Why is there Nazi shit in your fucking game @StateOfDecay

[Deleted member 26156]

Twitter user @Worthless_Bums was live-tweeting their playthrough of the Microsoft-published game State of Decay 2, when he discovered that one of the traits in the game, "Punched Nazis" is a NEGATIVE trait, making your character irritable.



7 month old Reddit post showing the trait being in the game, with the same negative effects:



He's tried many times over the past few week or so to get the attention of the State of Decay Twitter account, or any other Microsoft PR account, but well...



The official Twitter ended up blocking him without any kind of response. Apparently there were also two devs actively engaging with his thread until the nazi shit was brought up:



Not to mention, they also released an update for the game today... and didn't change it of course.

https://twitter.com/Worthless_Bums/status/1364745715570806785?s=20

What the actual fuck Undead Labs???????

 

[Admiral Woofington]

They forgot the punctuation.

Punched? Nazis!

 

[Caiusto]

From the guys who had dicks on their game and didn't knew.

 

[Corgi]

This is poor communication. They could have literally just upfront said "our fault, we'll fix it" and been on their way.. Hopefully they explain what's going on and why they've done this.

 

[An Army of Bees]

Gross and disappointing. A bad look for Undead Labs and Microsoft Game Studios team. Hopefully someone sees this and punches whatever Nazi put it there.

 

[Zips]

From the guys who had dicks on their game and didn't knew.

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Wait. What? I don't remember that one. I need to look this up.

Edit: Oh wow... State of Decay contractor filled game with hidden dongs | PC Gamer

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

I can't be the only one who misread/misinterpreted this at first and thought the trait meant that your character was a Nazi that got punched and not someone who punched deserving scumbags...

 

[lupinko]

Maybe the devs are probably Nazis or Nazi sympathizers, so who knows.

 

[Caiusto]

Wait. What? I don't remember that one. I need to look this up.

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Yep. State Of Decay Was Secretly Full Of Penises

 

[ShogunRaichu]

Jesus what a weird pretzel-y way to make sure nazis look good. quite a shame.

 

[Lokoline]

And they blocked him too, wtf?

 

[pg2g]

Fix it, Phil.

 

[texhnolyze]

Gross.

And why are there nazis in State of Decay 2 in the first place, isn't it supposed to be a zombie game?

 

[Vibbon]

oh very cool. Blocked by the dev and official game Twitter. This ain't a good look, amigo.

 

[TreeMePls]

From the publisher who is fine working with a known racist, I am shocked

 

[spam musubi]

Wow, this is so specific too. Someone actually had to program that in, it went through QA etc.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

That's an obvious Green Room reference. I couldn't tell you why the gameplay trait is the way it is.

 

[lucebuce]

Gross.

And why are there nazis in State of Decay 2 in the first place, isn't it supposed to be a zombie game?

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It's a randomly selected trait for the characters you can play as. Some are positive traits that add to skills, some are negative traits that reduce certain skills or effectiveness but each trait has a name and a "backstory". Like clumsy or Green-thumbed or... Punched Nazis as a negative trait in this instance.

 

[sredgrin]

Gross.

And why are there nazis in State of Decay 2 in the first place, isn't it supposed to be a zombie game?

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There aren't. It's just the text, a reference to punching nazi memes.

 

[Deleted member 21709]

What the fuck.

 

[MistahS]

Oooof. That is extremely shitty. And they blocked them too. Wow. Can't wait to see how they try and maneuver through this if it gets more traction.

 

[Caiusto]

Btw, I think calling this "nazi shit" is quite the stretch.

 

[Heliex]

Xbox will absolutely not care. theyre more than happy sweeping this under the rug as they do.

 

[Deleted member 64609]

Thats a no-win situation for the person running the official accounts. Blocking is a huge mistake though.

When he says "devs" does he meant actual devs or the SNS account?

 

[Unicorn]

Thats a no-win situation for the person running the official accounts. Blocking is a huge mistake though.

When he says "devs" does he meant actual devs or the SNS account?

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Probably individual devs liking him installing the game and posting initial positive impressions then no feedback to their posts after punching nazi trait found.

 

[HustleBun]

That twitter thread is making the situation a little hard to follow.

There is a line of text in-game about the character having punched nazis, thus their stats went down. OP and twitter user is also saying "there is nazi shit in the game". Is the line of text about punching nazis the "nazi shit" that OP is referring to?

