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Xbox Game Studios + Bethesda + ABK | OTXVIII | Some Marketers Are Always Trying To Ice Skate Uphill
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Maybe after trying a game/series they'll like it enough to invest as opposed to having never tried it? It's much different seeing videos of a game and deciding to invest $500 than playing it yourself and falling for it.
Ain't got no disagreements from me, haven't ever played the games.
TheUnsungHero26 posted more context from the podcast (I still need to listen to it but im listening to Xbox Two rn)
- Not Redfall lol
- Nate: "View it from the perspective of Microsoft, as a business. If you're bringing select games multiplatform, outside of PC, to Switch and Playstation—your competitor's consoles—you're doing so because you want to expand its reach beyond that of just Xbox itself.
- Pentiment is used as an example. If something like that is ported to Switch and PS, it's already a very well-received game that could sell well, and at this point, it's not driving Game Pass subscriptions. They play it and enjoy it, and then three years later when a sequel comes out, it's exclusive to Xbox/PC, so the only way to play it is to buy it on Xbox, or PC, which MS is ok with.
- "Allows Microsoft to expand their ecosystem, and draw you in when the time is right."
- Nate reiterates that a potential sequel would be exclusive.
- "Microsoft could be partnering with an external publisher to bring the title [Nate] is referring to a multiplatform release."
- He also says they may self-publish
Honestly, I think this could be Killer Instinct. Hi-Fi RUSH is too soon. Killer Instinct anniversary edition just released, they updated some aspects to it, we "know" they are trying to reinvigorate the brand/IP, PlayStation is a huge fighting platform and Sony owns freakin' EVO now.
Killer Instinct 2013 Anniversary Edition out on PlayStation and maybe even Switch 2.
Killer Instinct 2 exclusive?
Though the part about an external publisher bringing it to multiplatform or self-publishing seems... suspect for first-party games. That's like the thing you let a third party XGSP game run with (See: As Dusk Falls and Ori publishing on their own).
NateDrake: A critically acclaimed Xbox 1st party title will come to a competitor platform in 2024 (UP: WC says more titles could be ported as well)
Ok, so I finally had a chance to listen to the podcast (at least, the part on this topic) and there are a few additional points that give more context. It's not Redfall (lol) Nate: "View it from the perspective of Microsoft, as a business. If you're bringing select games multiplatform, outside...www.resetera.com
Killer Instinct was not a GOTY contender in the same year as GTA 5 and The Last Of Us.
Is this the type of game that creates ambiguity for the stuff like Halo/Starfield/Hellblade/etc. or is this closer to an ADF?
Exaaaaactly.
"Here is a game that was exclusive to Xbox! Try it out! But we will never bring the sequel to Playstation. We sure won't no matter what the metrics say. For realsies. pls bye xbox"
I've mentioned that in the past, release a game that is popular to other platforms late and has an exclusive sequel planned. Cost-benefit is very risky though.
Honestly I'd be down for that. Gravity Rush is such an incredible franchise and tbh I'm still mad at Sony for killing Gravity Rush
Hey hey hey, if Sony actually felt like marketing Gravity Rush 2 it actually would have had a significant chance at success. It's an incredible game and yet it got next to no marketing and Sony just left it out alone to sell next to no copies. I guarantee though that if Sony actually went and ported Gravity Rush 2 to PC and/or Switch, the game would find some level of success.
I agree. Especially when people are already making that decision.
Not sure what it would look like but it would be cool to see Halo and Doom share the same universe.
Sad part is they're genuinely good games. Just weren't appealing in a broad way, and Sony did jack shit to help.
Well, they're apparently making a movie based on the IP. Good time for a remaster and spreading it everywhere.
Exact same here. Microsoft would be the one handing out their exclusives for extra sales and the added benefit of weakening their platform.
It was for different reasons, but Hellblade 2 and TOW 2 will be interesting tests of multiplatform games going exclusive for the sequel.
