoplifting has decreased? Sounds like they solved the problem to me.
Forgive me, but where do you get the impression that anyone other than the right fall for this?
Wouldn't that inherently make those cities not liberal? I mean I guess you can be liberal in some ways and conservative in others. So, I see your point.All these liberal cities voting in "tough on crime" lawmakers and anti-bail reform attorneys.
Wouldn't that inherently make those cities not liberal? I mean I guess you can be liberal in some ways and conservative in others. So, I see your point.
Walgreens is an awful place to shop locked up or not. Everything is overpriced to hell and there's barely any people ever working. The self checkout helps a bunch but there's still the pricing problem.My local Walgreens has about 75% of the entire store locked up. In order to shop there you need to have someone follow you around to open the cabinets. And there are usually just two people working.
I can't imagine anyone actually putting up with that and shopping there. I was surprised it was still in business.
Wouldn't that inherently make those cities not liberal? I mean I guess you can be liberal in some ways and conservative in others. So, I see your point.
Genuine question, what would you call a liberal who took a "lax on crime" stance then? Still a liberal, or is there a different name for that?Liberals and Conservatives largely agree on what "tough on crime" looks like. There isn't much difference.