Xbox Game Studios + Bethesda + ABK |OT30| Why So Series X|S?
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There are always more people who don't buy a game compared to the user base.
If a COD sold like 30 Million copies that would mean that there 100 or 200 Million who didn't.
Also think about the people who buy cod on sale like 6 month later. Those would rather sub day one instead of waiting for it to go on sale.
Yeah, you can't have it both ways. It is their responsibility now.
They would need to own an Xbox or a PC capable of playing COD and then sub to GP. Also 6 months later COD might be 33% off. COD isn't Ubisoft. There is also the F2P ultra popular Warzone but I digress. I hope you are right. I am one of the people that buys CoD regularly that now will enjoy it on GP.
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It's a bit different when it's a game series that has been consistent with their marketing for over 15 years. Activision COD marketing has always been incredible.
Ever since the closures attacks on MS and its studios seem to get a free pass. At least that kind of stuff generally gets shut down in this thread now.
Hopefully a showcase/SoP should be a big enough distraction to stop it for a few weeks.
That cloud of uncertainty will continue to exist, a lot of titles being announced will have the multiplatform discussion dominate the conversation.
And honesty if the multiplatform strategy has to happen here's what I would do....
-Any game not launching at $70 is multiplatform day and date release, (this will help ensure the survival of the studio)
-Port older successful service games
-Continue to launch your $70 games as exclusive or at least a one year exclusivity window. These are titles with the potential to bring new people into your ecosystem, use that to your advantage.
If Microsoft came out and was very specific what titles are going where at least players will know what to expect.
Playground is killing it still with updates to FH5. I spent a couple of hours last night playing the new retro wave update and was hooked all over like the game just came out. The amount of effort they're putting into their updates is amazing almost 3 years later. They were such a perfect studio to invest it.
giving MS credit for Activision marketing is such a smoke and mirrors argument. Activision has always had huge marketing and this one isn't any different. MS got control of Activision in Oct/Nov of last year and Marketing activations for large brands especially stuff like Call of Duty is done quarters before the game is actually revealed so i'm sure MS had nothing to do with it and it's just them letting them operate business as usual.
It doesn't help the argument that MS' marketing for their own games have been in dogshit tier for ages, the last game from them that got a wide scale marketing push was Starfield (even that was probably mostly ran by Beth Marketing) and before that the best one I can remember was like Halo 4.
It doesn't help the argument that MS' marketing for their own games have been in dogshit tier for ages, the last game from them that got a wide scale marketing push was Starfield (even that was probably mostly ran by Beth Marketing) and before that the best one I can remember was like Halo 4.
The best investment to returns ratio of all the studios purchased if you ask me.
XI is a great game but if you have played games like Octopath Traveller or the Pixel Remasters then maybe check out the DQ HD2D remakes that are gonna be revealed soon, I assume they will also be released quite soon too (this year possibly)
I started with the last one, DQ XI, and am now a big fan, so perhaps start there.
I really need to get up to speed with all the latest tech incoming
Responsibility wise, sure, whatever floats anyone's boat. Analytically completely useless though.
COD's marketing budget is insane!, and yeah i see talk of it everywhere.
Marketing budget for COD is higher than most game development budgets. Even though I wasn't intrerested in COD for the last few years I need to admit it is still fascinating and hype still catches me pre releases.
basically even if they are semi independent they are still using MS money now
I am pretty sure budgets were planned in advance and MS would just let them do what they planned.
11 is a good starting point. 4 is one of my favourites but best played on 3ds.
Pretty much. If BO6 turns out to be Vanguard/MW3 poopy it'll be on MS anyway.
I'm far from an expert on the series, but DQ11 was the one that made me a fan. It's manages to feel both modern and traditional at the same time. DQ8 is also good and very charming, even if I find the encounters grating.
Don't start from the beginning, as DQ1 is about as basic as it gets today and is barely playable for anything other than historical reasons.
Agreed on the second paragraph. Old DQ is rough to replay. The DS remasters are visually great but really highlight some of the constraints that pre 2000 jrpgs had.
DQ11S or DQ8 (You can find it on iPhone/Android nowadays) are good starters.
yeps when there is big marketing pushes its not MS its ALL Beth or Acti, but when there is little from the same pubs it's ALL MS fault lol
very true, it will also be the first COD i play in years if it hits GP
No, I just said that's the one I played haha. I don't remember when it came and went but I did check and it's no longer there.
DQ1 (Dragon Warrior when I played) is the first RPG I ever played, got it free with my subscription to Nintendo Power magazine, lol. Don't start with that is my only recommendation 😆.
If GP is supposed to grow and is tied to consoles but they don't expect to grow consoles what is the logic for gamepass expanding?
Streaming will be the big focus in the next few years. That's how they will be wanting to expand gamepass.
Same logic they put games on GP day and date and expect sales alongside it
They want to make game pass available on every screen to reach as many people as possible. There is actually no console needed. However selling consoles will help obviously.
GP has yet to convert every Xbox owner to the service. So there is still room for growth in that sense. Consoles in the short term are still important to Microsoft because that is where the majority of subscribers are. Also, that is why they are adding COD to the service after all. In hopes of driving growth.
It's REALLY good imo. Deserved.
Rod and team now how to make a game on a deadline and respond to player feedback quickly. He's one of the best in the biz imo.
SSoin your mind, their path forward depends on their competitors allowing them to put their service on their platform?
The existing userbase that's shrinking? What percentage of the current console base are not subscribed? Do we know? To me, you grow subscriptions with content. Until they get their pipeline in order and figured out I don't see GP having any sustained growth. CoD should help though.
Well I don't think it is that simple.
I think when it comes to gamepass, Microsoft is happy to play the long game. Originally that probably wasn't the case, they had ambitious targets, they expected consoles to do better, and xcloud to really take off. That hasn't happened, so now they have pivoted, but gamepass is still important, its just the future. When technology and network infrastructure has caught up, and more and more people are streaming, those are the people who have the mentality that they don't need to own games, subscription is where it is at. And Microsoft wants to be at the forefront of all that. Therefore I dont think growth right now is overly important (although they wouldnt be against it of course). Going multiplaform fits this long term vision.
So Gamepass is the driving force unto itself?
Edit:replaced exclusive with driving force.
They haven't said what percentage of users are signed up. Microsoft have released two first party games in the last 2.5 years that have actually moved the needle (Starfield and Grounded) in terms of ten million+ players playing them. However third party releases have been strong with several titles charting very high on most played chart.
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