We will ever have 2D games look as good as on the Saturn?
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Not to play Debbie Downer here but, in my opinion, Guardian Heroes is one of the ugliest and most unpleasing looking "2D" games ever and I do not understand why people are bringing it constantly up in discussions like this one in this thread.
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Eye of the beholder and all of that jaz, but i love the artsyle! :O Maybe i shouldn't have just said Saturn and included Neo Geo, PS1. Really that era of gaming in general games look so much appealing to me than whats comming out lately.
This.
The Saturn was dethroned some time ago as the 2D king of consoles IMO.
It could do essentially perfect Neo Geo ports (with loading times) with improved CD soundtracks. KOF97 on Saturn is the ultimate version apart from the loading, a Real Bout Special and Samurai Spirits IV are possibly the ultimate versions full stop due to the improved soundtracks. NGCD had the same soundtracks but longer loads and more frames cut.
And much more, including better than flawless CPS2 conversions like Zero 3. So yes it did, easily, in technology.
The Neo Geo came out 4 years before the Saturn tho so by then it was better
KOF97 in Saturn looks the part but the audio is muffled/overcompressed so it could fit the 1 MB RAM cart.
I doubt it could do games like Garou or Metal Slug 3 just because of RAM limits. CPS2 games were easier to port, by 1995 SNK was making games like Real Bout that wouldnt fit the CPS2 rom size limit.
But yeah, make a 16 MB RAM cart and you could even port SF3:3S to the Saturn.
*sees Astal listed as the first game OP chose to start off the thread*
*leaves thread in contentment*
*leaves thread in contentment*
ooh, love me some witch platformers! wishlisted.Mystik Belle
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Yasss! That's more like it! :) Fight N' Rage looks awesome!Some more 32-bit style 2d indie games
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Fight'N Rage
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Xmen: Children of the Atom
While that's a beautiful gif, but that's Marvel Super Heroes, not X-men COTA ;)
This 100%. It's worth celebrating the past, but worshipping it with blinders on is taking things too far.
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Oops my bad sorry lol
Different strokes i guess, but indie games these days don't look appealing to me like the games of the 90's. I'm definitely going to give these recs a shot though. :)
Cuphead
Rayman Legends
LIMBO
Ori and the Blind Forest
Dead Cells
Owlboy
Mark of the Ninja
The Messenger
Tembo the Badass Elephant
Westerado Double Barreled
Bastion
Transistor
We're in the golden age of 2D games. Saturn was great but it's nowhere NEAR what we have access to now.
This looks incredible. Instead of unique games like this, we get keep getting generic military shooters. I guess blame the people buying these games? Do we really need a new Call of Duty game every year? It sells, so I guess we do.
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Don't get me started on how Shooters have taken a leap back from it's hyper gameplay focused roots to that of sub par narrative blockbuster experiences. But that topic is for a separate thread.:x
So true. Back on topic, Cuphead to me, is one of the most visually exciting games created in the last few decades. I really love the hand drawn animation. I can't wait to see what they do next. I hope it's a new game in a similar style.
Thats why Saturn is my favorite Sega console. Most of the greats have been listed but I gotta rep Groove on fight too
and this
Tbh gifs and videos don't do these games justice, on a TV real time they look amazing.
There's sadly very few indies that come close to the arcade quality pixel art and animation fluidity of Saturn games. When you see them in all purity on a HDTV with a nice upscaler nothing looks better. I detest that fat pixel art movement so common in indies, with their overuse of modern filters and boring shiny effects like this:
and this
Tbh gifs and videos don't do these games justice, on a TV real time they look amazing.
There's sadly very few indies that come close to the arcade quality pixel art and animation fluidity of Saturn games. When you see them in all purity on a HDTV with a nice upscaler nothing looks better. I detest that fat pixel art movement so common in indies, with their overuse of modern filters and boring shiny effects like this:
This game is a visual mess especially when there is action on screen and doesn't come close to the Saturn style 32 bit graphics.Like Dead Cells?
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Thats why Saturn is my favorite Sega console. Most of the greats have been listed but I gotta rep Groove on fight too
and this
Tbh gifs and videos don't do these games justice, on a TV real time they look amazing.
There's sadly very few indies that come close to the arcade quality pixel art and animation fluidity of Saturn games. When you see them in all purity on a HDTV with a nice upscaler nothing looks better. I detest that fat pixel art movement so common in indies, with their overuse of modern filters and boring shiny effects like this:
This game is a visual mess especially when there is action on screen and doesn't come close to the Saturn style 32 bit graphics.
I'm glad I'm not the only one on this as seen with other posters. For awhile I thought I was just being crazy.
Thats why Saturn is my favorite Sega console. Most of the greats have been listed but I gotta rep Groove on fight too
and this
Tbh gifs and videos don't do these games justice, on a TV real time they look amazing.
There's sadly very few indies that come close to the arcade quality pixel art and animation fluidity of Saturn games. When you see them in all purity on a HDTV with a nice upscaler nothing looks better. I detest that fat pixel art movement so common in indies, with their overuse of modern filters and boring shiny effects like this:
This game is a visual mess especially when there is action on screen and doesn't come close to the Saturn style 32 bit graphics.
I was thinking more like Symphony of the Night but with a way higher color count.
Yes. Simon S. Andersen is such an amazing pixel artist.You should play owlboy
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I don't think military shooters deserve the blamed for the lack of games like this, is not like the studios that make shooters would be making these unique Japanese titles. I guess the more important question would be, how come the west seems to be making more throwback 2D games today than Japan is when traditional animation more alive there.
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Thank you and everyone else for doing Gods work here. lol
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You've got my curiosity. Is there some sort of app for VR that emulates CRT monitors or something? Link?
I always thought this in regards to GH. I am also in the boat that many if not every single one of those games have been surpassed, in many cases years ago.
https://twitter.com/zanrai_int?lang=en
I'm eagerly awaiting WESTGUNNE from this dev. The 2D sprite work and the animation looks remarkable. Most other 2D games I see just don't really cut it for me, my standard is high from growing up during the 2D era.
I'm eagerly awaiting WESTGUNNE from this dev. The 2D sprite work and the animation looks remarkable. Most other 2D games I see just don't really cut it for me, my standard is high from growing up during the 2D era.
We tried with Gunlord X for Switch, but it got unfortunately completely ignored by all big media sites including Nintendo themselves.
This looks cool.
Yep. there's a few standout apps that allow you to play on retro equipment:
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found the shmup I couldn't remember the name, it was Jetpack Squad (still not out):
One more to add
Q-YO Blaster
Ok. This looks awesome.