When you think about Larry David had the better career compared to Jerry.
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Post-Seinfeld, Jerry was middling to me. But his recent swerve into supporting genocide and complaining about "woke crap" killing comedy or something puts him squarely in basura territory. Bye bitch. Larry wins
I also saw him about 10 years ago with Gaffigan. The show was fine but the main thing I remember is him "opening the floor" to questions at the end and he was a miserable asshole to every single person who dared ask something. Ended the show on a sour note, "never meet your heroes" kind of situation.
Seinfeld is more recognisable though. I don't know, I think they both did extremely well in different ways.
Larry also had some stinker movies as well :p
Larry also had some stinker movies as well :p
There's an extremely weird narrative on this forum lately that Jerry is a talentless hack who had nothing to do with the success or quality of Seinfeld and that it's all due to Larry. They co-created that show and co-wrote many episodes together. Jerry is also the lead of that show, and while he's the weakest actor in the cast (though my burning hot take has always been that his performance is actually *underrated*) he is the central performance that all the actors bounce off of. The revisionist stuff is obviously due to Israel but like, that has fuck all to do with the sitcom itself.
Curb's first 5-7 seasons are fantastic and still kill but imo they're not on the same level of timeless/iconic comedy as Seinfeld (tbf almost nothing is) and I think Curb started running out of gas beginning in S8 anyway. Seinfeld started declining in its eighth season too and people attribute that to Larry leaving, but I think sitcoms just naturally start feeling long in the tooth when they run for that long. If you really want to play the "Seinfeld sucked without Larry" game you also have to reckon with the series finale being the show's most despised episode and that was entirely done by Larry though I always liked it and thought the hate was way overblown
Curb's first 5-7 seasons are fantastic and still kill but imo they're not on the same level of timeless/iconic comedy as Seinfeld (tbf almost nothing is) and I think Curb started running out of gas beginning in S8 anyway. Seinfeld started declining in its eighth season too and people attribute that to Larry leaving, but I think sitcoms just naturally start feeling long in the tooth when they run for that long. If you really want to play the "Seinfeld sucked without Larry" game you also have to reckon with the series finale being the show's most despised episode and that was entirely done by Larry though I always liked it and thought the hate was way overblown
Yeah the idea that his career collapsed without Larry misunderstands that Jerry just pivoted back to only doing standup post-Seinfeld. It's not like he tried to stay a TV star the way the rest of the cast tried (and only JLD succeeded at it). Though I disagree he junked his entire set and started over…I saw him a few years ago and he repeated a joke that I heard him make on one of the standup segments in Seinfeld lol
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It's this impulse, different situation of course, but people don't want problematic people to be talented. I get it, but that's not how people work.
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Well not entirely true
EDIT: fuck lol
Your argument is invalid
I love that the response is a literal swarm of Larry Davids.
It's something I really do honestly hate. Why should someone being a shitty person be tied to the quality of their work anyways? Would it be okay for them to be shitty if their work WAS good? It should be totally irrelevant, some people I almost think just get a thrill out of shitting on things more than they genuinely care.
Also feels like 'actually their work was shitty all along and I am enlightened for hating it before they were revealed to be a shitty person' is another facet of this that comes up a lot that I dislike equally.
Yeah, I think so as well.
To be honest, I'd take that as a win if I were Larry David.
He's definitely done well for himself financially (don't know his net worth, but i suspect he's not living paycheck to paycheck...), and he's not quite as recognizable as Jerry? While I'm sure there a plenty of Curb fans that may recognize him and want to chat, or take selfies, or get an autograph, but I imagine compared to Jerry, he's relatively "anonymous." That would, personally, be my preferred choice. Being financially independent/well off, and no one knows my face so I'm not hounded everywhere I go? Fucking win! lol
Random aside, but partially related:
This actually reminds me of back when I was in my early 20's, I worked at a Bookstore, and one day my coworker was like, "Dude, dude!" And I'm like, "What, man?" and he's like, turn around, it's Matt Groening!" So I turned and looked, and was like, "Uh, where?" And it's not because I don't know what Matt Groening looks like, because I did at the time, I just couldn't tell which one was him, because he was going up the escalator and was at profile. He was actually a fairly common regular in our store, but he wasn't getting pestered or hounded for autographs by people. Guy created one of the most successful and iconic animated series of all time, yet he can go about his day without having mobs of people swarming him all the time.
I agree with everything you said, although the bolded, I can sort of understand just a teensy bit, but I'm probably biased because I've been on the receiving end of that. Lol. I can't tell you how many times I got into disagreements with friends/coworkers because I didn't think Elon Musk was awesome, or because I couldn't stand Bill Maher. Literal years of that shit, and I never said anything more than, "I don't really like them. My 'asshole radar' goes off with these dudes," so it has felt a little bit vindicating to see the turnaround public perception wise of those two over the past few years. (insert Captain Hold vindication gif here)
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Naw I get you there, I think Elon Musk worship especially was on another whole level and was problematic from the get-go. I'm mostly referring to people who act that way to vindicate petty dislike of random shows and media and shit more than weird cult of personality worship of a megarich dude that was always sort of '???'
But then again I'M biased too because I was also anti-Musk when he was still near universally internet-beloved lol.
Considering the few things he did afterward, it's good he didn't. Who knows what slop he'd unleash if shit like Bee Movie and the Pop Tart movie are what he's choosing to do for passion
Oh yeah, i definitely agree with that and am with you there!
And also; fist bump to disliking Musk from jump XD XD
That dude always triggered my Spider Sense, even though I couldn't quite pinpoint what it was about him. Now I know lol
Yeah I agree with that. I watched a lot of behind the scene Seinfeld stuff (as I am sure many people have) and Jerry was involved in every step of that show. It's as much his as Larry David's. Also Larry is great, but what he wanted to do for the show (which eventually became Curb to some degree) wouldn't have worked back then, Jerry really helped taking his ideas and applying them in a more broad audience friendly manner.
Also Jerry wasn't a great actor, but I think in some ways it kind of worked, it made him feel like he wasn't acting at all and this was his life, kind of like a proto Curb. He also had great chemistry with everyone. It felt weirdly natural.