Who is considered the greater mind- T'challa or Dr. Doom
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You could throw Dr. Doom in a Radio Shack and within 24 hours he'd probably build something that would blow the iPhone X out of the goddamn water.
You could throw Dr. Doom in a Radio Shack and within 24 hours he'd probably build something that would blow the iPhone X out of the goddamn water.
BP serves his people for their ends. Doom exploits his for his own ends. Doom always has the crutch of being self serving to a magnificent fault. It's his ultimate limit even when he gains ultimate power.
BP falls short of being a god king, but gets those with godlike powers under control.
Fail up, or fail down.
BP has the better track record for his goals and getting it done.
BP falls short of being a god king, but gets those with godlike powers under control.
Fail up, or fail down.
BP has the better track record for his goals and getting it done.
Sort of off-topic but
I do love how Pym automatically assumes he's not part of the top 6.
that's not it at all, Pym probably puts himself at no. 3.Sort of off-topic but
I do love how Pym automatically assumes he's not part of the top 6.
Stark's just a genius engineer. Frequently they put more limits on his intelligence over Reed or Doom's or even Pym and Banner.
Well if you count the greater Marvel Universe, there's a LOT of entities that even easily outsmart Richards and the likes. But if we're staying on Earth, then Stark is not in the top 3, but probably in the top... 5 or 7 or so.
Intelligence levels are off-scale on the Marvel U.
There you have people like Doom, Richards, Pym, Banner, Beast, T'Challa, Stark, Peter Parker, Amadeus Cho, Moon Girl, Valeria Richards, Leonardo Da Vinci, The Mad Thinker, The Leader, Blue Marvel and Iso.
Each one would be a super genius on many fields.
For The record, Batman was confirmed to be the 2nd smartest person on the DC Earth (just after Luthor) and he can't even compare with a single name from my previous list.
Tchala is smart as heck, but he doesnt have the decades of science feats to match up to doom/reed/pym. Tbf he probably can't match up to Brashear either.
Until Time Runs Out, the people of latveria mostly legit loved Doom. Confirmed by telepaths.
Latveria was a backwater shithole until Doom took it over some decades ago. Wakanda has a long history of being an Awesome Place filled with Awesome People.
Until Time Runs Out, the people of latveria mostly legit loved Doom. Confirmed by telepaths.
Vic is pretty much immune to telepathy and mind control in general. Purple Man and Emma found that out.
Vic has barely any use for his people. Dude's ample use of doombots made latveria essentially a post-scarcity society.
Worth noting that valeria also has that rarest of traits: common goddamn sense.
Remember ALL CAPS when you spells the mans name
Yeah T'challa is dope styles and has bested doom on a number of occasions. But DOOM is smarter
Might try to recruit him on the squad. might not get the call back though
Yeah T'challa is dope styles and has bested doom on a number of occasions. But DOOM is smarter
Might try to recruit him on the squad. might not get the call back though
Doom is smarter, but a portion of his brain is dominated at almost all times by his self-interest and (more in the past than nowadays) his infinite hatred of Reed. When he's not focused on Reed, he's pretty much unstoppable, brain-wise.
Apparently,
I'm still going to say the guy with the Doctor in his name is the smarter of the two. I always viewed BP as a fighter/guardian not some grand mastermind.
Edit - I know double R is supposed to be smart but I heard he fucks up like a lot.
the thing with Reed is that he has no common sense whatsoever. Left to his own devices, he's one of the most dangerous entities in the marvel universe. Thus the importance of the fantastic *four*: they're there to keep him grounded and remind him of how his hubris can harm those close to him.
right how could I forget two prepubescent girls are the smartest people in the world let me fix that
Moon Girl
Valeria
Reed
Doom
Everyone else
though I guess Reed and Valeria is not on earth so this might change when they come back
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pretty much an example is something Rick and mortgage stole from something is the Council of Reeds who pretty much abandoned their families (apparently because of some time travel nonsense every single one of them lost their dad's in every reality which made a lot if them assholes because their Dad is responsible of keeping them grounded)
What happens because the council is kinda of a circlejerk they do horrible things "to fix everything" like lobotomise any doom, they find murder people, generally playing God
they also ducked up, one of them was a Nazi Reed who ended up destroying his galaxy in an accident
and oh also ended up almost letting a group of mad celestial ( basically gods) to go to every reality they can and fuck things up
or also when some of them get stuck on our earth they were willing to let the earth get destroyed to get back to their reality
basically Reed needs to be grounded
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But he does magic. Can that simpleton Richards perform magic? No, because he's not smart enough.
T'Chala may be "wiser", but in terms of intellect, even though Doom has shown a modicum of respect for other minds in the past (like Stark or Xavier I think), the only other he has ever admired in his life has been Richards.
Moon Girl I have no idea, too recent a character so I don't know much about her.
Moon Girl I have no idea, too recent a character so I don't know much about her.
Sort of off-topic but
I do love how Pym automatically assumes he's not part of the top 6.
This is why I never liked Doom, it felt more like a 1st grader writing "the ultimate supervilain!"
1999 - 2005 MF DOOM is completely OP and no one can beat him though
maybe if you only read one or 2 comics
Who fixed galactus?
Reed could have done it if he wasn't busy ducking up or remaking the multiversemaybe if you only read one or 2 comics
Who fixed galactus?
Latveria has also only been under Doom's control for about a decade or so. Wakanda has been ahead of the rest of the world for generations.
Yep when the rest of the world was trying to figure out bronze they had repeating crossbows with steel arrowheads
The Ultimates. Precisely why those two issues use "we" so much.
To be fair, the geniuses in the Marvel Universe have pretty big egos.
Wakanda (though it used to be because T'challa used to be responsible for its technology) have pretty much always have been the most advanced country besides maaaaaaaybe Atlantis before T'challa was born
Doom took control like at least a decade depending on comic time and he's an asshole and rather spend time finding ways to annoy reed than anything
Well if Reed Richards is the smartest man in the world and Doom is mostly able to match wits with him then that means Doom has the greater mind. But Tchalla has defeated Doom in the past So I would say T'Challa is not that far behind Doom.
Doom of course.
I think even mentioning Black Panther is an odd choice. Great leader, great hero and great character, but great mind? He's no dummy but it seems like there's several Marvel characters who would rank ahead intellectually. Wakanda has a wonderful natural resource, but that doesn't mean it's leader is GOAT.
I think even mentioning Black Panther is an odd choice. Great leader, great hero and great character, but great mind? He's no dummy but it seems like there's several Marvel characters who would rank ahead intellectually. Wakanda has a wonderful natural resource, but that doesn't mean it's leader is GOAT.
The man spends more on advanced android replicas of himself and powering his time machine. Latveria is North Korea lmaoooooooo
Carol the cosmic uber driver did get them to their spots on time
You know even though I liked Infamous Iron Man I still can't ever ever accept Doom dressing up as Tony, I just take it as another malfunctioning Doombot.
