Thinking back on Infinity War, would the original Avengers team really have been able to be Thanos on Earth if he had all the infinity stones. Thor would still have his cockiness he showed in the film, Hulk would be out but who knows how effective he would be based on the beginning and Tony and Steve together still maybe wouldn't have been enough to take him on. Same with Black Widow as she didn't do much combat against his children and we don't know Hawkeye's strength. What does Era think?
I don't think so. Part of the story arc is showing how they've grown both as heroes and as a team. The biggest message, to me, is that they're more as a team than they ever were as individuals.
Considering how they almost beat him until Star Lord fucked it up, sure.
As long as you maintain character growth and the only thing that change was them not splintering into differing factions during Civil War, then yeah, they would've stood a chance or possibly even won.
Dude, did you even watch the movie? Hulk got his ass handed to him without the stones, and the same with Thor before his huge powerup. The rest of them couldn't do anything.
It actually wasn't regenerating armor so much as it was redistributable armor. So when one portion of the armor was damaged or taken out (for example, his face mask), the suit has to use nano-material from other parts of the suit to rebuild it. This is why you see Tony redirect armor from his leg to his left arm when he needs a second blaster (leaving his leg exposed), and later when wants to create the blade he redirects armor from his left arm to his right (leaving his left arm exposed). It's really well done in my opinion.
HELL no. Thanos would've wiped the floor with them. He didn't need any stones to beat Hulk in IW. Cap would get beat just like he did in IW. BW and Hawkeye obviously don't stand a chance. Iron Man's new armor makes his old armor look like a Model T and it barely did shit.
Thor would last the longest but with all the stones I'm pretty sure Thanos wouldn't have too much of a problem.
Considering how they almost beat him until Star Lord fucked it up, sure.
As long as you maintain character growth and the only thing that change was them not splintering into differing factions during Civil War, then yeah, they would've stood a chance or possibly even won.
If they couldn't beat him with Dr. Strange, Scarlet Witch and Mantis before he had all the stones they sure as shit aren't beating a Thanos that has every stone without them.
The movie gave the impression that Thanos was more or less toying around with most of his opponents and could have killed them at will if he wanted to, but preferred to just leave it to the snap. Granted he did almost lose/die multiple times anyway... movie and all.
With no Black Panther, no Guardians, no SM, no Dr Strange, no Scarlett Witch coming down to save the day when those baybalde things showed up, and no Wakandan technology keeping the foot soldier swarm at bay when they arrived on Earth? Yeah they'd be fucked. Tony would have squashed like a bug if the events on Titan occurred the same without the rest of the crew. Remember, Thanos was seconds away from killing him.
So we spend his last movie (Ragnarok) establishing that he's the God of Thunder, not the God of Hammers, and still... I mean, sure, he would have done it better with Mewmew or the Stormbreaker, but I mean, at least defeat one of the goons, Thor.
Yeah but now there wouldn't be Mantis to lull him into a passive state, and no Dr Strange to hold him in place, and also remove Spider-Man and the rest of GotG crew. How do you reckon things would go down a similar path?
Considering how they almost beat him until Star Lord fucked it up, sure.
As long as you maintain character growth and the only thing that change was them not splintering into differing factions during Civil War, then yeah, they would've stood a chance or possibly even won.
That wasn't the OG Avengers though. That was the GotG with Spider-Man and Iron Man assist (with Iron Man seemingly being substantially more powerful now than back then). And they could only manage what they did because they have a very specific combination of powers the OG Avengers wouldn't have. Widow and Hawkguy are practically non-issues for Thanos. So the question is could Thor + Hulk + A1-Era Iron Man + Cap beat Thanos. And Thanos already bodied the strongest two in Thor and Hulk at the beginning of Infinity War BEFORE he had most of the stones.
Could they? Probably, power levels are all over the place in the MCU anyway.
