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"Best I can do is not worse than E3" 🤣 No more discovery channel videos pls
If it's true that Playground still has ~130 job openings, it's very likely that Fable is still in early pre-production.
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This is not how game development works and it hurts my head every time I see this dumb point being brought up. We literally had Amie Spuddle, one of the senior producers of Fable, say that this is not how game development works. She said this on Reddit and liked several tweets echoing this.
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This is not how game development works and it hurts my head every time I see this dumb point being brought up. We literally had Amie Spuddle, one of the senior producers of Fable, say that this is not how game development works. She said this on Reddit and liked several tweets echoing this.
lol nah, folks need to read the xbox wire post, normal gamescon setup, with some games hitting in the next 12 months being shown and some dev interviews. :)
That's exciting, they've published some fantastic games on Game Pass already.
Yeah, I would not expect anything at Gamescom given that there is not even a real showcase. We might get Pentiment impressions since it will be at the booth.
View: https://twitter.com/klobrille/status/1557348077584908288
That's around 140ppl worked on Avowed if we count some of the cross team members that work on both TOW2 & Avowed.
I except Avowed (TOW2 too) to have big Co-development support that help on Environment, Game Design,animation etc...
But I guess TOW2 is not a 2024 game but more 2025.
And Project Dragon (IOI) Art director : https://esbenlash.net/illustration
The team is mainly composed by IOI veteran, Former CD Project red, Massive entertainment, Former Lead/Senior on AC Valhalla.
The team is mainly composed by IOI veteran, Former CD Project red, Massive entertainment, Former Lead/Senior on AC Valhalla.
Avowed must be releasing within the next fiscal year I hope
Beautiful work for Riot. Guess Project Dragon may be bit more cartoony fantasy if his portfolio was tapped. Exciting
Please Rare stop making the best game you have ever made better
SO
Neowiz has Lies of P playable at the Xbox booth on Gamescom. It's this game (they are from South Korea)
View: https://youtu.be/q-8ix2pSHrw
curious if we get an game pass announcement. The game looks reaaaaaaaaally cool.
Neowiz has Lies of P playable at the Xbox booth on Gamescom. It's this game (they are from South Korea)
View: https://youtu.be/q-8ix2pSHrw
curious if we get an game pass announcement. The game looks reaaaaaaaaally cool.
Stop working on SoT and split your 1st team into Everwild and TES VI
Hope dies last.
It misses something to look like Bloodborne. I guess wet environment and some lighting?
These games are popular. Also Flight Sim is a poster child for cloud games. Also has great visuals, who does not like photorealistic graphics?
See this amping up of a level with sirens/lights flashing for Infection is what I'm talkin' about. Could probably be tweaked a bit to be less gaudy, but that's the idea. IMO it would be fun to have these be dynamic like when half the survivors die or if you're the last remaining to trigger the lighting effects or start blowing steam out creating some fog. Would be crazy.
Gamepass announcement would be cool. Think it's first half next year though. Souls-clones tend to be more miss than hits from experience. This looks better than 90% of souls clones though
I feel you on the first part. Need new hotness in the shows.
the last DLC for we happy few came out at the end of 2019, the team expanded a lot and the game is much bigger than anything they've tried before. really simple
Straw mans. Nothing against the games but I would rather see anything else than these games. These games are big enough to have their own shows. Just look at SoT channel. They get great views and engagement on their social media.
Pentiment is something I can understand as well. I wish I can put myself into cryo sleep until 2023
Who all is in this photo? Is this just No More Robots, or is it a bunch of UK indie peeps? Cuz that's Mike Bithell too, right? Or am I mistaken..
Listening to XCast and they're running with my example of Soul Hackers 2 alongside the Elden Ring XCloud screengrabs 😭 and they're focusing mostly on the "Game Pass" logo rather than the owned cloud games thing as if Elden Ring is coming to Game Pass being the "news" here haha. Noooooo. I mean I guess technically owned streaming is "Game Pass" because it will require Ultimate to access lol
edit: based vicious696 bringing it down to Earth as always 💪
edit: based vicious696 bringing it down to Earth as always 💪
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Yeah making your first AAA game amidst a pandemic, finishing DLC and expandind your team takes time
What's nice about Game Pass Family coming to $25 a month out the gate (presumably, based on how it's structured atm) seems like a Game Pass price increase isn't coming any time soon. Why would you release a new tier/offering and then jack the price up within like, a year, you know?
That would end June 2024, so yes, I think you are correct.
Exactly. Early even on a normal timeline for a game that's already figured out from a team that is used to doing them. So, in these circumstances where none of those things are true..
WHAT EVIL HAVE YOU WROUGHT!!! Ah well, it was hard to understand what was happening, even in this thread with all the context laid out and multiple warnings haha. Can't blame people for taking what they see at face value and running with it. Cue the neverending disappointment...
Yea, I really don't think they're raising the price imminently. No one is saying they won't raise the price, but it's probably going to be years down the line. That "You know they're gonna raise the price, right?" talking point has morphed into some kind of warning to people that they shouldn't buy in or something in some circles. Kinda weird..
