Yes, the pacing and general format of Sony's E3 2018 conference was poor and deservedly panned. Keep it simple, don't over-complicate things.
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We had more than 6 hours worth of E3 conferences in 3 days... and only 3 gameplay demos were shown during all 5 shows
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Who wants long gameplay demos in shows? Are we still in 2006. Presentations have announcements the gameplay demos come after like what Xbox/Nintendo do after the show. If not you just get bloated gameplay shows that are slog, ie sony show last year.
This E3 fucking sucks. The most exciting part was when I got the hot dog from the cart across from my building.
Let's be honest, pretty much all gameplay demos are scripted and rehearsed to within an inch of its life in a highly polished vertical slice of the game that famously in the case of something like the original Watch Dogs isn't even indicative of how the game will actually turn out. Every time i see a gameplay demo where they are walking slowly and panning the camera around i think "No one plays games like that, why aren't you sprinting constantly?" Watch Dogs 3 had a gameplay segment but i'm sure i saw the phrase "Edited for time" spliced in there (unless im thinking of another game) so that wasn't even a proper representation. Some games like Ori for instance were using gameplay footage, it just wasn't an uninterrupted segment
I guess everyone saw the insane response Death Stranding has gotten by constantly pumping out trailer after trailer with no actual gameplay footage or even an idea of how it plays and thought "Hey, we can do that too".
I guess everyone saw the insane response Death Stranding has gotten by constantly pumping out trailer after trailer with no actual gameplay footage or even an idea of how it plays and thought "Hey, we can do that too".
I'm so glad I skipped this year's show for the first time in a decade. Y'all really sat through 6 hours worth of trailers you could watch on YT and leaked announcements like Game Pass and not even specs of the Scarlet, literally "it'll run in 8K 144fps". Anyone who gave 6 hours for this...you could have spent that time actually playing a fun game.
I mean when the alternative is a CGI trailer, I think most people would rather watch gameplay. I mean do you even know what some of these games that are supposedly coming out in "March 2020" look like outside of the CGI?
If the Doom Eternal gameplay doesn't count I dunno why FF7R and WD:L get to count as gameplay demos. Doom Eternal actually showed several minutes of continuous gameplay unlike the other two.
I will also say I really liked what FF7R and WD:L did. Condensing down their 10-15 minute demo into a 3-5 minute gameplay montage with an explanation of how things work was brilliant.
I will also say I really liked what FF7R and WD:L did. Condensing down their 10-15 minute demo into a 3-5 minute gameplay montage with an explanation of how things work was brilliant.
There's a distinction between 'brief clips of gameplay' and 'a period where we can actually watch some take place and see how it all hangs together'
I only watched bits of Inside Xbox, but I wonder if they went deeper there for some bits? I wonder if that's the future model people are aiming for, a bit like Nintendo have had some success with in recent years; conferences for announcements, follow-up shows for deeper dives.
Looks like IGN will have an Avengers preview later this week, which should have some footage.
Gears 5 Escape footage is out now.
Cyberpunk apparently will be played for journos this week too, so there's a good chance we'll see pre-played footage this week too.
The E3 show hasn't really started yet!
The rest I would love to see footage for (Ghostwire is totally up my alley), but we don't even have dates for Deathloop and Ghostwire, with a good chance of them being next-gen. I think some devs are being cautious with potential next-gen footage so we don't get a "Watch Dogs 1" situation again, as I doubt that any console specs are finalised yet.
Triple-As often debut with CGI stuff but nearly all indies we saw were actual gameplay, even if bits and pieces and not uncut.
Sometimes the numbers and odds add up to where a lot of games are in development but none of them are quite ready. It's an unfortunate possibility but it happens. That's why I like the Treehouse at least, because it's almost all gameplay.
The real kicker is not showing gameplay of games that are clearly coming out soon, which is more worrisome. How does FF7 have more gameplay shown than like...every other title when it's not coming out til March of next year? Weird.
The real kicker is not showing gameplay of games that are clearly coming out soon, which is more worrisome. How does FF7 have more gameplay shown than like...every other title when it's not coming out til March of next year? Weird.
I haven't even watched any of the conferences. No point anymore. They're just trailers with some blabla. Just see the trailers you think are interesting afterwards.
I feel like it must still be a big secret that pretty much every major publisher attending E3 has hours of gameplay demos in livestreams and press events after the conference ends.
Do you all just close the conference stream and then unplug your routers to make sure that no more news or footage has any chance of accidentally penetrating your screen?
Do you all just close the conference stream and then unplug your routers to make sure that no more news or footage has any chance of accidentally penetrating your screen?
Sure it sucks but I prefer that over fake gameplay. If they are not ready to show gameplay then that's ok. Because the same people complaining about no gameplay will be the ones complaining about gowngrade on release. After Anthem I think companies are reluctant on showing their games too early.
These gigs are generally for the Press and industry professionals right? Perhaps these groups aren't so demanding as well are. Disclaimer: I was disappointed to - I still remember the awesome Halo 2 trailer and how much it rocked my world
i honestly think it's just due to awkward timing (end of one gen start of a new one) and developers/publisher being absolutely shit scared of being involved in a downgrade controversy. demoing games early only really serves to hurt a title, because god forbid the developers move a fucking puddle. i can't say i blame them.
You skipped watching a large game event solely for the purpose of being able to gloat about it, for whatever reason, on a gaming forum?...
ResetERA.
Do you really believe this? Take Gears 5 for instance. The game releases in Sept and they opted to show gameplay at a panel today instead of during their presser.
The complaint is that the gameplay didn't happen DURING the presser here...
Because that's what matters the most. The exact time the gameplay is shown. Not the actual existence of gameplay...
Yes i do. You just have to look at spiderman last year.
These people crunch to get a demo done in time and ERA (aswell as others) shitpost about a dumb puddle.
Why would you still spent time on the demo and the fallout instead of waiting for the final product?
Also if Gears has gameplay why are people crying about it?
Yes, it's our fault for complaining about false advertising.
File this into the "yet another thing that if it happened in any other business sector the company would have been fined/sued but because it's a videogame instead, somehow, it's the consumer fault" folder.
That ghost of Tsushima demo is more memorable than anything from Microsoft's stage this year outside of Keanu Reeves.......good gameplay makes lasting impressions. Look at how many talk about the last of us demo they showed.
If they had shown Halo: infinite gameplay this year I bet a lot would be talking about it. But the spotlight will be on watch dogs, and FFVII
you think this is it. With next Gen coming i promise you this, all they will do is show you tech demos as astual gameplay at next year's E3. BOOK IT!
e3 was soooo bad this year, even the games that'll release in less than a year didnt show gameplay.
Yep. It also shows how Sony and Nintendo have basically carried E3 the last few years.
I think in general crunching to get a one off demo done is silly. I hope it goes away.
There were a lot more eyes at Microsoft's presser than a random panel.