Watergate is a big reason for that.When it comes to movies, I wasn't talking so much about influence but the fact that they are bleak, a lot of them go for a shock factor and wondering what social and political circumstances could be the reason for that.
Don't forget my man Mike Oldfield.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv_4sZCLlr0&ab_channel=Ummadawn
1973
Or monsieur Jarre
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSIMVnPA994&ab_channel=JeanMichelJarreVEVO
1977
Or your Blade Runner guy Vangelis... in 1975
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcgoNiM74oE&ab_channel=Vangelis-Topic
You can't negate the huge influence on instrumental, synth music these guys have even today. Heck, most music produce advancements we assume today are thanks to these guys.
Just to hit on the 'bleak' point rather than influential pop culture media examples again, as I said, I also felt a lot of 70s film/tv was bleak, and my memories of it are of faded pastel colours with a lot of orange and beige, walls stained with stale cigarette smoke, with an undertone of Cold War fears.Anyway, a lot of people got my post wrong, it seems. So let's try to make it as simple as possible:
A) Why was everything so bleak, cynical, and nihilistic in the 70s (music, films etc.)? This question maybe got lost somewhere in the first post. It's a genuine question that I'd like to know the answer to.
B) Is that the reason why the music and fashion from that decade rarely get referenced and have no direct influence on the music and fashion of today?
I am aware that there would be no hip-hop without disco etc. but the general sound from that era (punk, disco, psychedelic rock) isn't intertwined in the current pop cultural sound (and look, when it comes to fashion) like the sounds from the '80s and '90s are.
Hopefully, this makes it clear lol, I wasn't making a statement, I was only saying how it feels to me and wanted to get opinions from others. I was born in the 80s and have been a hip hop head since I was 5 (literally), so I'm obviously missing a lot of knowledge.
Also, I found a great article that mentions a lot of the stuff I've been trying to say just now:
Why Were the 1970s So… Weird?
Stephen Paul Miller calls the 1970s the uncanny decade—the “undecade.” Things were particularly weird in these years, which remain shrouded in America’s cultural memory, as if by a kind of sm…lithub.com
Scarfolk is a town in North West England that did not progress beyond 1979. Instead, the entire decade of the 1970s loops ad infinitum. Here in Scarfolk, pagan rituals blend seamlessly with science; hauntology is a compulsory subject at school, and everyone must be in bed by 8pm because they are perpetually running a slight fever. "Visit Scarfolk today. Our number one priority is keeping rabies at bay." For more information please reread.
There were two enormously successful blockbuster movies in recent years with extremely popular soundtracks made almost entirely of 70s pop music, right? I didn't imagine that? There was a talking tree in them I think.
Main reason I think one might conclude that the 70s have less pop culture nostalgia, other than simply it being older than the 80s/90s, is the 80s is when US media franchise building began in earnest. Star Wars, Transformers, GI Joe, all that crap that became multbillion dollar industries with characters and stories attached to them to sell toys. That's the norm now, but it was still a novel idea in the late 70s (which is why ol' George got to convince executives they weren't missing out if he got majority profits from Star Wars toys). But the 70s were still very influential, unless you come up with narrow categorization to prove that they weren't.
The myths that disco didn't age well, wasn't good, doesn't influence music today, etc. kill me. The people who hated on disco for decades now listen to pop music that is at times explicitly disco. Rock bands over the last few decades have had disco influences too.
There is also the argument that the "disco sucks" movement was largely fueled by homophobia and racism
ThisOP clearly doesn't listen to any R&B, rap, hip-hop, or EDM. The last one especially is practically a spawn of disco, and mainly died because the original disco scene was far too black and LGBT centered for white people to give a fuck.
The OP literally writes off disco and then immediately complains there weren't any big black musicians. It's absurd.
You started the thread with the assertion that the 70's have very little cultural influence. You didn't ask IF the 70's had little influence, you presented it as a given and asked WHY. Then, in your OP, you dismissed so much of the decade's influence. When people replied directly to your points in your post, you doubled down, by writing off anything posted. You also chose to ignore every post that did present examples of currently influential 70's culture.The only thing I presumed was that people will actually read the OP and not just look at the thread title and click on "post reply".
And I was wrong.
I'd argue Star Wars is more of an 80s thing, sure, it started in 1977, but that is already late '70s.
Serious question....since Star Wars began production in '76, and Lucas had obviously been working on it prior to that....but you're setting it as an '80s thing, does that mean you see no cultural influence from any band at Woodstock? No cultural influence from Hendrix or CCR or Grateful Dead or The Who? Or no cultural influence from the Summer of Love? Yes, that was the 60s, but it was the late 60s, so that makes it 70s for you...right?I'd argue Star Wars is more of an 80s thing, sure, it started in 1977, but that is already late '70s.
Hell, ask any modern musician who has their hand in composing music if the 70s were influential and they would all resoundingly reply with a "Yes".Ask any current drummer if disco didn't have an influence on modern music. Jesus Christ.
'Actually, Star Wars is an 80s film' is just wtf OP and shows a true lack of understanding in the changes that were happening in cinema in the 70s