Treasure Silvergun

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I don't think there's a single prejudice about Italy that is actually false, heh.

Yeah, the countryside isn't all as idyllic as some areas of Tuscany and there's a bunch of cities that are quite modern-looking and busy so not every town is like Venice or Florence, but pretty much everything else is true, at least to a degree.
 

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm in Vegas. So the reputation is obviously "Sin City".

But for residents, it's just another city. I've lived in a lot of places, and Vegas is better than most. Not as scary as Baltimore or DC. Not as crowded as CA. Not as spaghettified (street-wise) as many US cities.

It is hot as hell in the summer, though. But spring and fall are great. Winter is super mild.
 

Rad Bandolar

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Oct 25, 2017
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SoCal
California is not the Last Bastion of Liberal Hope as people tend to portray it, nor is it the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sodom as conservatives tend to lampoon it. It's essentially the US in microcosm, and just a bit ahead of the curve relative to the rest of the country.

I've extensively travelled the length and breadth of the state, got to know people all over. It's a wildly diverse place: economically, geographically, socially, and politically. But the key thing to understand is that California isn't a monolith. It's a place largely defined by agriculture, as well as the coastal elite.

You can travel for hours upon hours within this state and see only farmland. Once you leave the Bay Area or the LA regional sprawl, just about every square inch of arable land has some kind of crop growing on it. There's a whole northern third of the state that's farmland up to the foot of the mountains, and people are barely cognizant that it even exists. There's also a whole southern section of the state that's nothing but farmland to the Mexico border that people don't think much about, either. And of course, there's the Central Valley which everyone knows as the area between where they were and where they want to be.

That parts of the state that aren't arable are rugged, mountainous terrain and harsh, yet beautiful desert filled with a variety of interesting people. There are sights in this state that take your breath away, but the deserts are where I feel most at home. There are parts just a few miles away from any highway that are stone quiet, not even the sound of wind hitting your ears. You don't realize how much ambient noise is with you at all times until you're standing alone on the desert floor with billions of years of history on display before you and beautiful Quiet all around you.

Politically, the state is deceptively complex. What you see playing out on the national stage, especially with immigration, already happened in California 20 years ago. The Republicans shot their load on immigration, which turned out to be a self-inflicted wound from which they slowly bled out until they effectively died in the last couple of years. It turns out that when you vilify the family members of children, those kids grow up and remember it at the ballot box. Over the last 20 years, as the Republicans lost their bastions along the coast, the thin veneer of economic conservatism gave way and they doubled-down on the racism to appeal to an ever-shrinking base of white men in the suburbs and agricultural areas. At this point in 2019, the Republican party in California is a white nationalist group who can only find relevancy by getting specifically targeted items on the Proposition ballot, which are usually defeated.

What remains is an interesting political situation. Absent a viable opposition party, the Democratic party enjoys singular rule, which is usually a scenario ripe for overreach and inevitable backlash. That may yet come in the form of a formal party split, or even a renewed Republican party that's not just the political arm of the Klan, but for now we have a Democratic Party comprised of the core elements from the large cities, as well as those of the suburbs and many of the rural areas who've come along in more recent times.

The Democratic Party now encompasses the whole of mainstream political activity, as well as the socialist/progressive elements of the Left. The thing is, the interests that the Republicans used to represent are still there. The situations that lead to a conservative agenda still exist. There are people who don't want the state to get more crazy with taxes. There are those who want to ensure fiscal transparency and moderation in spending. There are homeowners. There are small business owners. There are large corporations -- Tech, Oil & Gas, and Agribusiness, to name a few. Those people used to be represented by Republicans in the state legislature, but are now largely represented by conservative Democrats.

This leads to a fairly complex interplay of competing interests within the same party. As Democratic representatives from the suburbs and rural areas gain influence and tenure, they may start caucusing together in a more formal way than they have so far. Corporate, business, and agricultural elements representing the rural parts of the state that have been politically ignored the last dozen years may ultimately find more influence in the Assembly & Senate than they did with the Republicans, simply due to intra-party tit-for-tat voting (i.e., "You support me on this, and I support you on that.").

As the new political reality began to emerge and express itself, Jerry Brown was actually pretty effective at walking the line between these various interests to serve as a moderating hand on the exuberance that single party rule tends to produce. But with him gone and Gavin Newsom in office, that may change. As the socialist Left gains more prominence and influence within the Party, they'll run right into the moderate and conservative Democrats, and something will have to give at some point. I don't know what will happen politically in the years to come, but we're in a moment of transition right now, dominated by ethnic and economic transformations & pressures that could play out in all different kinds of ways. But it's a safe bet that what's happening here (and our responses to it) will be a preview of what's to come at the national level 20 years from now.