But anyway, they're clearly still in the spending a lot of money and acquiring users mode. I wonder if they'll spend less on GP deals or raise the prices first. I imagine the smarter move, if they intend to start paring back the costs and making more money, would be to spend less on deals and hold off on raising the price for as long as possible. Lock in is a powerful tool (though, MS has now agreed to warn people when their subs are renewing, which is good).
This.
According to the latest information, none of these titles are in full production yet.
This is not very encouraging.
They all have dozens of open positions.
It is not even certain that Hellblade 2 will make it by the end of 2023.
For 2024, on the other hand, I am almost certainly seeing a new chapter of Gears.
Everything else is TBA 2025 and beyond.
From this perspective, they desperately need to close asap with Activision and start pushing everything they can as exclusive software.
Guys, we're approaching the mid gen, where are the games?
They'd be nuts to raise the price anytime soon….they will likely wait until they hit their first party game release cadence. Once the Starfields, Avoweds, Fables etc start dropping with somewhat regular occurrence then Xbox can probably starting thinking about it because at that point the value proposition will be even greater than it is now and I think consumers will understand to a degree.
As successful as Game Pass has been, its not even close to having hit its stride.
Can you post links to it because I haven't heard anything about which game is in full production or not, from the devs/studio or Xbox. I hate when make statements like this as fact without any actual proof of the claims and I'm ready to be corrected. Not links from rumours of someone saying they heard it or whatnot. Not saying it isn't true but like I said I haven't heard/seen this sort of statements from any of those games.
I'm a huge pessimist after the latest showcase and I've definitely ruffled a few feathers in this OT with it. However, Xbox is looking solid starting 2023. We just have to keep the "wait till next year" meme alive for a few more months 🙏
Yeah, that would be nice, but I'm just glad it's launching on Game Pass :)
It'll be interesting to see who people prefer of Obsidian and Inxile at the end of the generation. Before Wasteland 3 Obsidian would have been in the lead for me and they have so many great games, but I'm still leaning towards Inxile for now, even if I love Obsidian as well.
Friendly competition with the Xbox ecosystem as the winner regardless of who comes out on top :)
I've said many times before in previous Xbox threads that service games have a different and possibly more hurtful impact on a first party. Less variety, fewer releases and fewer surprises, all due to how long they take to make. Do we want updates for one game for years and years or two-three different games in the same time frame? Do we wanna see updates for the same game at their industry events over and over again or do we wanna be surprised by something new every time?
Nothing kills momentum for me at an industry event like showing service updates and I get sad every time a developer starts working on them, knowing all too well that new games will now happen much less regularly.
My hope is that with Game Pass, they don't need to rely on live service games as much. Just release shorter games, have DLCs if you want, and release more of them!
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edit: well, the BC program is on ice. Enhancements are in the cards but definitely not prioritized. Things like FPS Boost is basically dead. Resolution boost stuff isn't happening.
I know they stopped adding games but I don't know if they're still patching them.
The problem with that is live service games are the perfect things to have on a subscription service to increase revenue.
Larger player base, more opportunities to sell content in the game.
the games so good
While I get the sentiment and def agree with being tired of seeing SoT and Flight Sim at EVERY show. Both are very successful with SoT's prob being Xbox's most successful live service game. It has healthy player based on xbox and steam and consistently is getting new content. Having Rare ditch it is prob the worst thing they could do.
ya need both. If anything, there are more games that fit the description you just made then there are live service games on GP.
I disagree. If I play one live service game mainly, its just better to buy it separately then have a subscription for games I don't care for.
The best thing for a service like Game Pass is to have a ton of games releasing. You can also release DLC/early access for those games to generate more revenue.
Live service games make a lot of sense outside of the Game Pass model because you want to make as much money as you can from an individual game. Game Pass allows them to focus more on a massive amount of content/games releasing.
GAAS don't hurt first party except maybe in list wars that take place in bubbles like Resetera. Player data has consistently shown that many, many players want these games, play these games more often, and choose to spend their money on them. People like the familiar and once they find a few games they like are very happy to continue playing them and spending money on new content for them. Even before GAAS most players only purchased a single digit number of games in a generation. GAAS just more efficiently caters to this very large crowd.
It would only really be a huge "problem" if MS only made GAAS and lost the "sample and survey" hardcore crowd prevalent at places like this who play dozens of games a year. However, there is absolutely no indication that is going to happen. The green light for games like As Dusk Falls and Pentiment actually heavily indicates a desire to release a variety of genres and game types.
It would only really be a huge "problem" if MS only made GAAS and lost the "sample and survey" hardcore crowd prevalent at places like this who play dozens of games a year. However, there is absolutely no indication that is going to happen. The green light for games like As Dusk Falls and Pentiment actually heavily indicates a desire to release a variety of genres and game types.
Both things can and will be true.
We're seeing stuff like As Dusk Falls and Pentiment get to shine in the spotlight due to Game Pass. But it's impossible to ignore the impact Game Pass will have on live services as it continues to grow. Ask Sea of Thieves.
Now fast forward to next year when League, WOW and Candy Crush all have some sort of Game Pass benefits. We haven't even scratched the surface in that regard yet.
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