Yup, this is probably the reason why Sony has FF7 Remake exclusivity on lock until all 3 parts are out. If FF7R launched on Xbox in 2021 then everyone on Xbox would just thug out the 1 year late port for rebirth and part 3. If I was PS5 only and Hi-fi comes to my console with an announcement of Hi-Fi 2 only for xbox I'm not buying an xbox, I'm waiting for it to come to PS5 because clearly that strat works.
Yes. Most folks would not look at an ADF and think "Halo is coming to PS/Switch" but might if it was Gears, just to give a hypothetical.
Hey now, I liked Gravity Rush. It, KZ Mercenary and Teraway are the only reason I bought a Vita. But again, game is cursed. Kat can shift gravity but not away from the failure stuck to her Also Xbox doesn't have gyro so not sure how it would be played to its full potential.
lol, I just thought of the port begging threads based around metrics of how any specific Xbox's first party games are perceived to be performing if they start doing this. I'm totally aware that this in particular is not a problem outside of extremely engaged communities like Resetera but it will be a new frontier of concern trolling. There will be brave trolls blazing new paths across forums and social media for years to come.
Hellblade 2 review thread, "I'll wait for the PS5 version". It's Pandora's Box.
I mean they bought Bethesda so they could "deliver great exclusives on platforms where gamepass exists." If it's HFR that completely fits the bill. They already have so many great exclusives on GP on Playstation. Win/win.
Yeah, I started looking at GotY blogpost for something else, and I keep coming back to this.
Critically acclaimed, GotY conversation the year it was released.
It's a path I wouldn't walk down personally but I'm not Phil Spencer.
Thank you, always smh at people who don't know the correct Japanese pronunciation is Ekusubokusu Sirisu Kurasu
Someone earlier in the thread said it might be coming from pressure above him (Satya and maybe Amy from the side) and I can't imagine any other reason to do it if you care about growing the Xbox ecosystem. It's pretty much a play for short-term extra quarterly cash at the expense of the Xbox brand imo.
I wouldn't put it on the same tier as Halo/Gears but I'd put it higher than ADF. I wouldn't use the game in question as a barometer for MS' multiplat strategy, as it remains a case by case basis.
I wonder if it's intentional that it doesn't seem like the game being ported was described as an Xbox (and PC) exclusive? And instead as a first party Xbox title. Would make me think of it being Psychonauts 2 coming to Switch in some way, since it was already on the Playstation ecosystem in some way.
We already saw this on a smaller and related level with Rise of the Tomb Raider being timed exclusive for a year.
PS4 folks just waited and IIRC the game had decent PS4 sales.
So the most quintessential Xbox associated IPs vs a small/niche 3rd party published (new IP)game is the range. Lmao.
No shade just hilariously framed.
We are more likely to see another Gravity Rush game than one starring the character in your profile pic, let's keep it a 💯
"Hellblade 3 and TOW 3 were just announced. Why not put HB2 and TOW2 on Playstation and Switch? The first ones were on there and it's not like they are selling a ton of copies now. I could see it. They did bring over Hi-Fi Rush and Ori before the sequels. I sat out HB2 and TOW2 because I don't have an Xbox but I played the first ones and liked them. And who knows? Maybe the sequels will come to Playstation and Switch sooner?"
I don't think the situation you're describing would lead to many sales. I think that it's a flawed concept
and not just because I can mostly tell if I'm going to like a game based on watching gameplay videos! Who of the people who played HiFi on PS5 and really enjoyed it is going to believe that the sequel is really an exclusive?
That doesn't work to any significant extent and will never make up for the damage done to the platform. How do we know? Well, if it did, Nintendo and Sony would be bringing their old games to Xbox to bait for the sequel.
That's almost certainly not the reason, because they already know it doesn't work that way. It's to make more money and they're ok with the damage it does to Xbox the console, because it benefits Xbox the service by bringing in more money.
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