When the Titanic sank, Women and Children boarded the lifeboats first
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Well why should an older person go before the youngest?
If the children are going wouldn't they go with a parent or are we gonna orphan all of them?
If the children are going wouldn't they go with a parent or are we gonna orphan all of them?
Thought the rule was that the captain could get off once everyone else was safely off the ship.
If you're the captain and everyone else is off the ship you dont have to stand there and wave. I think it's one if those things that has more to it like wild west gun control laws
If you're the captain and everyone else is off the ship you dont have to stand there and wave. I think it's one if those things that has more to it like wild west gun control laws
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What about the Captain? It seems like the idea with that is he should be the last off the ship, due to him having "ultimate responsibility" for it.
It should be children and old people I guess, in terms of the ones who need the most help.
No difference between men and women though, that wouldn't pass today
No difference between men and women though, that wouldn't pass today
If you got on a lifeboat before children in 2018 like 90 people would film it on their phones and everyone would know forever.
I always read it as an example of the deep sexism of the time. I mean if you watch the movie you'll be reminded that this was a time when women had very prescribed roles (of course this was through a 1990s post-feminist lens so they emphasize these things). They were practically property of the men... and so were the children. That's why they go first. The men are supposed to be taking care of the people under their care...
I spoke to some friends from Asia and they interpreted the women and children thing as noble. I was a bit shocked...
I spoke to some friends from Asia and they interpreted the women and children thing as noble. I was a bit shocked...
Definitely children. But yeah, after that it should be in order of those who are most able to survive NOT in a lifeboat, cause there's a real chance you would be rescued in time in this modern age.
So disabled people and the elderly would also have to be prioritized, then women, then men, though obviously that wouldn't be true for all women and men, but good as a rule of thumb.
The goal should be to keep everyone alive, so everyone should stick with a lifeboat and then spend turns inside and outside the boat.
It's worth noting, the Titanic sunk very slowly, so there was time to think of all that. Most ships sinking are fast and cause a panic and so it'd be impossible to organize something like that.
Edit: And that's assuming a modern ship didn't somehow have space on the lifeboats, and I'm pretty sure that's a requirement nowadays, especially for civilian crafts.
So disabled people and the elderly would also have to be prioritized, then women, then men, though obviously that wouldn't be true for all women and men, but good as a rule of thumb.
The goal should be to keep everyone alive, so everyone should stick with a lifeboat and then spend turns inside and outside the boat.
It's worth noting, the Titanic sunk very slowly, so there was time to think of all that. Most ships sinking are fast and cause a panic and so it'd be impossible to organize something like that.
Edit: And that's assuming a modern ship didn't somehow have space on the lifeboats, and I'm pretty sure that's a requirement nowadays, especially for civilian crafts.
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The Joker booby trapped all the lifeboats. You've just put all our women and children in grave danger.
put the child down...gently.
Well even similar to back then, it would be the rich regardless of sex/age who got on the life boats first. Of course it should be children first, but there is no reason why men or women should be prioritized one over the other after that. You could argue parents to take care of said children should be prioritized over singles or childless couples.
Man if some of these guys were about to die in a plane crash the last thing they'd do is hastily create a meme out of it.
There's room for everyone.
Unless you're on a large door, then fuck off
Unless you're on a large door, then fuck off
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It comes from chivalry. The idea was that the strong and privileged should endeavor to help the weak and disadvantaged before helping themselves.
From Wikipedia:
As a code of conduct, "women and children first" has no basis in maritime law. According to disaster evacuation expert Ed Galea, in modern-day evacuations people will usually "help the most vulnerable to leave the scene first, likely to be the injured, elderly and young children."[8]
It's more a societal pressure thing.
Children should go first, and well, children also shouldn't go alone. Prioritize one of the parents at least.
It's my understanding that Charles Lightoller, an officer on the Titanic, was the person who enforced the policy as women and children "only". Apparently there were spots available in boats, but he made the call to lower the boats regardless. He lived with that regret all his life. Then, in 1940, in his retirement from the Navy, crossed the English Channel in his boat with his son to pick up soldiers stranded at Dunkirk. That's right! The same guy on the Titanic who enforced women+children only is the SAME dude as Mark Rylance's character in Dunkirk. Wild.
Thread Title: "About to die on a sinking ship and its all the women's fault"
It didn't happen in Korea.
The captain was one of the first to flee
https://nypost.com/2014/04/17/25-dead-in-south-korea-ferry-disaster-as-captain-remains-cagey/
The captain was one of the first to flee
https://nypost.com/2014/04/17/25-dead-in-south-korea-ferry-disaster-as-captain-remains-cagey/
Wait...is this true? How has this guys life not been a movie? Sounds like a tailor made redemption story that Hollywood would love.
I totally don't see anything wrong with Women and children first. Men can't reproduce and children should have their entire lives ahead of them. I think at its core, it's just the right thing to do overall. Old people lived a full life. I personally don't se it as either sexist or chivalrous.
As a husband and a Father, I'd be making damn sure my wife and children were on that boat before me
As a husband and a Father, I'd be making damn sure my wife and children were on that boat before me
Should thin people have priority over fat people? What if you can fit 10 fat people in a boat, or 20 thin people?
What is the ethical thing to do?
What is the ethical thing to do?
It was because of the Titanic that we now are required to have enough lifeboats for the crew and passengers on ships.
