Only if they can get Drew Karpyshyn to come out of Mass Effect retirement..
This is absurd, Andromeda was shit because he wasn't involved, his trilogy set the benchmark which Andromeda failed to come anywhere near.
He NEEDS to come back for Mass Effect sake.
I want him to start anew and ignore Andromeda.
This would be much more interesting imo.
Opinion noted, but nothing I said was "absurd".
Oh stop. After the extended ending patch the overall community was quite at peace with the ending, and knee-jerk hyperbole is always found in the realm of hormonal teenagers who were the main proponents of the initial vitriol.How do you continue on it? Andromeda further soured people on the brand and 3 put them in a position to make Andromeda in the first place.
The brand is damaged. From a story perspective how does one even make a Mass Effect 4?
The Phantom Menace wasn't as bad as the end of Mass Effect 3's ending and all the broken promises it left in it's wake. Mass Effect 3's ending was the ultimate betrayal to the fanbase. I don't think I've ever seen another moment in my 30+ years of life where gamers completely united on their disgust with something and the pressure got so bad the developers literally tried to reform story aspects to appease them. You look at anything else and gaming and there are many people on opposing sides. You look at the ending to Mass Effect 3 and there was almost nobody in support of it.
The well was poisoned. Andromeda existed because they were effectively admitting we can't make a Mass Effect 4.
The ranking is literally this:
1>2>3>Andromeda
Herp derp, Bioware.
No game is created by one man, but it can be ruined by one man?+1
He pretty much ruined mass effect duo the ending (was solo effort by him and ignored writers)
If he is involved I'll stay away from it
And people who says he created mass effect. No game is *created* by 1 man
No game is created by one man, but it can be ruined by one man?
Okay.
I doubt they'd return to Shepard's story.Please Casey.. give us ME4, We heard Sheperd breathe... the Andromeda program was a sham, we all know the arc blew up before it reached the Andromeda galaxy.
I'm saying modern game development is too complex with too many moving parts for one man to be credited with all of anything.Yes. Are you saying creating and ruining are equally easy things?
Okay.
I'm saying modern game development is too complex with too many moving parts for one man to be credited with all of anything.
Not that hard to follow.
I disagreeExcept it takes far less bad things to ruin a good game than good things to save a bad game. Your logic wasn't hard to follow, it was just wrong. If the person in charge makes just a few bad decisions it can absolutely ruin something no matter how many moving parts there are, and the opposite is not true.
He fudged 10 minutes of a trilogy. You see what the game he wasn't involved with turned out like? My 5 year old can write dialogue better.
Eh I'm fine with ME3's ending. Think you're overreacting there.He fudged a lot more than 10 minutes, and Andromeda > ME3 (opinion, obv.).
Okay. :'(
No game is created by one man, but it can be ruined by one man?
Okay.
At this point I'm just hoping for a Mass Effect Trilogy Remaster before EA shuts down Bioware. Bioware seems to be betting everything on Anthem and I'm not sure people are in a receptive mood for a game that doesn't improve a lot upon Destiny and Division, and its really hard to see how Anthem won't make the exact same mistakes those two games did.
I think that the only way to salvage the series is to remake the trilogy and retcon some of the stuff in ME1 and ME2 and write a better ending for ME3, and improve the side quests of ME1 and ME3 while they're at it. That's the only way to fix the narrative problems in all the three games (third one in particular due to the endgame setup) and preserve the trilogy at the same time.I think the only way that they can salvage Mass Effect is to figure something out from that awful ending and make a real Mass Effect 4 with Shepard and co, or at least having it take place after the Reaper war in the actual galaxy.
It hurts because it's true.Will be interesting to see what direction they take the series in. Could be a clash of clans clone, could be a hero based shooter, could be a battle royale game... I guess it is wide open at this point and we'll just have to see what the latest fad is when they get around to destroying the series further.
And all for just $10 a month.
If u check the comments at the EA thread for anthem e3 reveal
90% it looks Generic/Boring/incoming flop/big pass/etc
5% wow jets! I can be iron man
5% they liked it
So yeah I hope they didn't bet everything on that game
During the Anthem stuff I couldn't help but wondering where the Bioware that made this has gone. Just depressing.
Eh I'm fine with ME3's ending. Think you're overreacting there.
You wouldn't eat the perfect cake if you found a worm inside it. Yes one person can ruin a game.
And this is beating a dead horse.
A huge part of the community was very loud and clear regarding Casey Hudson. The guy even left bioware for a while.
Bioware got hundreds of developers and many things were right in the game (music, gameplay etc) so I can't blame them for the piece of shit ending that we got, it was not artistic or good or anything and yes we can blame Casey for it because as I said it was solo thing done by him and he ignored the writers of the series. Heck he even lied in interviews saying the ending won't be A.B.C choices when if actually did at the end and saying all choices will matter at the end when it did not.
Mass effect 3 ending should be a lesson for developers and it's. The case was closed long time ago so no need to pretend as if I'm a minority here or anything.
If Casey gets involved in the next mass effect without restrictions a big part of the community won't be interested in the game
Me3 ending was not Casey soloing it. It was Casey and Walters.
Wasn't the Andromeda studio closed down after Andromeda "bombed"?Nah, even if Anthem bombs, it won't truly bomb. Even Andromeda sold millions and look at how people shat all over it (I enjoyed it tho).
Anthem bombing will still sell enough to where Bioware will still exist, which means we'll see at least one more Dragon Age and Mass Effect from them.
I think that the only way to salvage the series is to remake the trilogy and retcon some of the stuff in ME1 and ME2 and write a better ending for ME3, and improve the side quests of ME1 and ME3 while they're at it. That's the only way to fix the narrative problems in all the three games (third one in particular due to the endgame setup) and reserve the trilogy at the same time.
I think that there's need to continue Shep's story after defeating the Reapers, it makes since for him/her to retire for a looooong time.
That said, I sometimes thought that it would've been better if the choice between saving/killing clone Shep mattered in ME3's DLC, if you save him/her, then the real Shep could retire with whoever his romance option was in the good ending and clone Shep could star a spin-off game of their own with the Normandy crew (or maybe a new one?). I know the Citadel is supposed to be a light-hearted DLC (and I love it for being that) but it was just profoundly stupid how they introduced the clone stuff and never did anything of value with it.
+1
He pretty much ruined mass effect duo the ending (was solo effort by him and ignored writers)
If he is involved I'll stay away from it
And people who says he created mass effect. No game is *created* by 1 man
Wasn't the Andromeda studio closed down after Andromeda "bombed"?
Chilling with Origin, Bullfrog and the rest in the pits of EA hell.
That would be hard if EA takes them out back and "shoots" them like they do all their acquisitions.
Anthem better sell really well
That could work too, could be a fun alt reality spin-off/what-if scenario, especially if they go all in with the Indoctrination Theory, lol.I think that an alternate universe bad-ending spin off like XCOM 2 could work, were the reapers won and you're playing as Shepard amongst the last remnants of the Galaxy, trying to bring everyone back together for one last suicide mission.