Who is this generation's hardest boss?
- Thread starter crimzonflame
- Start date
I thought Sigrun, while obviously hard, was made easier by being an amalgamation of every Valkyrie you'd fought so far. If you could consistently block or evade all their attacks well enough to beat them, you already had everything you needed to beat Sigrun; she just had more health and dished out more damage.
For me it was the humanoid bosses of Bayonetta 2 on Infinite Climax. They're a lot of fun on lower difficulties, but on the highest difficulty they all become exercises in tedium due to their input-reading AI. They'll automatically dodge any attack you throw at them in normal speed, so the only way to touch them is to dodge one of their attacks to get Witch Time and then land one or two hits in the extremely short window of slowed time. Rinse and repeat for as long as it takes to whittle down that health bar; there's really nothing else you can do. It's hard to pick out a single one as being harder than the others because they all basically feel like the same fight, but I think Baldur 3 caused me the most trouble because his attacks have such wide coverage and he can chew through half your health bar in moments.
For me it was the humanoid bosses of Bayonetta 2 on Infinite Climax. They're a lot of fun on lower difficulties, but on the highest difficulty they all become exercises in tedium due to their input-reading AI. They'll automatically dodge any attack you throw at them in normal speed, so the only way to touch them is to dodge one of their attacks to get Witch Time and then land one or two hits in the extremely short window of slowed time. Rinse and repeat for as long as it takes to whittle down that health bar; there's really nothing else you can do. It's hard to pick out a single one as being harder than the others because they all basically feel like the same fight, but I think Baldur 3 caused me the most trouble because his attacks have such wide coverage and he can chew through half your health bar in moments.
It has to be Orphan of Kos (Bloodborne) or Fume Knight (Dark Souls II).
Orphan of Kos is the only boss I gave up (after almost beating him with like 1 HP remaining) and I beat all other bosses in every Souls game to date.
Orphan of Kos is the only boss I gave up (after almost beating him with like 1 HP remaining) and I beat all other bosses in every Souls game to date.
Beating this guy on critical (without cheesing it) is my greatest accomplishment in life.
Doesn't count as this gen though seeing as it's from a PS2 game (that was localised on PS3).
Hopefully KH3 can top it.
Last edited:
These threads usually suck since most posts are related to games most people have played and those bosses wouldn't be close to being the hardest. In reality, the hardest boss this gen comes from some very niche indie game.
Difficulty is subjective.
Difficulty is subjective.
Rodin Bayonetta 2, majority probably haven't fought him but he easily stomps anything mentioned here.
That I haven't beaten:
Midir/Laurence (NG+)
That I'v Beaten:
Kos (NG+)
Not sure how difficult they are on NG because I always end up playing the DLC when I'm already in NG+.
Midir/Laurence (NG+)
That I'v Beaten:
Kos (NG+)
Not sure how difficult they are on NG because I always end up playing the DLC when I'm already in NG+.
All the friggin kudos to this guy and his forearms. Like holy shit!
My emotions, his emotions through all of that and at the end of the parts. All of the emotions!
ed:
Last edited:
Another for Orphan of Kos.. NG+. Extremely hard but honestly, also really fun. It tested everything you'd been learning. The arena was awesome.
It's either Pthumerian Descendant of Great Pthumeru Ihyll Chalice in Bloodborne, or Taro Gunkanyama in Let It Die, for me. The former took me ages to beat by myself, and the randomness of the latter made it extremely hard; I had to beat one of the phases without a weapon, and managed to break my armor in the process.
Laurence wasn't that bad for me on normal playthrough, but I wasn't able to beat him on NG+. Even with the help of Valtr.
The Valkyrie Queen in GoW took me a few tries even on the easiest difficulty and with the best gear. It was way harder than any other enemy in the game and I beat other bosses on higher difficulties.
How hard is the Valkyrie Queen on easy diffulty compared to souls game bosses? I always considered playing a souls game but the supposed high difficulty is daunting.
