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Xbox Game Studios + Bethesda + ABK | OTXVIII | Some Marketers Are Always Trying To Ice Skate Uphill
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Imagine buying nearly 100 billion worth of studios in 5 years, and finally owning what you've been missing all your life: a portfolio of 43 great studios, including some of the world's best FPS and Western RPG studios.
That you finally have everything you need to overcome the Xbox One curse and release the best console generation ever.
And now that you finally have all this... you decide to release your games on other platforms.
That you finally have everything you need to overcome the Xbox One curse and release the best console generation ever.
And now that you finally have all this... you decide to release your games on other platforms.
Pretty sure SOT is more popular than Halo at this moment
Soon, probably not. Eventually maybe. Not saying they would do it as a defence but it would look good to a regulator I suppose.
As for games going to other platforms, maybe they just hit a ceiling so why not let them be there played elsewhere, it's not that shocking.
This. And I'm more angry at myself for making the poor choice to go with Xbox rather than continually upgrading my PC than I am at Microsoft, right now.
Considering it's a shorter singleplayer game nearly a year after release and the abundance of titles available on Xbox, 207 actually sounds really, really impressive.
Numbers based thinking is the real problem here. The damage to the brand is not about numbers in the short term.
Would a future Xbox being a custom PC be a viable solution to all this? Legit question: could it be called xbox and be able to run all Sony games ported to pc?
When MS decided to do zero marketing to it and just drop it out of nowhere, it was expected that the game could "flop". If they really wanted the game to succeeded, they should've started the marketing in the 2022 E3 conference, keep people expectations on high note and then launched it out of nowhere in january.
I'm sure it is but SOT isn't associated with the Xbox brand like Halo, Gears and Forza are. Its easier to make the case for SOT to go multiplat than Halo. The latter having defined the xbox brand since its inception.
This is an Xbox ARG. Porting Sea of Thieves is signaling a change in tides, winds of change. Porting Hi-Fi Rush is signaling they are changing rhythm and moving to their own beat. Kojima and OD must be part of the puzzle.
lol ah this has been entertaining :)
The result would be exactly the same, at least in player engagement and more.
If I had to guess, what Tim said may have been more or less true. Of course we'll see, but a lot of times when there's smoke there's fire. But it wouldn't be the first time where he brought something up that hadn't fully been decided or had it's messaging planned out, and Phil had to go shut it down. Remember the same crap happened with Bethesda back in the day.
I think the truth is basically they've decided that porting some year's old games is more or less harmless, and would have little to no effect on console sales, but would make them a lot of money. I think that thinking is probably right, the effect of individual exclusives is way overstated by the public and especially era bubble types and twitter warriors. But like PianoBlack said, I think they greatly underestimate what this will do with their messaging. I don't even think them coming out and saying that this is a one time thing, don't expect any other ports will make a difference - no one will ever believe a word they say on the subject anymore.
John Johanas has explained why they did the shadow drop many times. They were worried about people souring on it over time based on appearances and because it isn't The Evil Within, and that it would get overshadowed by bigger games.
It's easy to say in hindsight that it may have been the wrong decision, but at the time with the information they had, I understand why they did it. They owned the news cycle for days if not weeks.
They need to come out and just say something. It doesn't need to be a lot just solidifying what is happening and give us an idea of what's happening for the brand because people are rightfully concerned which is valid. Overreactions on the other hand, kinda embarrassing
Do you think Xbox or MS is dead in the gaming world if they do this?
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This company never fails to amazes me with utter shit messaging and to think they'll wonder why they'll never capture back or grow their console market. Im just waiting to see how they blunder on marketing cod. I don't care if it hasn't yet the fact that they are considering or did is so fucking annoying
I'm reading all of this and I don't understand the issue? People are acting like Halo and Forza are being released on the PS5.
Eh, I'm not melting down, but if MS is porting more first party titles to other platforms is does make me a bit disappointed because it might mean that Xbox, the platform might not be long for this world.
Ultimately it doesn't matter but at the same time I grew up on Xbox so it'll make me a bit sad is all of that ends up happening
After the positive reaction to Blade's annoucement without any Xbox branding (Marvel Channel's Youtube views) , MS imo is believing too much on the "Xbox Tax" stuff, the brand is just not worth building to match Nintendo and Playstation, specially outside the US.
So the solution is to meet new customers on those stronger brands, like they already do on Steam, pushing these customers to their hardcore and much smaller walled garden by using FOMO on timed exclusives sequels with game pass day one value gain.