HELL no. Thanos would've wiped the floor with them. He didn't need any stones to beat Hulk in IW. Cap would get beat just like he did in IW. BW and Hawkeye obviously don't stand a chance. Iron Man's new armor makes his old armor look like a Model T and it barely did shit.
Thor would last the longest but with all the stones I'm pretty sure Thanos wouldn't have too much of a problem.
But those weren't the OG Avengers, it was Iron Man, Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, and most of the Guardians. Collectively they were way stronger.
but I think if Tony and company didn't go to Titan I think they maybe would've won; Scarlett Witch could've done something similar to Mantis and Quill could've easily been replaced by Captain America, Bucky, Falcon, Rocket, well just about anybody....
For the sake of clarification, while Thanos now possesses all 5 gems, he can no longer harness their powers because the only way to do that is through the gauntlet which now no longer exists?
Also, do the gems always need an item to act as a gateway between the object and the power it possesses?
For the sake of clarification, while Thanos now possesses all 5 gems, he can no longer harness their powers because the only way to do that is through the gauntlet which now no longer exists?
Also, do the gems always need an item to act as a gateway between the object and the power it possesses?
The way that it was hinted in the movie was that he had to have them in the gauntlet in order to be able to "combine" their powers. We've seen Doctor Strange use the Time Stone without something the dwarves made, etc.
The snap at the very least-having total God powers required all the stones. Even after it's damaged he was still able to use the Space Stone to teleport. So at the very least he can still use one at a time.
It actually wasn't regenerating armor so much as it was redistributable armor. So when one portion of the armor was damaged or taken out (for example, his face mask), the suit has to use nano-material from other parts of the suit to rebuild it. This is why you see Tony redirect armor from his leg to his left arm when he needs a second blaster (leaving his leg exposed), and later when wants to create the blade he redirects armor from his left arm to his right (leaving his left arm exposed). It's really well done in my opinion.
Iron Man, Dr Strange, Spider-Man and the Guardians almost got the gauntlet from Thanos. And Thor would have killed Thanos had he not gloated and aimed for the head.
Wouldn't they have beaten Thanos as is in the movie if Chris Pratt wasn't there at all? Weren't they about to get the mitten off of Thanos and he fucked it all up?
It actually wasn't regenerating armor so much as it was redistributable armor. So when one portion of the armor was damaged or taken out (for example, his face mask), the suit has to use nano-material from other parts of the suit to rebuild it. This is why you see Tony redirect armor from his leg to his left arm when he needs a second blaster (leaving his leg exposed), and later when wants to create the blade he redirects armor from his left arm to his right (leaving his left arm exposed). It's really well done in my opinion.
All of which is Tony's engineering response to the way Steve and Bucky beat him at the end of Civil War. They damaged his armor one component at a time until he was grounded and had to fight them up close. That strategy wouldn't have worked against the nano-material armor.
All of which is Tony's engineering response to the way Steve and Bucky beat him at the end of Civil War. They damaged his armor one component at a time until he was grounded and had to fight them up close. That strategy wouldn't have worked against the nano-material armor.
The question now is where does Tony take the tech from here? Thanos bodied him and there's no way this all ends with Tony being any more comfortable about unknown threats.
With each new suit the MCU filmmakers have really pushed at the boundaries of credulity. For example, i understand that it's nanomachines but it's also still matter. How does all that matter fit into his chest hole? How thin is the metal shell??
Yes yes i know its science magic, there's wizards and hulks yadda yadda
That makes me think of something semi-related: Tony is an asshole for not sharing his tech with the world to make it a better place. Have they cured cancer yet in the MCU? Or hubger or homelessness? You don't need an Infinity Gauntlet to do that, you just need to share fucking science magic.
"But the tech in the wrong hands!!"
Coward. All the good that did you. Wakanda's tech is at least shared among its people.
Actually, it's weird that there's now a lot of public knowledge about all this new tech, all these crazy heros/villains, the confirmation of extraordinary things, but life for the citizenry is pretty much the same as it would be if none of that was happening.