How hard is the Valkyrie Queen on easy diffulty compared to souls game bosses? I always considered playing a souls game but the supposed high difficulty is daunting.
I died to a big ass frog in The Witcher 3 DLC more times that I did to almost anything else in that game. Played it after beating the Main Game so I guess I felt I was good or something and forgot how to play properly. Bunch of tough fights in that DLC now I come to think of it. Also the end fight to the other DLC - died there too. Huh hadn't realised it but yeah the DLC's for The Witcher 3 had harder bosses for me. Makes sense I guess.
From what I played (and beat):
Darkeater Midir (Dark Souls III)
Definitely the hardest boss in any of the Dark Souls games. He's big, so the camera doesn't play nice and almost all his attacks are a one hit kill. To further complicate things, the AI summon for the boss is bugged and will fall to her death before the battle even begins. Yay?
Nightmare King Grimm (Hollow Knight)
Take the fastest and most unpredicable boss in the entire game, make him even faster and give him an entirely new moveset on top of his entire (expanded) old moveset and make every hit do two damage and you've got Nightmare King Grimm. He's by far the most insane boss in the game and that says a lot, since Hollow Knight's bosses in general are no slouch.
Grim Matchstick (Cuphead)
Fuck this dragon, fuck him hard.
Special mention
Sub-mission: Everlasting Duty (Nioh)
This might be a bit cheating, but fuck it... this is by far the hardest thing I ever beat in a video game. You fight the two toughest bosses in the entire game (Janomecho and Nine-Tailed Fox) at the same time. Both are incredibly fast, have massive AoE attacks and are capable of almost one hit killing you with pretty much every attack. Oh, and Janomecho actually can deal four different types of elemental damage (his weapon is the only dual elemental weapon in the game and he has two guardians spirits).
I'm pretty sure that while most of the game follows the hard-but-fair ideal, this is just massively unfair. To beat this you need to be incredibly well-versed in the different combo's of your weapons and have an insane amount of luck. I think this took me about a week of relentless trying before I finally beat it.
Darkeater Midir (Dark Souls III)
Definitely the hardest boss in any of the Dark Souls games. He's big, so the camera doesn't play nice and almost all his attacks are a one hit kill. To further complicate things, the AI summon for the boss is bugged and will fall to her death before the battle even begins. Yay?
Nightmare King Grimm (Hollow Knight)
Take the fastest and most unpredicable boss in the entire game, make him even faster and give him an entirely new moveset on top of his entire (expanded) old moveset and make every hit do two damage and you've got Nightmare King Grimm. He's by far the most insane boss in the game and that says a lot, since Hollow Knight's bosses in general are no slouch.
Grim Matchstick (Cuphead)
Fuck this dragon, fuck him hard.
Special mention
Sub-mission: Everlasting Duty (Nioh)
This might be a bit cheating, but fuck it... this is by far the hardest thing I ever beat in a video game. You fight the two toughest bosses in the entire game (Janomecho and Nine-Tailed Fox) at the same time. Both are incredibly fast, have massive AoE attacks and are capable of almost one hit killing you with pretty much every attack. Oh, and Janomecho actually can deal four different types of elemental damage (his weapon is the only dual elemental weapon in the game and he has two guardians spirits).
I'm pretty sure that while most of the game follows the hard-but-fair ideal, this is just massively unfair. To beat this you need to be incredibly well-versed in the different combo's of your weapons and have an insane amount of luck. I think this took me about a week of relentless trying before I finally beat it.
+1 for DSIII DLC bosses. The boss of Ashes of Ariandel is laughably hard. Way harder than S&O for instance. Midir is quite rough too. Hollow Knight probably has the hardest bosses on average though.
I played 99% of God of War on normal mode, but when I got to Sigrun I had to reduce the difficulty to easy and felt like a massive scrub in the process.
