Reminder that the wealthy have no loyalty to anything so long as the can access their wealth. They are by definition an adversary.
Wall Street Democratic donors warn the party: We’ll sit out, or back Trump, if you nominate Elizabeth Warren
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The problem they don't seem to realize that they have is that despite their disproportionate wealth, their votes count the same as the rest of ours.
Yeah they backed Clinton because she picked an empty suit like Tim Kaine instead of Elizabeth Warren:
The best result of this is if a massive number of individual donors contribute the same or more than these giant donors do. That would go a long way to showing these interests don't need to be coddled.
So, make sure to donate.
So, make sure to donate.
Because she had very little support and was a useful cudgel against Sanders, whereas now she is approximately tied with Bernie and appears to have more room to grow.
Fine. Hopefully she won't need your money. Things change and you give a little or we end up killing you motherfuckers, which would you rather have?
My point with Clinton was that Wall Street backed her over Trump, but Trump is president. Wall Street also backed Romney in 2012, but Obama won.
ALso I don't think Clinton was ever going to pick Elizbeth Warren in 2016. Warren and Clinton were both North East liberals, and Clinton desperately needed to appeal more to the heartland -- Where Trump won the election. Of course, Kaine probably wasn't the right pick from that perspective either :D
But in any event, the backing of some wall street donors is not as important as Wall Street likes to think.
There has been a massive stripping of federal regulatory powers, consumer protections, worker protections, etc. Trump fascism has paid off in pure political power alone. And with climate change adding apocalyptic pressures over the already catastrophic sociopolitical crises across the globe, we can expect to see a rise in oppression, fascism, capitalist constriction of power, etc. Life is going to get harder for poor and marginalized people, and it's not going to get better until we start walking away from capitalism and working for our mutual wellbeing instead. Wall Street knows this, and their profit forecasts align them with neoliberalism and fascism.
These are the new poles we're working with under the current global context. Right now those poles might seem extreme, but look at how far things are already sliding.
We need to all be taking deep and drastic action to take care of each other immediately. Build local food systems and share food with your neighbors, start housing cooperatives, childcare collectives, etc. Build infrastructure of support and solidarity, build community relationships and resilience.
Thankfully there's been a lot of amazing innovation coming together on the grassroots, neighborhood, city, regional, academic and scientific levels. I've heard disaster preparedness experts, indigenous farmers, black power activists, and public health scholars, and urban planners all say the same thing: grow food locally, get to know your neighbors, and prepare for a difficult future.
I think as things get more dire and people get more organized, we'll see grassroots organizing driving local policy more and more -- or there will be riots, and/or we'll be baited into being slaves via capitalism and fascism.
Anyways, the point of my rant is this: shit is bad and by necessity things are getting much more polarized. We're seeing the beginning of that now with Trump making fascism mainstream and progressives winning elections, polling more and more viably, and putting forward proactive initiatives. We see it too on the political margins.
Again: Wall Street knows all this. And they're not willing to endorse any candidate that threatens their growing power. They want to protect the new status quo at all costs.
She's not tied with Bernie, she's significantly ahead. Bernie is over.
I know this is not a popular opinion, but I just don't think Warren can beat Trump. Biden has a better chance and I don't like him either. Trump can do so much more damage in the next 4 years. It will make these first 4 look like a warmup. Trump has to go no matter what.
I'm worried we get another 2016 in 2020.
I'm worried we get another 2016 in 2020.
Not only is he going to finish his term. He is going to claim that the Senate fully exonerated him. It will form his reelection campaign.
Polls do not bear this out in aggregate. There are some where she is ahead, some where he is ahead. It does look like she has more momentum, but it's hardly decided, especially given Bernie is explicitly targeting non-voters who might be poorly-captured by likely voter models.
That said, lol at the weird gloating tone of this post. I wouldn't be so snide about my candidate if he were as bad on foreign policy, the thing the President has the most unilateral control over, as Warren is in comparison to Bernie.
It's okay to be afraid.
Turn that fear into action instead of paralysis and fearmongering, though.
ain't happening. He's quickly becoming political poison and republicans will act the mighty and start turning on him in no time. Watch.
First... there was the collapse of common sense... stupidity... racism... ignorance...
Then... when it seemed like shit couldn't get anymore fucked up... we got William Barr... the living corruption... blatantly parading around the whole country...
Then the rumours started... The last hardcore democrats were working on a cure... that would end the corruption...
Why?
I like the misconduct... I like the corruption...
I LIKE THIS WOOOOOOOOORRRRRRLD
Then... when it seemed like shit couldn't get anymore fucked up... we got William Barr... the living corruption... blatantly parading around the whole country...
Then the rumours started... The last hardcore democrats were working on a cure... that would end the corruption...
Why?
I like the misconduct... I like the corruption...
I LIKE THIS WOOOOOOOOORRRRRRLD
Those guys are unfortunately Democrats too. Democrats are not a leftist party but just has a leftish contingent within it.
It's early enough that declaring any of the big fish over is just tempting fate. But yes, it does currently look like Bernie's outta gas.
He's probably upset that the ramifications of a Warren administration means he'll have to postpone buying another yacht
He cares about money more than he does for other people. Pretty straightforward. Money speaks for money.
This is too one sided. Plenty of rich people donate to the Democratic Party in order to keep it under their control as well. They're both pro-big business parties.
Yup. Garbage people playing into, and taking advantage of, garbage political economics.
If Biden can't beat Warren than he certainly can't beat Trump. This "only Biden can do it" shit is a self fulfilling prophecy.