I expect at this point the entire first party back catalog everywhere, creating a new "Phil's loophole", why buy a new Xbox when I could wait a year to play this game on my PS?
So the solution is to meet new customers on those stronger brands, like they already do on Steam, pushing these customers to their hardcore and much smaller walled garden by using FOMO on timed exclusives sequels with game pass day one value gain.
I expect at this point the entire first party back catalog everywhere, creating a new "Phil's loophole", why buy a new Xbox when I could wait a year to play this game on my PS?
Every time Xbox has had a hit against it, people get excited, like seeing a car crash in a race.
Loving this approach. Xbox has always been a mid tier PC, so Xbox becoming more like Steam, but available on every possible platform is fine.
Obviously won't have a launcher on PlayStation or Nintendo but the games will just land on their systems years late and will be the most expensive option.
Fanboys will lose their shit. Sony and Nintendo will have to figure out their strategy if Xbox brand starts gaining mindshare. Average consumer will have more options to play games wherever they want.
This OT will literally be volcanic though and I'm here for it.
SoT going to PS5 wouldn't be bad move.
Just tell me the Metascore that's what it matters to me lol
To be frank, this all sounds like Microsoft teeing up another acquisition.
They can show everyone (regulators) how they like to share. They can show that the 'others' don't like to share. Boom. Another publisher.
They can show everyone (regulators) how they like to share. They can show that the 'others' don't like to share. Boom. Another publisher.
Fingers crossed they do, even if I don't believe it. Time to take a break, but will be interesting to see how they spin this.
Hi all, kind of a silent lurker but there might be more to this
Here's a train of thought:
Xbox brings all 1st party exclusives to PS/Nintendo BUT plans to keep them full price for longer time and without bringing them Day 1 but after 6 months or so (example: SoT 60$, Starfield 70$)
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Markets them with an option to buy them on GP for PC or GP for Console for 10$/month(for existing Xbox console users) to play them Day 1
This way, they mint money with full price releases on competing platforms who show higher tendency to buy 70$ games + build new communities that start liking Xbox as a publisher + gets brand recognition
As GP starts firing consistently with ABK/Bethesda/Xbox Studios in 2024 and beyond, GP becomes even more desirable which inevitably makes buying an Xbox console as attractive as before since it's the most affordable place to play their exclusive games with GP Day 1.
Xbox would also make tonnes of revenue from competing platform users (who never would have bought an Xbox anyway i.e., 2 generations proved this: Xbox One/Series X/S) which can be invested to make even more games for GP/get 3rd party games on GP
Here's a train of thought:
Xbox brings all 1st party exclusives to PS/Nintendo BUT plans to keep them full price for longer time and without bringing them Day 1 but after 6 months or so (example: SoT 60$, Starfield 70$)
OR
Markets them with an option to buy them on GP for PC or GP for Console for 10$/month(for existing Xbox console users) to play them Day 1
This way, they mint money with full price releases on competing platforms who show higher tendency to buy 70$ games + build new communities that start liking Xbox as a publisher + gets brand recognition
As GP starts firing consistently with ABK/Bethesda/Xbox Studios in 2024 and beyond, GP becomes even more desirable which inevitably makes buying an Xbox console as attractive as before since it's the most affordable place to play their exclusive games with GP Day 1.
Xbox would also make tonnes of revenue from competing platform users (who never would have bought an Xbox anyway i.e., 2 generations proved this: Xbox One/Series X/S) which can be invested to make even more games for GP/get 3rd party games on GP
Sea of thieves is one of their bigger games not on halo tier but probably right below and at that point just put every live service game everywhere just save me the headache
In this thread, moments of doom and gloom are quite common. However, I think, at least for me, I hadn't experienced one of such intensity until now. Does anyone who has more years of experience than me remember a similar one?
It's just very different, we haven't seen a platform holder try this before, so people will react.
What if stephen totilo is correct and season 11 of SoT will make it f2p
I dont think it will bc they have enough server issues as it stands and it sells very well often going on sale for $20 on steam. Thats a lot of money to give up bc how many are reallt gonna buy mtx in sot
I dont think it will bc they have enough server issues as it stands and it sells very well often going on sale for $20 on steam. Thats a lot of money to give up bc how many are reallt gonna buy mtx in sot
To be fair it's also 6 years after release
Kinda affects the feeling also
Because it limits Xbox's hardware potential audience and future 3rd party and indie games coming to the platform.
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