I was prepared as well, I didn't rush into the fight or anything, but whenever I whittled her down to the last few bars of health I got destroyed everytime and I just couldn't take it anymore.
I was prepared as well, I didn't rush into the fight or anything, but whenever I whittled her down to the last few bars of health I got destroyed everytime and I just couldn't take it anymore.
He's part of the Grimm Troupe DLC. He's the final boss, but he is missable since the Grimm Troupe DLC has two endings.
Damn. Thannks mate! :)
Will try to take her out in the weekend. God guides me...
Orphan of Kos.
Darkeater Midir.
I still don't know how I managed to beat Midir, fucker is insane.
Darkeater Midir.
I still don't know how I managed to beat Midir, fucker is insane.
Having healing items to use whenever you want, and being able to summon NPCs and other players to help eases many of the Souls boss fights in comparison to GOW's valkyries. You can even cheese some of them. The hardest are usually optional, and in the DLCs. I'd say the Valkyrie Queen on easy is about as hard as some of the more aggressive bosses on solo in Souls games, that don't leave you much time to breathe.
I thought the Valkyrie Queen was easy compared to Soulsborne bosses. GoW gives you plenty of options to deal with bosses including runic attacks, Atreus summons, Atreus arrows+melee, axe throwing, Spartan Rage which grants health and invincibility, etc. Plus, you can attack for as long as you want without penalty. On the other hand, Dark Souls "simplicity" requires greater mastery and concentration. You have to constantly watch and manage your stamina bar and healing itself, while more readily available than GoW, is a risk in itself. So, I'd say even a Dark Souls boss like The Pursuer is more difficult, to me, than Sigurn because it requires total concentration.
Might not even be the hardest in this game, but that gives a good idea. Avoid watching if you dislike anime girls with non proper outfits.
I'll give a special mention to the final boss in marrow, don't think there's any video with how obscure that game is, as it easily entered the "Dark Fact" category in term of how stupid it is.
Last edited:
Order of Difficulty for Me:
1. Ni Oh - The Two Kings Tachibana/Honda
2. Bloodborne - Orphan of Kos
3. God of War - Sigrun (Challenge Mode)
Although I think God of War will probably win if I was playing on "Give Me God of War" difficulty.
If remasters counts, this fucker from Birth by Sleep
All fairness is thrown out of the window; most of his attacks leave you at 1 health, have absurd hit stun which will randomly be followed up by a move with just the perfect amount of start-up to kill you before you can move, he can randomly block mid-attack to heal a big chunk of health, and once you get him down to a certain amount of health he turns invisible and starts stacking abilities on top of each other. If you're looking at which one of them is harder in a straight up fight, it's Vanitas' armor, but purely by value of not being cheese-able, Unknown takes the cake.
All fairness is thrown out of the window; most of his attacks leave you at 1 health, have absurd hit stun which will randomly be followed up by a move with just the perfect amount of start-up to kill you before you can move, he can randomly block mid-attack to heal a big chunk of health, and once you get him down to a certain amount of health he turns invisible and starts stacking abilities on top of each other. If you're looking at which one of them is harder in a straight up fight, it's Vanitas' armor, but purely by value of not being cheese-able, Unknown takes the cake.
Got to go with Orphan of Kos. Granted, I was playing on New Game+, but I couldn't beat him.
Didn't have too much of an issue with Sigrun in God of War. Sure it took a good few tries to get her down, but I was basically getting her down to the last piece of her health bar from the very first attempt.
Didn't have too much of an issue with Sigrun in God of War. Sure it took a good few tries to get her down, but I was basically getting her down to the last piece of her health bar from the very first attempt.
I'd have to guess it's the Unlimited final boss of Crimson Clover World Ignition. Seems most likely.
Nice to see OoK only took 5 posts lol.
Easily my pick too. I personally wouldn't call BB easy either, but it's been pretty manageable and most bosses go down in a few tries, but I must've fought Orphan over 10 times on my last playthrough without getting even close to beating him.