Keep in mind the Series S is supposed to have game file sizes that are 30% smaller on average, so the SSD is potentially more around 665GB relative to the Series X (if my math's correct on that one).
What benefits are there for a PC owner buying an Xbox Series S/X?
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Keep in mind the Series S is supposed to have game file sizes that are 30% smaller on average, so the SSD is potentially more around 665GB relative to the Series X (if my math's correct on that one).
A Series S is slightly more expensive than a NVIDIA Shield, and offers a much better and more wide range of gaming options for the living room in my case.
I'd say wait untilt he Series S drops even lower, possibly hitting that 199 USD sweet spot in a couple years.
At that price, the companion console is worth it. Otherwise? You have a beefy PC, unless you really don't like playing on PC (like myself), there's little need to get a launch price console.
At that price, the companion console is worth it. Otherwise? You have a beefy PC, unless you really don't like playing on PC (like myself), there's little need to get a launch price console.
Yep. Unless you dislike the tinkering that still comes with PC territory, however much it has improved over the years.
But for me, there really is no reason.
This. You'd struggle to match the performance (with ray tracing) for $500.
It's not just that HDR is generally handled better and easier to take advantage of on consoles, the Series X supports Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos.
With Gamepass Ultimate and Play Anywhere I don't have to buy some games twice so me and my kid can enjoy games simultaneously. Also get the best version of games that don't come out on PC for a long period of time similar to RDR2 for example. Oh and backwards compatibility.
Positives
- Walled Garden -> one store, one login, one friendlist, one library
- TV friendly... everything in UI can be managed using one input device -> gamepad, without any scripts and other mumbo jumbo on PC that will fall apart as soon as any usage edge case arrives
- Cheap and tidy device that should play everything for years without thinking about any upgrades and it's hardware will most likely be used to it's full potential
- Seemingly good BC and improvements to existing library
- Decent UHD Blu-Ray player
Negatives
- Walled Garden
- Ray Tracing probably gonna suck compared to powerful PC
- Walled Garden -> one store, one login, one friendlist, one library
- TV friendly... everything in UI can be managed using one input device -> gamepad, without any scripts and other mumbo jumbo on PC that will fall apart as soon as any usage edge case arrives
- Cheap and tidy device that should play everything for years without thinking about any upgrades and it's hardware will most likely be used to it's full potential
- Seemingly good BC and improvements to existing library
- Decent UHD Blu-Ray player
Negatives
- Walled Garden
- Ray Tracing probably gonna suck compared to powerful PC
I like the synergy between the platforms (especially with the play anywhere titles) and often switch between them from game to game, depending on where I feel a game is the better fit. The controller support is also far superior on console, compared to the Xbox App that has limited joypad integration and an interface that isn't really fit for the living room.
There can also be differences in which titles come to which platform on Game Pass + Xbox has hundreds of backwards compatible games (Lost Odyssey, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Ninja Gaiden Black etc.), some of which are not available on any other platform. Just like it can make sense to buy a SNES Classic or similar to have access to a small selection of games, Xbox gives you access to a selection of games from four generations of the platform (if we include the upcoming) going back to 2001.
There can also be differences in which titles come to which platform on Game Pass + Xbox has hundreds of backwards compatible games (Lost Odyssey, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Ninja Gaiden Black etc.), some of which are not available on any other platform. Just like it can make sense to buy a SNES Classic or similar to have access to a small selection of games, Xbox gives you access to a selection of games from four generations of the platform (if we include the upcoming) going back to 2001.
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I strictly play pc games via monitor. Xbox via oled tv. I think they compliment eachother well. On top of this if you have a significant other it makes life alot easier for playing together.
Looking at the future of XGS, if you like RPGs and don't mind using a controller, having an XSX would be handy if you ever wanna play those games on the TV as for first party games your saves will more than likely transfer over (the game needs to be a Play Anywhere title, but almost every first party game is)
PC Upgrade costs and couch gaming are the main reasons Xbox is still an attractive option for some PC gamers. If history is anything to go by, the XsX should age much better than gaming PC's, but that may change with DLSS 2.0/3.0.
For me personally, I have no problem spending $2k every 2-3 years for PC gaming and yet I'm contemplating getting an XboX in a couple years for the living room
For folks here and the kind of pcs they have? Probably not much but you gotta remember a lot of folks irl just aren't playing on a top of the range pc at all times, nor will be any time soon. So the biggest reason to grab an xbox if you care is $$$, it's a great deal for what's in it.
I sit in front of my work PC for HOURS. So at end of day I just want comfy couch. I could probably get some type of home theater pc but nah. Yet another stupid PC to maintain. No thanks.
So it's good for comfy coach, conveniece, playing with people who own Xbox, local co-op and if you have kids.
So it's good for comfy coach, conveniece, playing with people who own Xbox, local co-op and if you have kids.
I think price is the obvious answer for most people.
I game on both PC and consoles and my gaming PC is perfectly competent on my 1080p monitor in my office. But the CPU is getting a little old in the tooth now and I'm still running an old HDD in it. If I wanted to upgrade it to anything approaching the Series X/PS5 and future-proof it for the upcoming gen to use at 4K/60 I'd be looking at new CPU, new motherboard, new SSD etc before even getting to GPU prices. Most people are in this boat. Most people, outside of enthusiasts, aren't gaming on Series X level rigs at the moment. I've been able to buy a Series X and a PS5 for what I would spend upgrading my PC at the moment. So my PC will stay perfectly happily playing games at 1080p in another room at a desk while my consoles are on my big 4K TV.
The Series S is silly cheap for what you get in terms of a next gen console even as a luxury, TV box addition to your house. It only costs £70 more than buying an Apple TV. It's ridiculous.