At any rate, California is much more than the shorthand labels that liberals & conservatives outside the state pin on it. It's a fantastically interesting state filled with a wide variety of people and places that can't be easily pigeonholed or stereotyped.
 
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Kanann

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Not every street in Bangkok have market or dozen of street food vendors.

Only 90% of them.
 

chirt

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Oct 25, 2017
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Detroit. It's mostly neighborhoods. It's a lot of work to keep everything maintained and there are a lot of abandoned homes and empty lots. A lot of people used to live here.

I was in downtown Detroit last weekend, it's honestly a lovely city.
It was my first time there and I didn't know what to expect considering everyone thinks it's super dangerous. On the contrary, everyone was really nice, so much art just scattered around, cute little scooters you can zip around on, good food, etc...

I was there for the Movement music festival and I will 100% be back next year.
 

CorpseLight

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Nov 3, 2018
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Rhode Island -

No, its not an actual Island.

Yes, its an actual state. And we have pretty nice beaches.
 

Roy

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Oct 27, 2017
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Have no idea where the stereotype comes from that Québécois are jerks. They continually show that they're very friendly and accommodating.

One example: A few days ago I bumped into a group of acquaintances and they were all speaking French. When they realized I don't speak French, they all immediately switched to English so I wouldn't be left out 🙂
 
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Weirdly enough, I find people from New England to be pretty cool people. I knew a self-proclaimed Masshole...she was the nicest person I've ever met, LOL. No bullshit.

Also, people from Philly are some of the friendliest people I've ever met...they're not polite, and if you be a dick they will be dicks back, but if you are cool, they are cool as shit.
 

Pellaidh

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Oct 26, 2017
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As far as history goes, a lot of people seem convinced that Yugoslavia was part of the Soviet Union. While in truth, for most of its history, the country had pretty Rocky relations with the Soviets, and was in some ways closer to the west than to them.

Probably related to this, the former Yugoslavia countries aren't post apocalyptic wastelands like I've seen people online describe them. They're actually quite nice in a lot of ways.
 

Tebunker

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Oct 25, 2017
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I have seen many many people claim that Midwesterners are the nicest salt of the earth people in the US, and yet I have never found that to be true.

In fact I hate those kinds of stereotypes as I feel you can find a large amount of shit heels anywhere, and geographic location has nothing to do with how someone treats another person.

I could argue I saw more blatant racism and hatred towards minorities in the 6 years I lived in Ohio than I saw in 30 plus in Virginia. It doesn't mean it didn't exist in Virginia though. Shitty people live everywhere and I'd love to see us stop association of quality of people with geolocation.

Same can be said about "Southern Hospitality" etc etc.
 

Beef Supreme

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Oct 25, 2017
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Houston is becoming more and more pompous day after day. It's becoming worse than Dallas.

Dude, the reason I don't want any more people here is because it's becoming too populated. If there's anything that's FAR from a misconception, it's our traffic problem. It's quite the opposite of pompous here, actually. Most people find the people of Houston quite neighborly actually.

I'm just personally fed up with the misconception of this place being a "swamp". There's actually not a swamp within miles and the horrible heat and humidity are only around for about 3 months. Otherwise I love the weather here. And as I was merely pointing out in my last post, there are just as bad if not worst things in other states. We don't have whole cities burn down, houses sliding off a cliff when it rains, earthquakes, or shovel snow everyday for half the year. But hey, this place is bad because it's a "swamp". And I'm fine with that. Stay far away so you're not one of the many vehicles takin up I-10.

Oh and everything is true about Dallas. Fuck that place. ;)
 

John Rabbit

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think the perception of Phoenix is that it's the Dixie of the West (xenophobia, etc).

I live in Florida and, idk everyone here is just lazy or dishonest.
I would say the Phoenix-Metro area is a great example of what it means to be "purple" politically. I see just as many signs of increasing liberal views (in no small part to a growing Hispanic community) and attitudes in the area, as I do plenty of Trump shit on cars/in yards and in the rhetoric of our local and congressional representatives.

