I think the next Forza Horizon games will be cross-gen. Every ~5 years followed by big updates and some nice DLCs.
Xbox Game Studios + Bethesda + ABK |OT30| Why So Series X|S?
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I think the next Forza Horizon games will be cross-gen. Every ~5 years followed by big updates and some nice DLCs.
I just think that there's no time left for Xbox.
They did everything they could to grow Xbox in the last 4 years and in terms of console sales/hardware they're worse than ever, and everything points to the coming years being even worse, so why waste more time? Indiana Jones and Doom won't do what Starfield couldn't.
They did everything they could to grow Xbox in the last 4 years and in terms of console sales/hardware they're worse than ever, and everything points to the coming years being even worse, so why waste more time? Indiana Jones and Doom won't do what Starfield couldn't.
They need something though! They can't just keep doing what they are doing, but now also port games to playstation day and date. They still need to sell gamepass. Consoles are abit of a backseat sure, but gamepass should still be a priority.
I really don't think game pass is the end all be all for MS anymore if it ever was. If it still were I don't think MS would be going down the path they currently are.
The only way to "salvage" any semblance of integrity for your hardware or platform business is for this to be at least a year. It isn't going to be that. All signs point to Xbox transition to a publisher. It really seems like that's what's been decided.
No one is gonna buy a whole 'nother console just to play games a few months early lol.
This is the Disney+ issue all over again when movies after 60 days showing up on that streaming service - you have to deprogram people from the expectation 1) they could remove first party titles from the service 2)do some games 60 days to some being 180 days - it would start to get FOMO back which could benefit the platform
Also there are too many games on Game Pass with confusing tiers, so core gets you multiplayer but next tier up doesn't - confuses the average consumer.
Unless the next Xbox somehow releases in 2025, I really don't think we are waiting any longer than that for a new Horizon. It just doesn't make sense for Xbox to do that to it's biggest "XGS" IP at this point.
Oh I think they will do great. I am more questioning it from a gamepass/console point of view. As a third party publisher xbox will kill it.
I mean Game Pass can't be a priority if consoles aren't. They're inherently tied together. You are growing one without the other at this point.
I just hope they keep making some kind of hardware. Even if it's just a pc. The console game being just PlayStation and nintendo would be very limiting. But there is no reason to think that Xbox new strategy is in any way to bolster that. It's just to make them oodles of money.
I don't really get this. When 3rd party games come to Game Pass they release on other consoles simultaneously, this doesn't make them less valuable. I don't think first party games on other consoles does anything to the value of Game Pass, it maybe lowers the value of the console if you're not subscribed to Game Pass, I can understand that, but for Game Pass subscribers, I don't see what changes.
That would mean no console HW - I don't want them make devices where you have to mess on with a bunch of settings as that runs counter to having a console where its plug and play you don't have to fiddle with settings
I think it is fine for existing gamepass subscribers, my argument is more from the point of view of growing the service.
Regardless what happens now, there is still 30 million consoles out there. The vast majority of third party will still release.
I think there is always a place for hardware for xbox
Maybe not in the same quantity. But as hardware company it makes sense to keep in touch tech wise
Don't think anyone is denying that Xbox wouldn't make boatloads of money going 3rd party. Don't really know about the reputation part its not like anyone sees EA or Take2 in a positive light and Xbox will basically become a publisher like those two. The crux of the issue tends to be that going 3rd party would put consoles 10 feet under or would completely change them to the point where they aren't considered consoles anymore which some are worried about.
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That is somewhat true but not every big game is on Steam. The biggest games in the world like Fortnite and Minecraft are not on Steam though. I do remember Gabe saying he would like Game Pass on Steam. My guess is Microsoft has different plans though. I still think we'll get xbox back compatibility on PC and this is how they can guarantee game preservation. That might help with people using Xbox on PC.
slight relief then 😂
now my xbox library 😭 at least it should be safe when they implement personal library on xcloud (that was promised from 2021????)
They literally didnt do anything, it was last september when the studious they bought started paying off.
i'd even say GP becomes an even better deal when non-subscribers have to pay £70 for each game
Starfield being middling really destroyed Microsoft's faith in Xbox. If it was a 10/10 system seller I feel this thread would be real different. They had so much hype and eyes on the product with Starfield and it just didn't come together like they hoped.
im actually pretty positive about future, i also have so many games to play atm series x is a great value for me. But the constant shift on what Xbox will do is really exhausting i hate it.
I dont understand their investment on the hardware if they will kill it, because essentially there is good amount of investment happening to the X|S.
I dont understand their investment on the hardware if they will kill it, because essentially there is good amount of investment happening to the X|S.
Did they? Did they support the console in markets outside the US? Did they try to reach the gamers outside the already informed core gamers' bubble? Did they make marketing for the Game Pass?
Because from where I live (Europe) I saw nothing like that happening.
And that's what frustrates me: they have the most pro-consumer offer, the best ecosystem, the best hardware (in terms of QoL features, not just performance) and yet here we are.
And as much as I'm aware of the situation of the entire industry (and thank you Idas for explaining it better than I ever could), it doesn't change the fact that whatever path they chose to follow, it was always half-assed in its execution.
Now, I'm not worried about what the multiplatform pivot will do to the already flatlining console sales, I knew that the console was becoming an afterthought the moment Spencer started with the new mantras "you don't need an Xbox to play our games" and "every screen is an Xbox". What makes me worry is the fate of those small studios that were acquired to diversify the GP offer. Booty said that the gaming division is now focused on the big, popular, gamers-retaining IPs... And that's the reason behind Arkane's, Tango's and Alpha Dog's closures. MS becoming (fully) third party publisher means that there's no room for small games, no room for creative freedom... We've already seen what a big third party publisher does to its niche games and small studios (see EA or the damn ABK).
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But that's not an Xbox port, that's a PC with Steam installed lol. Your friend list will be empty, no Xbox achievements, no Xbox cloud saves etc.
Not even sure if that would count as Xbox MAU, but probably not
Why would it ever be Xbox MAU it's not an Xbox game.
I am not 100% sure but I think Xbox MAU includes ABK games on mobile and Playstation, I don't think the platform matters.
How I think it'll shake out:
Xbox Game Studios games: Xbox/PC timed exclusives, releasing on other platforms after a year or so.
Bethesda games: Multiplatform.
Activision Blizzard games: Multiplatform.
It's worth keeping in mind that even without any Bethesda and Activision Blizzard games being exclusive to Xbox/PC, Microsoft still has a substantially larger first-party operation in Xbox Game Studios than they did last generation, with the addition of studios like Obsidian, inXile, Compulsion, Undead Labs, and Double Fine. Also it seems like they've substantially increased their partnerships with external developers through XGS Publishing.
Xbox Game Studios games: Xbox/PC timed exclusives, releasing on other platforms after a year or so.
Bethesda games: Multiplatform.
Activision Blizzard games: Multiplatform.
It's worth keeping in mind that even without any Bethesda and Activision Blizzard games being exclusive to Xbox/PC, Microsoft still has a substantially larger first-party operation in Xbox Game Studios than they did last generation, with the addition of studios like Obsidian, inXile, Compulsion, Undead Labs, and Double Fine. Also it seems like they've substantially increased their partnerships with external developers through XGS Publishing.
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If I'm remembering right, 5.3 gave the matrix demo a great performance boost, also decreased the memory usage.
they can work stuff out, linking accounts etc.
not having a game is worse than having it w/o achievements anyways.
The game was already aiming for 60fps, It should be easier now.
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