And there's a dirtbag in the reddit screen claiming "people who want to punch nazis are SJWS and Antifa"- is that a dev?

 

[Deleted member 21709]

Thats a no-win situation for the person running the official accounts. Blocking is a huge mistake though.

When he says "devs" does he meant actual devs or the SNS account?

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There would be an easy 'win' here if they just owned up to it and patched it out, whilst getting rid of whoever put it in.

 

[Brrandon]

I feel like this is being overblown a bit?? Like the text description makes it out to be a good thing that you punch nazis, and it is, but it would be an easy fix to just make it a positive trait? Defo not cool that the devs blocked him though. The negative effect is definitely a bad decision but its a bit of an exaggeration to say the game has "Nazi shit" based off of just it.

 

[Dr. Monkey]

I'm really shocked to see this. Several of their lead dudes have spoken at length on progressive issues, sometimes clumsily, but they seem like good dudes from what I've seen.


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I feel like this is being overblown a bit?? Like the text description makes it out to be a good thing that you punch nazis, and it is, but it would be an easy fix to just make it a positive trait? Defo not cool that the devs blocked him though.

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Yeah, the text makes it seem positive but irritable is shitty in game. +1 to Green Room ref but why is it negative??

 

[Gay Bowser]

Punching nazis is always a good thing. It's the best way to deal with nazis. If nazis feel like they can be nazis without being punched, if the prevailing attitude is that being a nazi is just someone's political preference that should be "respected," that's how you end up with a NAZI FUCKING COUNTRY.

Punching nazis should not be seen as a negative. Ever.

And blocking him on Twitter for pointing it out is a really bad look. The absolute least they could do is a noncommittal "thanks for your feedback" thing.

Clean house, XGS.

 

[ToadPacShakur]

Ok...so...how I'm interpreting it is that the character is just irritable towards other people, which is the negative trait...and the nazi punching backstory is just that..a story, showing an example of when his irritability towards people came out .. it's a leap to say that they are saying punching Nazis is bad

which, if that's how the devs get it I can see why they blocked the user who was flooding their Twitter feed

 

[Beth Cyra]

Btw, I think calling this "nazi shit" is quite the stretch.

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The fact it is seen as a negative trait in game is certainly side eye worthy.

 

[SpottieO]

I'm having a hard time following this and maybe I don't get what the problem is. Because it drops your stat saying you're irritable?

 

[Deleted member 26156]

That twitter thread is making the situation a little hard to follow.

There is a line of text in-game about the character having punched nazis, thus their stats went down. OP and twitter user is also saying "there is nazi shit in the game". Is the line of text about punching nazis the "nazi shit" that OP is referring to?

And there's a dirtbag in the reddit screen claiming "people who want to punch nazis are SJWS and Antifa"- is that a dev?

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Guy finds game making "punched nazis" a bad trait --> Calls out game and developer Twitter accounts about what's up with that --> Gets blocked by both of them with zero response --> Patch goes out for the game a couple of hours ago without changing the Nazi stuff

Reddit post is just proof the Nazi stuff has been in there for a while, and has been noticed by other people. The dirtbag there is just some random shithead.

 

[Cyanity]

Based on the devs blocking that guy on Twitter without acknowledging the issue at all, I'm gonna go with "the devs are nazi fucks"

 

[Caiusto]

The fact it is seen as a negative trait in game is certainly side eye worthy.

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Yeah, but the description clearly says punching nazis it is a good thing to do. They could've just said "oops, sorry, that was a mistake" and they didn't, which is the bad thing here, but this entire thing seems so overblown. I don't think he got blocked for pointing out this, probably for flooding them seeing how overracted the entire thing is.

 

[Kalentan]

Based on the devs blocking that guy on Twitter without acknowledging the issue at all, I'm gonna go with "the devs are nazi fucks"

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Yeah...

Like it would have been one thing for them to be: "Oh shit, sorry, that was a mistake".

But to instead go radio silent is not a good look at all.

 

[Splader]

Feels like the trait is terribly written. I'm reading it as they're so irritable that they punched a nazi. The negative trait being that they punched someone, not that punching a nazi is bad. Really bad look that they blocked the person though. Let's see what the devs say tomorrow.

 

[Deleted member 45460]

Based on the devs blocking that guy on Twitter without acknowledging the issue at all, I'm gonna go with "the devs are nazi fucks"

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I have to say, this seems like a major overreaction. An entire dev studio are all nazis now because the backstory to a random trait is "an irritable guy punched some nazis in a club". I'd need to know exactly why they blocked him before ever reaching that insane of a conclusion.