Thankfully I live in a liberal leaning area of Chandler and my immediate community is very diverse racially. I like my city a lot, but it's definitely not without it's fair share of MAGA idiots.
 

subpar spatula

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Oct 26, 2017
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Surrey, BC, it's like any other mediocre city in the world: got to drive places, transit is super, super average to not good, and there are potholes.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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"Everyone from LA is rude and shallow".

Most people I know in LA aren't from here, so a lot of people are bringing their rudeness and shallowness with them.

You might be able to argue that LA brings out the worst in them, but we can't take all the credit.
 

Mekanos

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California is not the Last Bastion of Liberal Hope as people tend to portray it, nor is it the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sodom as conservatives tend to lampoon it. It's essentially the US in microcosm, and just a bit ahead of the curve relative to the rest of the country.

I've extensively travelled the length and breadth of the state, got to know people all over. It's a wildly diverse place: economically, geographically, socially, and politically. But the key thing to understand is that California isn't a monolith. It's a place largely defined by agriculture, as well as the coastal elite.

You can travel for hours upon hours within this state and see only farmland. Once you leave the Bay Area or the LA regional sprawl, just about every square inch of arable land has some kind of crop growing on it. There's a whole northern third of the state that's farmland up to the foot of the mountains, and people are barely cognizant that it even exists. There's also a whole southern section of the state that's nothing but farmland to the Mexico border that people don't think much about, either. And of course, there's the Central Valley which everyone knows as the area between where they were and where they want to be.

That parts of the state that aren't arable are rugged, mountainous terrain and harsh, yet beautiful desert filled with a variety of interesting people. There are sights in this state that take your breath away, but the deserts are where I feel most at home. There are parts just a few miles away from any highway that are stone quiet, not even the sound of wind hitting your ears. You don't realize how much ambient noise is with you at all times until you're standing alone on the desert floor with billions of years of history on display before you and beautiful Quiet all around you.

Politically, the state is deceptively complex. What you see playing out on the national stage, especially with immigration, already happened in California 20 years ago. The Republicans shot their load on immigration, which turned out to be a self-inflicted wound from which they slowly bled out until they effectively died in the last couple of years. It turns out that when you vilify the family members of children, those kids grow up and remember it at the ballot box. Over the last 20 years, as the Republicans lost their bastions along the coast, the thin veneer of economic conservatism gave way and they doubled-down on the racism to appeal to an ever-shrinking base of white men in the suburbs and agricultural areas. At this point in 2019, the Republican party in California is a white nationalist group who can only find relevancy by getting specifically targeted items on the Proposition ballot, which are usually defeated.

What remains is an interesting political situation. Absent a viable opposition party, the Democratic party enjoys singular rule, which is usually a scenario ripe for overreach and inevitable backlash. That may yet come in the form of a formal party split, or even a renewed Republican party that's not just the political arm of the Klan, but for now we have a Democratic Party comprised of the core elements from the large cities, as well as those of the suburbs and many of the rural areas who've come along in more recent times.

The Democratic Party now encompasses the whole of mainstream political activity, as well as the socialist/progressive elements of the Left. The thing is, the interests that the Republicans used to represent are still there. The situations that lead to a conservative agenda still exist. There are people who don't want the state to get more crazy with taxes. There are those who want to ensure fiscal transparency and moderation in spending. There are homeowners. There are small business owners. There are large corporations -- Tech, Oil & Gas, and Agribusiness, to name a few. Those people used to be represented by Republicans in the state legislature, but are now largely represented by conservative Democrats.

This leads to a fairly complex interplay of competing interests within the same party. As Democratic representatives from the suburbs and rural areas gain influence and tenure, they may start caucusing together in a more formal way than they have so far. Corporate, business, and agricultural elements representing the rural parts of the state that have been politically ignored the last dozen years may ultimately find more influence in the Assembly & Senate than they did with the Republicans, simply due to intra-party tit-for-tat voting (i.e., "You support me on this, and I support you on that.").

As the new political reality began to emerge and express itself, Jerry Brown was actually pretty effective at walking the line between these various interests to serve as a moderating hand on the exuberance that single party rule tends to produce. But with him gone and Gavin Newsom in office, that may change. As the socialist Left gains more prominence and influence within the Party, they'll run right into the moderate and conservative Democrats, and something will have to give at some point. I don't know what will happen politically in the years to come, but we're in a moment of transition right now, dominated by ethnic and economic transformations & pressures that could play out in all different kinds of ways. But it's a safe bet that what's happening here (and our responses to it) will be a preview of what's to come at the national level 20 years from now.

