Why does everyone seemingly keeps to be screwing the pooch around Henry Cavill?
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"Everyone seems to love Henry."
Where did you get this idea from?
He's not a draw, and I have no idea why he's still being talked about as if he's a draw.
There's a ton of these mid to low level white action guys. They aren't stars.
Where did you get this idea from?
He's not a draw, and I have no idea why he's still being talked about as if he's a draw.
There's a ton of these mid to low level white action guys. They aren't stars.
Yes this...watching The Tudors as it aired, his debut drew me to him immediate, he was very charismatic, cock-sure playboy type, but also changed as the character aged and relations strained. It put him on my radar from then on, well before The Witcher, DC stuff, or even The Immortals
He's a Warhammer 40K mega-nerd who is getting paid to executive produce and star in a Warhammer 40K cinematic universe on Amazon. He's basically getting a shot at his dream job, so I think his career is probably exactly where he wants it to be right now.
I dont know what happened to Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare. Guy Ritchie direction, stars on the cast, yet the movie simply didn't get a theatrical release in my country
Building a PC and being "our guy" nets you a hardcore Redditor fanbase and not much else
I think he's super charismatic and I don't think he's chosen enough roles or worked with the right people that really showcase it. He could have been an incredible Superman if Snyder wasn't such a self-serious grifter high on his own farts. I hope we get him working with Guy Ritchie more.
Side note but I love him as Sherlock in the Enola Holmes films.
Side note but I love him as Sherlock in the Enola Holmes films.
I don't dislike the guy or anything, I just don't find him much of a draw. He should do some more artsy projects to build up his cred instead of these action movies nobody has any attachment to. Get in some A24 movies or something.
I promise you this isn't a unique enough take to not be found elsewhere. 99% of Era takes aren't.
I don't think he's a bad actor personally, I just don't get the rally behind him still after all this time, what is this great potential that we're being denied that's been worth chance after chance after chance after chance.
I mean he seems to be doing just fine. Yes the superhero stuff didn't pan out as well as it really should have but he's been working consistently in both TV and film in some relatively high profile stuff.
It seems to me like the relative failure of his DCU stuff makes people think that he's not done well but he's done just as well as other actors in those kind of films. Look at Chris Evans, Knives Out aside I'd say that pretty much all of his output since Endgame has been pretty middling at best and I say that as a huge fan of the guy but no-one seems to be questioning hsi choices or popularity.
It seems to me like the relative failure of his DCU stuff makes people think that he's not done well but he's done just as well as other actors in those kind of films. Look at Chris Evans, Knives Out aside I'd say that pretty much all of his output since Endgame has been pretty middling at best and I say that as a huge fan of the guy but no-one seems to be questioning hsi choices or popularity.
Cavill is a good looking guy with minimal acting ability. He can shine in a more supporting role but absolutely cannot carry a film.
I'm not saying he's Oscar worthy or something like that but I feel like people (outside of ERA) agree on he's been a really good Superman and by far the best thing about The Witcher and good in Enola Holmes and Mission Impossible.
It's why I can't really say Cavill is a bad actor. He can act under the right role and director.
Every friends wife on FB seems to love this dude and as long as that's the case I'm assuming he will still be cast in roles.
TBF this is in response to a thread wondering why he's being underrated by the industry, so I think a natural reaction to that will come off sounding like you're saying he's overrated. Which to be fair, by a certain segment of the population, he is. FWIW I think he's had a couple of ok to decent roles but is otherwise largely forgettable. It does not feel surprising that he hasn't blown up into megastar, but he's clearly still getting work so that's fine?
Pretty much, Henry just feels like an odd subject for this kind of thing after all this time compared to say Ariana DeBose post Oscar win (also in Argylle if you can remember that).
He was a bit of a bully who only wanted to go as far as Ipswich. Where I wanted to see the world.
I liked him in his limited role in Stardust
Maybe, just maybe Henry needs to pick better projects. Obviously there is a luck component to this as well, but it's been a patern going back decades now.
And it's not like he's a starving actor either, he's doing fine.
And it's not like he's a starving actor either, he's doing fine.
His role in Enola is definitely more in his niche. Good screen presence for a supporting character.
Cavill is another good looking white dude in a field full of good looking white dudes, many of whom are better at choosing projects to boost themselves and having talent that Cavill lacks. He's by no means a bad actor but I personally find him rather wooden, even in roles that people seem to love him in like The Witcher. He is an outspoken nerd though so he's got his more hardcore "he's like us" fans which colors the conversation online.
He has very good PR.
Back when the Snyder DCU was alive, I think the press on him wasn't that great. Most online talk was geeks angry at how his movies ruined Superman.
Then he started pandering to the same audience that hated him, lots of people champion him as "one of us", and a buff handsome sex symbol having nerdy hobbies is cute even for people who don't know what Warhammer is.
Back when the Snyder DCU was alive, I think the press on him wasn't that great. Most online talk was geeks angry at how his movies ruined Superman.
Then he started pandering to the same audience that hated him, lots of people champion him as "one of us", and a buff handsome sex symbol having nerdy hobbies is cute even for people who don't know what Warhammer is.
He may not be the most talented actor, but he seems easy to work with and that can be enough to have a healthy career.
He just needs his "Deadpool" moment, if i were Rian Johnson i would use it on Knives Out 3 and maybe write a character built upon Cavill's own nerdiness.
He just needs his "Deadpool" moment, if i were Rian Johnson i would use it on Knives Out 3 and maybe write a character built upon Cavill's own nerdiness.
Because he's a very wooden actor with very limited screen presence?
The problem is you're starting from a position of "Cavill is very popular actor, so therefore it's weird that..." which simply isn't true.
Cavill is popular in specific, niche internet communities due to his nerd cred, but no one in the real world really knows or cares about him. He's not a "name".
The problem is you're starting from a position of "Cavill is very popular actor, so therefore it's weird that..." which simply isn't true.
Cavill is popular in specific, niche internet communities due to his nerd cred, but no one in the real world really knows or cares about him. He's not a "name".
His PR team is insane. They managed to convince thousands of people that he walked away from Witcher because they weren't staying close enough to the books and no one even questions it.
Whatever he's paying them isn't enough. Masterful spin.
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I question it all the time, but clearly I'm in the minority lol
But yea, supremely amusing how that stuck as opposed to the whole 2nd chance at Superman thing not working out
he could have nailed superman with the right script. and I like his witcher portrayal. but he's really not a leading man in big blockbuster films
Maybe he's not good to work with and that's got around. I've heard this for a long time. I even heard that he's kind of a manosphere right wing guy. Who knows I think it's way more than just having a bad agent or making bad role choices. I genuinely don't think he's offered much.
That is a superb suggestion
Supporting role, and I think he does quirk / funny better than the heavy stuff he is often given.
I've never seen Cavill in a role where I can say he nailed a performance. I don't think he's bad (might be bad)
I think he needs to be in more romance movies or something. I don't know. Movies that just rely on his looks and personality rather than his acting? He's still entertaining to watch…
He is rumored for an MCU role so that might be a good fit for him. Honestly I just think he was a bit unlucky by being cast in the DCU which didn't take off as expected.