 

[DeoGame]

There are 1500 character traits in State of Decay 2. Of those 1500, 28 others share the same effect as Punched Nazis. They are:

Anarchist

Authoritarian

Burly

Distrusts Outsiders

Extremely Competitive

Former Activist B (The world was full of sheep before the outbreak. Filling it with zombies hasn't changed much.)

Fought in the Pits

Fussy

Hated The Boss

Hates Trespassers

Insular

Longsuffering Martyr

Machiavellian

Needs Alone Time

Needs Quiet Time

Overconfident

Panicky

Pedantic

Rebellious As A Teen

Sarcastic

Snarky

Sociopathic Vibe

Strict

Stubborn

Surly

Trusts No One

Vain

Whistleblower.

Now, personally I think the intent here may have been "doesn't put up with other people's shit" in a neutral connotation like some of these, as the worst among these (Vain, Sociopathic, etc.) actually have worse debuffs. Though idk, could also be a troll in the midst. There are 1500+ personality characteristics.

Undead Labs does a lot of social good, so this doesn't strike me as company wide. That said, they should probably patch it out, and while I suspect they blocked just to keep the conversation on the game, it just makes things way worse.

 

[Deleted member 21709]

Btw, I think calling this "nazi shit" is quite the stretch.

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Why?

The game thinks punching Nazi's is a negative trait.

 

[HelloItsPulse]

Technically, "Punched Nazis" isn't a negative character trait, nowhere in the game does it list it as such. Sure, It has a negative effect attached to it, but "Irritable towards other people" isn't exactly a game changing stat in State of Decay anyway. It looks like someone wanted Punched Nazis to be a character trait, and had to figure out an appropriate effect that wouldn't do much to alter gameplay. A real nazi or nazi sympathizer isn't going to shed light on "punching nazis".

Of course, I have no idea what the developers were actually thinking, this is just my interpretation of the trait. I hope this is just an unfortunate accident and not something made with malicious intent.

 

[ToadPacShakur]

Why?

The game thinks punching Nazi's is a negative trait.

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jesus christ, no lol...

THE TRAIT IS THAT THE CHARACTER IS IRRITABLE

the Nazi-punching story was just an example of that character's trait coming out.

Like "hey, you can have this dude in your party, but be careful, he's a hothead. took on a whole group of Nazi's once"

I'm amazed, but not surprised, at how it's being spun

 

[Deleted member 64609]

There would be an easy 'win' here if they just owned up to it and patched it out, whilst getting rid of whoever put it in.

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I'd be imagine the person running the account isn't in a position to do either.

Even in the case of them referring the issue to whoever actually could handle it, acting on it would take some time and approvals.

 

[Splader]

Why?

The game thinks punching Nazi's is a negative trait.

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Calling this "nazi shit" is one thing.

Calling the developers of this game nazis or nazi sympathizers is another.

 

[Darkwing-Buck]

Isn't this game super RNG heavy? Like is the punching nazi's trait always a negative trait in the game?

That said, blocking him is a really bad look on their part.

This seems easily fixable unless they really got some Nazi fucks.

 

[Order]

Calling this "nazi shit" is one thing.

Calling the developers of this game nazis or nazi sympathizers is another.

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The nazi shit didn't just appear out of thin air

 

[Deleted member 21709]

jesus christ, no lol...

THE TRAIT IS THAT THE CHARACTER IS IRRITABLE

the Nazi-punching story was just an example of that character's trait coming out.

Like "hey, you can have this dude in your party, but be careful, he's a hothead. took on a whole group of Nazi's once"

I'm amazed, but not surprised, at how it's being spun

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Nope.

I'd be imagine the person running the account isn't in a position to do either.

Even in the case of them referring the issue to whoever actually could handle it, acting on it would take some time and approvals.

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Blocking that Twitter user is the worst move they could have made though.

 

[Montresor]

Why?

The game thinks punching Nazi's is a negative trait.

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Read the posts in this thread from other forum members. What you're doing is taking the tweets from the OP and taking them at face value without thinking critically. Look at the actual picture in the tweet. All it says is "irritable" under to "punched nazis". My mind is blown that this being interpreted as if the developers (or even a developer) is a nazi sympathizer.

 

[Asriel]

This is a reach.