At any rate, California is much more than the shorthand labels that liberals & conservatives outside the state pin on it. It's a fantastically interesting state filled with a wide variety of people and places that can't be easily pigeonholed or stereotyped.

Came here to post this. California is one hell of a place to live, for better or worse.
 

ZackieChan

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Really? The vending machines I've seen in Japan vastly outnumber the ones I see in other parts of Asia or North America. The way you see them in all the quiet, dark alleyways and such blows my mind.

Now you're making me think the UK is a vending machine paradise ;)
Yeah, but most are soda/coffee vending machines selling the same stuff. That was their point.
Not every street in Bangkok have market or dozen of street food vendors.

Only 90% of them.
You had me there for a second.
It amazes me that there's enough business to sustain all of them. That and massage places - I can't believe there's enough people getting Thai and foot massages to keep all these places in business. Where I live in Sathorn, there's a lot that seem to never have any customers.
 

Goldenroad

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I don't think people have many misconceptions about Saskatchewan except maybe the pronunciation. I think you kind of have to know something about a place to have any conceptions of it. Most people I've met in the US or abroad have not even heard of it, so I usually just say "I'm from Canada" and agree with them that "Vancouver is nice".
 
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I was in downtown Detroit last weekend, it's honestly a lovely city.
It was my first time there and I didn't know what to expect considering everyone thinks it's super dangerous. On the contrary, everyone was really nice, so much art just scattered around, cute little scooters you can zip around on, good food, etc...

I was there for the Movement music festival and I will 100% be back next year.
Thank you. Though I live right on the city border and my claim officially isn't as a detroiter, I appreciate it. Its a truly facinating city with a lot of love.
 
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Also, if you're not convinced Phoenix doesn't suck enough, here's some lovely footage of one of our best...

 

Sowrong

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Definitely the LA people are fake meme. From working in Burbank, you soon come to realization that its the mass influx or transplants trying to "make it" that give off this vibe. Native angelinos are usually nothing like the transplants.
 

Subpar Scrub

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When my Nan went on a 3 week holiday to the USA, she was asked multiple times if Australia has the internet and twice whether we had fuckin electricity yet.

Then again she's cheeky and convinced a few of the people in her bus tour group that we keep kangaroos and koalas as pets instead of dogs, so she's contributing to it.
 

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Really? The vending machines I've seen in Japan vastly outnumber the ones I see in other parts of Asia or North America. The way you see them in all the quiet, dark alleyways and such blows my mind.

Now you're making me think the UK is a vending machine paradise ;)

i know there are a lot. i said there are a lot! but people say things like "you can get anything in japanese vending machines" and it just isn't remotely true unless all you care about in life is boss coffee.

if i wanted to buy a kit-kat without human interaction i would fancy my chances in the UK over japan.
 
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Austin Texas is not a weird city and it hasn't been weird for a very long time.
Truth. Its not even close at this point.
Do not worry as a Houston guy I assure you. roughly half of us are aware of that.
Also true. Houston is actually a "weird" city, but usually Houstonians only mention it once to someone, then they say "But Austin...yada yada" and we don't mention it again. (Its absolutely true though). Same with diversity....
Houston is becoming more and more pompous day after day. It's becoming worse than Dallas.
It sure isn't. Ive lived in both. Dallas has this market cornered, but Houston has its own version of "pompus" its just not the same as the Dallas version.
Dude, the reason I don't want any more people here is because it's becoming too populated. If there's anything that's FAR from a misconception, it's our traffic problem. It's quite the opposite of pompous here, actually. Most people find the people of Houston quite neighborly actually.

I'm just personally fed up with the misconception of this place being a "swamp". There's actually not a swamp within miles and the horrible heat and humidity are only around for about 3 months. Otherwise I love the weather here. And as I was merely pointing out in my last post, there are just as bad if not worst things in other states. We don't have whole cities burn down, houses sliding off a cliff when it rains, earthquakes, or shovel snow everyday for half the year. But hey, this place is bad because it's a "swamp". And I'm fine with that. Stay far away so you're not one of the many vehicles takin up I-10.

Oh and everything is true about Dallas. Fuck that place. ;)
Ha, yeah bro, its kind of a swamp here. You have been here too long and forget that not all places when you walk outside immediately cover you in a protective shell of humidity.
 

hitme

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Oct 26, 2017
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San Francisco

Everyone and everything is expensive. Sure, if you're a transplant/tourist. Those who have been here 20 plus years most likely live in a house bought 30+ years ago or on rent control.
 

