EDIT: Not really sure why people are acting like I think buying a PS4 at all is not worth it. I'm just getting increasingly frustrated with how small of an upgrade the Pro is compared to the Xbox One X. I know it has the games, but if I was just getting it for those games, given the choice now, I'd probably stick with a vanilla PS4. Comments like "nah I don't care about specs; just games" are irrelevant to the thread since it's specifically about console feature sets.
I should apologize for the badly worded title since the sentiment isn't explicitly about regretting getting it.
This would have been a better way to phrase the title. I convinced myself the Pro wasn't half assed, and now there's no denying it.
[Original OP]
Given I was not able to get a PS4 until earlier this year, it seemed like the obvious solution was to get the better version. I went all in. 2TB SSHD, new headset, and of course the Pro. As soon as HDR 4K monitors become reasonably priced, I'll be getting one so I can finally sit down and play Horizon, Ratchet and Clank, TLOU, GoW and eventually Spiderman in their full glory.
The reason I list those games is because I don't totally regret the PS4 Pro. It clearly has some benefits, and I know those games are going to look and play great, and anything to reduce load times is welcome for me.
I think it's also important to note that yes, it's a given. The Xbox One X coming out a year later and being $100 more means it will be more powerful. It will be closer to true 4K and often full 4K on some games. I can accept checker-boarding as a compromise. I don't any disillusions about the power.
I do have issue with the feature-set. The Xbox One X at launch has:
1. Dramatic improvement in performance from framerate to load times in all Xbox One games (And correct me if I'm wrong, but are the PS4 load time improvements not quite as good? Would like to know for sure). Microsoft went the extra mile and made sure literally every xbox game works with these improvements. Yes the amount of PS4 games that break in boost mode is small, but that amount of care is telling for me.
2. Forced 16AF (something that is big for me personally, and it benefits all 1080p users)
3. Downsampling on all games. No TLG or TLOU nonsense. Again this benefits all 1080p users (someone correct me if I'm wrong here).
4. Not only support for BC games, but some OG and Xbox 360 games get 4K patches themselves (is this precedented in consoles to this degree? I didn't even know some of these games could run at 4K without crashing. Viva Pinata 4K patch pls)
5. UHD Blu-ray player
6. Variable Refresh Rate, despite that right now being kind of niche on console. Microsoft just adds it because it's awesome.
7. [EDIT] Xbox One X is quieter than the OG Xbox One even. The PS4 Pro is just about as loud. If you are concerned about noise on xbox, you're not making a compromise with the X. With the Pro you are since you could get the quieter Slim.
8. [EDIT2] The X will soon support 1440p. Again. Maybe not necessary, but no reason the Pro couldn't do this.
9. I think a few other things I forgot.
All of these are things the PS4 Pro could have and should have included. They did get boost mode, but that wasn't even at launch, but I think the realized without it the PS4 Pro would be a pretty poor purchase for most people. and it's already a niche purchase. I can forgive some things like no VRR (who expected that?), but all of them?. Not having downsampling at a system level just pisses me off. They acted like this would be worth it to 1080p users. As a 1080p users, I can pretty confidently say it really isn't. Not worth the extra $100. Yeah, Nier Automata is 1080p instead of 900p, and Bloodborne performs slightly better. For a 4K user? Yeah, if you have the cash and still don't have a PS4, I can recommend it sure I guess. Otherwise? Ehhhhhhhhhhhh
I dunno. I'm super conflicted right now. I've enjoyed my time with the Pro for sure, but that nagging buyer's remorse is now just full-blown frustration at how on the ball Microsoft seems with the X. For me the overall feeling is, the PS4 Pro was pretty much as ehh-okay-that's-nice-I-guess as I expected. Everything Microsoft is doing is completely out of left field in a good way. 4K OG Xbox games? Oh...Oh! I...didn't even know they could do that. Sign me up!
EDIT: TL;DR:
Anyway, thoughts?
I should apologize for the badly worded title since the sentiment isn't explicitly about regretting getting it.
This would have been a better way to phrase the title. I convinced myself the Pro wasn't half assed, and now there's no denying it.
[Original OP]
Given I was not able to get a PS4 until earlier this year, it seemed like the obvious solution was to get the better version. I went all in. 2TB SSHD, new headset, and of course the Pro. As soon as HDR 4K monitors become reasonably priced, I'll be getting one so I can finally sit down and play Horizon, Ratchet and Clank, TLOU, GoW and eventually Spiderman in their full glory.
The reason I list those games is because I don't totally regret the PS4 Pro. It clearly has some benefits, and I know those games are going to look and play great, and anything to reduce load times is welcome for me.
I think it's also important to note that yes, it's a given. The Xbox One X coming out a year later and being $100 more means it will be more powerful. It will be closer to true 4K and often full 4K on some games. I can accept checker-boarding as a compromise. I don't any disillusions about the power.
I do have issue with the feature-set. The Xbox One X at launch has:
1. Dramatic improvement in performance from framerate to load times in all Xbox One games (And correct me if I'm wrong, but are the PS4 load time improvements not quite as good? Would like to know for sure). Microsoft went the extra mile and made sure literally every xbox game works with these improvements. Yes the amount of PS4 games that break in boost mode is small, but that amount of care is telling for me.
2. Forced 16AF (something that is big for me personally, and it benefits all 1080p users)
3. Downsampling on all games. No TLG or TLOU nonsense. Again this benefits all 1080p users (someone correct me if I'm wrong here).
4. Not only support for BC games, but some OG and Xbox 360 games get 4K patches themselves (is this precedented in consoles to this degree? I didn't even know some of these games could run at 4K without crashing. Viva Pinata 4K patch pls)
5. UHD Blu-ray player
6. Variable Refresh Rate, despite that right now being kind of niche on console. Microsoft just adds it because it's awesome.
7. [EDIT] Xbox One X is quieter than the OG Xbox One even. The PS4 Pro is just about as loud. If you are concerned about noise on xbox, you're not making a compromise with the X. With the Pro you are since you could get the quieter Slim.
8. [EDIT2] The X will soon support 1440p. Again. Maybe not necessary, but no reason the Pro couldn't do this.
9. I think a few other things I forgot.
All of these are things the PS4 Pro could have and should have included. They did get boost mode, but that wasn't even at launch, but I think the realized without it the PS4 Pro would be a pretty poor purchase for most people. and it's already a niche purchase. I can forgive some things like no VRR (who expected that?), but all of them?. Not having downsampling at a system level just pisses me off. They acted like this would be worth it to 1080p users. As a 1080p users, I can pretty confidently say it really isn't. Not worth the extra $100. Yeah, Nier Automata is 1080p instead of 900p, and Bloodborne performs slightly better. For a 4K user? Yeah, if you have the cash and still don't have a PS4, I can recommend it sure I guess. Otherwise? Ehhhhhhhhhhhh
I dunno. I'm super conflicted right now. I've enjoyed my time with the Pro for sure, but that nagging buyer's remorse is now just full-blown frustration at how on the ball Microsoft seems with the X. For me the overall feeling is, the PS4 Pro was pretty much as ehh-okay-that's-nice-I-guess as I expected. Everything Microsoft is doing is completely out of left field in a good way. 4K OG Xbox games? Oh...Oh! I...didn't even know they could do that. Sign me up!
EDIT: TL;DR:
Anyway, thoughts?
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