I game on both PC and consoles and my gaming PC is perfectly competent on my 1080p monitor in my office. But the CPU is getting a little old in the tooth now and I'm still running an old HDD in it. If I wanted to upgrade it to anything approaching the Series X/PS5 and future-proof it for the upcoming gen to use at 4K/60 I'd be looking at new CPU, new motherboard, new SSD etc before even getting to GPU prices. Most people are in this boat. Most people, outside of enthusiasts, aren't gaming on Series X level rigs at the moment. I've been able to buy a Series X and a PS5 for what I would spend upgrading my PC at the moment. So my PC will stay perfectly happily playing games at 1080p in another room at a desk while my consoles are on my big 4K TV.
The Series S is silly cheap for what you get in terms of a next gen console even as a luxury, TV box addition to your house. It only costs £70 more than buying an Apple TV. It's ridiculous.
I just wish I could get a similar PC for the price of an X. The mods plus way cheaper games are hard to beat. And I'm saying this even though I got a pre-order for an XSX without thinking it twice but maybe I'll just cancel it. A dedicated 4k PC on the living room would be my ultimate gaming experience.
I have a capable PC and I mainly bought one for console convenience and to have a GamePass machine in my living room and office.
I own a Xbox One X and a gaming PC. With Gaming Pass on the PC, I don't see any reason to own a XSX or XSS. I would be wasting my money. as my gaming PC completely outperforms the Xbox consoles and delivers the better gaming experience. Plus investing in a gaming PC gives me access to a ton of other PC games via Steam, GOG or EGS.
Comfy couch gaming of course. My PC is hooked up to a high refresh rate monitor. Capable of gaming....so any PC? lol the XSX is gonna be kicking better performance than the 1060, aka the most popular steam gpu. I get it if you have a super high end PC, but XSX seems to be a better deal to average person.
but this is why MS gives you the option
I personally can't relax at the same place I work 10 hours a day. That's the main benefit for me. Also, my rig is "okay," 1070/i7, but it's rapidly getting long in the tooth. Trying to keep up these days in the PC space is damn expensive. At this point I will just get a series X to tide me over for the triple As until I commit to a new build.
Yep, this is why I kept my launch Xbox One. Not sure how long the rewards program will keep going on the older machines. Maybe I'll get the Series S later on. Unless they make a PC app..?
Eventually I'll sell my Xbox One X and get a Series X purely for backwards compatibility of old 360 games that never got a PC port. Gears 2 and 3, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Red Dead Redemption, and many others are a very good reason for me personally to own a Series X.
All of that being said, it'll have to drop in price a LOT before I touch it.
All of that being said, it'll have to drop in price a LOT before I touch it.
This is why I opted for the Series S. I have a good PC so I'm largely getting it as a BC machine
I am also concerned about the SSD size of the Series S and wish that MS would offer more of a variety of size expansion cards at launch. I look at the Seagate proprietary SSD more like a traditional memory card. A $50 256GB and a $100 512GB would have been nice to have for people trying to save money and still be able to get the ability to hold another 3 to 6 next gen games. That would be a great option until the price of memory comes down and you can snag a 2TB for maybe $150.
You're paying less money for the hardware and it's more comfy couch friendly.
Outside of that, nothing comes to mind. Games are cheaper on PC, and the free games Epic has given out blows away what Live Gold "gives".
You're also getting access to way more games on PC. We'll probably be seeing a lot more Sony stuff in the future, which Xbox will never get.
Outside of that, nothing comes to mind. Games are cheaper on PC, and the free games Epic has given out blows away what Live Gold "gives".
You're also getting access to way more games on PC. We'll probably be seeing a lot more Sony stuff in the future, which Xbox will never get.
I don't know how people can be on their PC all fucking day. First for work, then gaming. So much physical stress on the body, and even the mind in my opinion. Maybe I am old but that's how I feel.
PC is fine but sometimes I don't always wanna sit at my desk and the PC I have hooked to my tv is my live tv plex server. And sometimes it's nice gaming on a tv and not consuming 500-700 watts for hours and hours.
This is my logic for my PC and Series S pairing. I have Game Pass so I'll play a lot of the games on PC and when I want a break from being on the computer I'll pop on the Series S and relax. Is performance going to be as good as my PC? Of course not but it will be good enough for the games on Series S I'll occasionally play.
The Gamepass library, the more stable user experience regard to Xbox Games on PC.
I have a pretty decent computer but it's not in the living room and I really dig playing games on my OLED 55" LG, so that's why I'll take both next gen consoles.
I have a pretty decent computer but it's not in the living room and I really dig playing games on my OLED 55" LG, so that's why I'll take both next gen consoles.
A lot of the comments in the OP and thread talk specifically about laying down even more money for "cost saving" benefits. But if you have a high end PC there really isn't much reason.
This comment made me feel a bit sad for you. My gaming PC is quieter than my Xbox One and PS4, even upon initial startup (no game in play nor inserted in drive).
If noise bothers you, look into your quiet build options, a Fractal Design Refine with no windows and a big air CPU fan.
This comment made me feel a bit sad for you. My gaming PC is quieter than my Xbox One and PS4, even upon initial startup (no game in play nor inserted in drive).
If noise bothers you, look into your quiet build options, a Fractal Design Refine with no windows and a big air CPU fan.
Agreed that more options would've been nice. Personally I'm going with a USB drive for cold storage for now until prices drop or something.
Sports games for one. 2K is garbage on PC, and FIFA's online community is eh on there as well. The Windows store is a very enticing reason I don't want to deal with playing Microsoft games on PC. If I'm playing a single player game on PC, I want mods, and I want the ability to be able to use community fixes for things the devs left out or haven't fixed. The fact that I can't even open the folder where games and apps are installed is infuriating.
