Yes, it is. He knows consoles won't be able to achieve 4K/60 most of the time, let alone with raytracing.
Will current PC GPUs get obsolete in next gen games?
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Bookmark my post. Multiple reliable insider like Klee are pointing to 12-13TF machines.
Get ready to upgrade your PC. It's going to be outdated soon.
Cringe.
AMD TFs aren't the same as NVIDIA TFs. Enjoy being let down.
This is mindnumbing to read, I feel sorrier for the likes of Dictator who's more knowledgeable about this shit.
I just don't understand how amd can't deliver something on par with 2080 and 2080 ti on pc market and will delivery in a console.... And for $499... I know right magic. They always had this secret power were just waiting for consoles... And with their horrendous tdp. A 5700 xt consumes more than a 2080.
All we know is console apus are 7nm and not 7nm+ so they are using rdna1 with features from rdna2( amd rt solution).
You really haven't been paying much attention son.
Things have changed significantly with RDNA, the gap has closed significantly.
PS5 and XSX are rocking 12-13TF, HW-accelerated RT, VRS and fast SSDs.
Most PC-rigs atm will be playing next-gen games with sub-console graphical quality.
Bookmark my post. You'll be eating crow in February :)
See you in the new year my friend :)
PC Gaming dying again. What's new? Died more times than Deadpool.
Yes they are man. They are high end hardware's for 499. The magic that only consoles can delivery and all that with a tdp under 250w.
Nah, I'll make sure to avoid your idiotic comments in future 👍
Yes, even high end PCs will be outdated within the next 5 years when devs start pushing PC graphics above what the consoles can achieve.
But early next gen titles probably wont pose too much of a problem.
A whole lot of kool-aid.
This thread is going to be legendary come next year. I'm going to quote a lot of posts in my revenge ;)
Hope you remember if / when a 2070 is on par / better than next gen consoles.
They will likely use an exclusive game(s) as evidence that the "consoles punch above their weight".
We lose so many messageboard accounts to pre-launch over-hype. Please be careful.
This guy probably will not be between us on ps5 reveal lol
People buying into the marketing hype a bit too much. Without completely knowing about the size, heat and power limitations
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I think this console generation will finally close the gap with PCs a good deal.
The addition of SSD-based storage and sizeable upgrade in cpus and video card tech will be formidable. The current Xbox One X can realistically run some titles at native 4K with decent bells and whistles. Imagine even more overhead and drastically faster loading. If you are the type of person who just wants to hit go on games, whether they are PC or consoles, you're in for a treat.
PC games will always have a better suite of options and mods, but consoles will have more focused optimization. If Xbox costs about 500 dollars, you're getting a stupid value proposition compared to a PC that can achieve the same settings. My current rig cost about 2 grand and I fully expect a lot of software on next-gen consoles to run 4K stuff more efficiently than my 1080ti/3700x can.
The addition of SSD-based storage and sizeable upgrade in cpus and video card tech will be formidable. The current Xbox One X can realistically run some titles at native 4K with decent bells and whistles. Imagine even more overhead and drastically faster loading. If you are the type of person who just wants to hit go on games, whether they are PC or consoles, you're in for a treat.
PC games will always have a better suite of options and mods, but consoles will have more focused optimization. If Xbox costs about 500 dollars, you're getting a stupid value proposition compared to a PC that can achieve the same settings. My current rig cost about 2 grand and I fully expect a lot of software on next-gen consoles to run 4K stuff more efficiently than my 1080ti/3700x can.
I mean, I dont get why console gamers have to be so insecure about the console performance. It is obvious nowadays why consoles which mostly use slightly modified market parts and architecture and target the mainstream audience with a closed platform at a very good price will not be able to compete with the "hardcore" all expenses audience.
We just need to be happy that this gen jump seems to be quite significant and that they did not cheap out in CPU like last gen.
I was hoping I didn't need to specify sarcasm, but I guess that's on me
It's always so funny listening to predictions about console power
I mean no doubt they'll be a great value, but all those Tweets in 2013 about like "1080p. 60 FPS. Get used to hearing that a lot this generation" and lo and behold most games wind up running at 30 with moderate graphical quality.
It's like some people just do not get economic and physical limitations of tech. Can't just magically conjure up a $2000 gaming rig and turn it into a $499 home console that's a quarter of the size and consumes a third of the power.
Unless Nvidia decides to be utterly stupid again with pricing then there's no way consoles are getting close to high-end rigs. By the time they launch next year Nvidia's 3xxx series will be out.
Even then it will be gimped compared to the Series X running it at 8K120fps.
When games are running at native 4K at 60FPS or higher on consoles with graphics settings comparable to high or ultra PC graphics settings, then we can say the gap is closed.
But the biggest issues with consoles are price and power. They can't price consoles too high, so that means they need to cut back on components. On top of that, they have weaker power supplies which means the components in the consoles can't run at the same clock speeds as PC. Remember when the 360 launched and it had that massive power brick and everyone lost their mind?
I don't doubt that next-gen will be a big boost in power, but to say that anything less than a RTX 2080 will all of a sudden be obsolete is ignorance. I'm using a GTX 980, which came out five years ago, and I can run AAA games just fine at 1440p.
But the biggest issues with consoles are price and power. They can't price consoles too high, so that means they need to cut back on components. On top of that, they have weaker power supplies which means the components in the consoles can't run at the same clock speeds as PC. Remember when the 360 launched and it had that massive power brick and everyone lost their mind?
I don't doubt that next-gen will be a big boost in power, but to say that anything less than a RTX 2080 will all of a sudden be obsolete is ignorance. I'm using a GTX 980, which came out five years ago, and I can run AAA games just fine at 1440p.
Hopefully next gen GPUs are actually worthwhile to jump on as well.
Oh I knew yours was sarcasm, but it's a good microcosm of how things get around here with new gens
Doubt you're gonna get that framerate with full RT. RT gonna be a huge bottleneck with higher framerates for awhile.