HououinKyouma

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Oct 27, 2017
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Pittsburgh

This isn't the 1970's anymore - we're not the "rugged steel city." US Steel is still a major player, but there isn't a single steel mill in the city limits.

Our economy is driven by health care and banking at this point.

Also,

 

Achtung

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Oct 25, 2017
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Minnesota here... 2 things

1) Most of the state.. certainly the twin cities.. do NOT talk like extras from the movie Fargo
2) Minnesota Nice is not real.. get off our lawn.
 

Sean

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Oct 25, 2017
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Same in Washington, get outside the Seattle/Tacoma/Olympia corridor along I-5 and things are much different.

Well, it's not *quite* that bad. Certainly a lot better than Oregon. Every Western county except Cowlitz (fucking Cowlitz) was Blue in 2016. Washington is also the only state where White Men went Blue in 2016. Though yes, every Eastern county is Red as fuck. It's a lot more of a West/East divide in Washington than it is Cities Vs Rural like in Oregon.

Helps that we have a mountain range splitting us up.
 

Xiaomi

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Oct 25, 2017
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Taiwanese people are thought to be some of the friendliest in Asia, and that's mostly true. What they don't tell you is that they curse like sailors and will tell you straight up what flaws they see in you (fat, poorly dressed, etc.) once you become friends with them.
 

ThisIsBlitz21

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Yes, all us Canadians live in igloos and were caribou hide coats while saying "eh" to each other.

We also drink maple syrup rather than another alcohol. We actual own a pet polar bear.

Though seriously,
Specifically I live in Vancouver, and let me tell you, the infanstructure and planning of roads feels way better in the US than Canada.
Also, it RAINS, RAINS, AND RAINS. But it snows surprisingly little.

It's interesting to compare different cities in locales, especially the little stuff. For example, in my city, if you give an indicator to change lanes, the guy behind you usually slows down to give space. In LA highways whenever you give the indicator people speed up instead to try to pass you before you change lane. People have no patience there, lol.
 
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Houston is actually a "weird" city,

Houston..weird? I've been to Houston (yes, even Montrose)...nothing about the city strikes me as weird. But I'm knocking Houston for it, it's just none of the weird cities I've been to really felt all that weird. That includes Austin, New Orleans, Portland, NYC, San Francisco, numerous college towns, etc. Then again, this is probably the point. They're all major cities with multiple people doing their own thing. If it happens to be "weird", so be it.
 

Pau

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That it's spelled Columbia.

(Not where I live but where I'm from.)
 

Ballpoint Ren

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Canada
That Canada is an amazing place with the nicest people and is in no way like the United States.

Meanwhile conservaitves and the right wing are destroying our country, systemic racism has been a consistent problem, and it was just revealed that thousands of aboriginal women have been missing and/or murdered for decades, but the federal government refuses to call it a genocide.
 

linkboy

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Minnesota Nice isn't a thing. Some people up here are outright jackasses (just like everywhere else).
 
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Houston..weird? I've been to Houston (yes, even Montrose)...nothing about the city strikes me as weird. But I'm knocking Houston for it, it's just none of the weird cities I've been to really felt all that weird. That includes Austin, New Orleans, Portland, NYC, San Francisco, numerous college towns, etc. Then again, this is probably the point. They're all major cities with multiple people doing their own thing. If it happens to be "weird", so be it.
That is the point. Houston has more people doing their own thing than any of those other cities (maybe not NYC). Its cheaper and more diverse... Further, unlike those cities, the lack of zoning means that things are very hidden. There is no "district" for certain things. Houston takes alot of time to get to know because of this.

Houston is "Weird" because there are over 100 languages spoken here with much of their own culture, yet it still comes together to be Houston in a way that is distinctly Houston...Again....hard to explain....and exactly what I was getting at in my previous post (ie, people always fight the assertion that Houston is weird based on some cursory visit where Houston more than many other cities does not lend itself to get a feel for it during that kind of time frame).

I always dig your posts. You have a thirst for travel, places and culture...one that I also share....I very much enjoy reading your posts and threads
 

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I don't think people realize how rural South Jersey actually is.

The beaches being trashy tourist traps is dead on though.
 

TheFuzz

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Everyone thinks Atlanta is "the south." Most of us aren't even from here, it's Northerners who moved for work, retirees, or people who have excellent taste in food and social life.

Outside of metro Atlanta and Athens, it's Alabama but with a better economy and more traffic.