Why does Obi-Wan not recognize 3PO and R2?
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I always saw it as him recognizing the droids but pretending not to. His "I don't recall owning any droids" would be him being snarky towards R2D2's excuse to locate him without tipping off Luke, which is very in character for Obi-Wan. If Luke realized that these droids had been around Obi-Wan back when Anakin was alive, he might ask them all kinds of questions that were better left unanswered at that point. R2D2 would probably be of the same opinion, while C3P0 would be completely oblivious.
There's also the fact that Anakin built C3P0, which would add a load of emotional baggage for Luke.
There's also the fact that Anakin built C3P0, which would add a load of emotional baggage for Luke.
To be fair it had been like 23 years since they'd seen him, and he was a completely different colour back then. It's pretty reasonable that they wouldn't recognize him as the same droid.
I find Obi-Wan and R2 a little more difficult to explain in-universe given they fought together for years in multiple battles in the Clone Wars. I suppose he could just think all R2 units are pretty much the same in his mind.
This has always been in my take. Not like he's always up front about things.
I'm going to give George a pass here.
As a kid I always suspected Ben based on that look on his face when he said he doesn't remember owning any droids. Taken post prequels, you can also hear him almost speaking directly to R2 like they're sharing a secret.
Obi was likely thinking, "You know I never owned you, you belonged to Amidala and Anakin, why would you tell the kid this? Also, wasn't your memory wiped? How much do you remember?"
As a kid I always suspected Ben based on that look on his face when he said he doesn't remember owning any droids. Taken post prequels, you can also hear him almost speaking directly to R2 like they're sharing a secret.
Obi was likely thinking, "You know I never owned you, you belonged to Amidala and Anakin, why would you tell the kid this? Also, wasn't your memory wiped? How much do you remember?"
I like to think Obi Wan did recognise R2 despite his initial denial.
The little look and nod Obi Wan and R2 give each other during Leia's message sell it to me:
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The little look and nod Obi Wan and R2 give each other during Leia's message sell it to me:
A New Hope Luke talks with Obi-Wan/The Old Republic
Before the dark times. Before the Empire
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They kinda are. And everyone here knows it._thats-not-how-the-force-works-han-solo-scene-hd-star-wars-the-force-awakens-small.gif)
That's not how prequels works!!
That's not a high bar to clear.
I can wake up each day and the Scale of "Great Star Wars" Movies can range from 1-10.
...but IX is never on there.
Bad writing.
It always makes me very confused when people criticize the sequel trilogy for not being planned out from the beginning as if Star Wars was ever planned out by the beginning.
Hell, out of the three trilogies, the one that was planned out the most is the worst one.
It always makes me very confused when people criticize the sequel trilogy for not being planned out from the beginning as if Star Wars was ever planned out by the beginning.
Hell, out of the three trilogies, the one that was planned out the most is the worst one.
It's been a while since I've seen it but I generally agree: Solo is a pretty great blockbuster. It has some questionable moments (such as completely unnecessary origin of his name) but is generally a very fun blockbuster with a very good cast.
The most down to earth answer is that the prequels were written much later, but there's not much of an inconsistency there. Obi Wan never owned 3P0 or R2-D2 and he doesn't really care about droids to the point of memorizing who those two specific droids out of thousands of other droids are. They're just appliances to him.
Obi-Wan was a lying, manipulative old prick. This was an unfortunate consequence of his statements in ep 4 not lining up with the revelations of ep 5, but it's addressed a bit with Kenobi's bullshit "from another point of view" cop-out.
He absolutely knew R2, very goddamn well in fact throughout the Clone Wars series. But then you have to ask why R2 never said anything because iirc he didn't have his memory wiped like C3PO did. R2 spent YEARS with Anakin and watched Luke's birth for christ-sakes
He absolutely knew R2, very goddamn well in fact throughout the Clone Wars series. But then you have to ask why R2 never said anything because iirc he didn't have his memory wiped like C3PO did. R2 spent YEARS with Anakin and watched Luke's birth for christ-sakes
It is just hilarious to me that this droid was built by the hands of Owen's stepbrother, Darth Vader, worked on the homestead for at least a year, and even attended the funeral of Owen's stepmother... and there's not even a hint of recognition 23 years later. I guess it only works because Threepio never introduced himself to Owen in ANH.
In canon, Obi Wan definitely recognizes R2. I doubt that's how Alec Guinness intended to play it, but you have to assume he knew the droids and pretended he didn't... the whole narrative is conjoined with Anakin, which we know he's concealing from Luke.
Almost like Darth Vader didn't became Anakin until at least haflway thorough empire strikes back
Lol
So someone's parent actually named their kid Darth and its why sith names sound more obviously evil afterwards
Clone Wars at least had Obi wan not give a shit about droids and is baffled why Anakin so you can say he didn't care enough to remember him considering he thinks about Droids the same way people think about phones and computers
The real answer is yes they originally were just leia droids
Because after all those years of living on Tatooine, enough sand has entered through the ears to weigh down on the brain, causing him to forget a specific droid that looks exactly like a million other droids.
I also admit Solo is the only Star Wars movie I really enjoyed since that other Solo flick , Empire Strikes Back.
Probably worth pointing out that in ANH, Obi-Wan understands droid beeps and Luke doesn't yet.
For all we know, R2 could be sqawking out him "hey daddy-o, been a while... hey I got a message for you from Bail, but let's play it cool in front of the kid, right?"
For all we know, R2 could be sqawking out him "hey daddy-o, been a while... hey I got a message for you from Bail, but let's play it cool in front of the kid, right?"
Didn't they get their memories erased in order to create less plot holes
By the way everyone THIS IS CANON:
(From the absolutely canon short novel "The Princess, The Scoundrel, and The Farm Boy" which was published in 2015, after the Disney acquisition/canon reset... this scene is during Luke's training session on the Falcon in ANH)
"Han was about to turn back to lock up the circuit panel when he saw the fossil wave the droid over. Luke had a look of intense concentration on his face as he pivoted around and around in a circle, lifting his lightsaber this way, that way, clearly lost in his own world.
The R2 unit moved to Ben's side as if it were his faithful pet — an image that was further reinforced by the old man's stroking a hand over its domed head.
"It's good to fly with you again, my old friend," the old man said, so softly Han wasn't sure he had heard him right."
... so boom, there you go. It's specifically in-fiction canon that Obi-Wan was bullshitting when he pretended no to recognize R2.
(From the absolutely canon short novel "The Princess, The Scoundrel, and The Farm Boy" which was published in 2015, after the Disney acquisition/canon reset... this scene is during Luke's training session on the Falcon in ANH)
"Han was about to turn back to lock up the circuit panel when he saw the fossil wave the droid over. Luke had a look of intense concentration on his face as he pivoted around and around in a circle, lifting his lightsaber this way, that way, clearly lost in his own world.
The R2 unit moved to Ben's side as if it were his faithful pet — an image that was further reinforced by the old man's stroking a hand over its domed head.
"It's good to fly with you again, my old friend," the old man said, so softly Han wasn't sure he had heard him right."
... so boom, there you go. It's specifically in-fiction canon that Obi-Wan was bullshitting when he pretended no to recognize R2.
