I was thinking something like that, or maybe one outlet loaded to the first menu vs another loading into gameplay, the load times in general are very impressive but that one just stood out to me.
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its a ram dump, its just storing your ram as a image in the ssd.
Thanks for the update. So..do you think its possible that, at some point, MS might find a way to ler xbox games run from these faster drives?
Wish we could choose where to save our game downloads when clicking the download button, instead of having to dive into the settings Gs and setting a default storage option. Would be helpful this coming gen if I decided to get a 1tb SSD to put most of my series x games on
Some outlets are timing the time of booting the entire game up to being in the game, others are timing how long it takes from the main menu to into the game.
Nope, not for anything in the "Series" standard. The Xbox Velocity Architecture requires two things from storage: higher speeds, and *sustained* speeds. That's why its efficient-yet-bulky design is key, to keep that NVMe 4.0 memory cooled at full load. (I expect to say the same things about PS5, but that comparison will be interesting.)
Yeah, in my piece, I measured the time from pressing "A" in the home menu ("booting from cold") to a game fully loading a save game (all while mashing the A and Start buttons, speedrunner-style). I think it's more representative of telling the back-compat story, since you're going to have to go through classic-console intro screens and menus for most older software (when you're not leaning on the awesomeness of Quick Resume, anyway).
This isn't real.
Did you try without mashing the buttons?
No. I needed to lock down exact loading amounts, so no variations in pauses between menus, and no games that I couldn't boot without mashing the A button, or that required joystick/d-pad taps.
samred quick question, I assume you guys had a limited number of titles to test / show correct? Which is why some other "obvious" stuff that could really benefit from a performance bump, like for example the AC games (well, Origins and Odyssey) weren't tested?
Or you guys just didnt happen to test those?
Or you guys just didnt happen to test those?
Any thoughts on the new dpad?
edit: reading the article now! great read. Below is the portion on the dpad for everyone else:
Xbox Series X hands-on: The big back-compat dive begins [Updated]
Xbox Quick Resume impresses. Plus: New controller, auto-HDR, venting holes, and more.
arstechnica.com
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I don't know who that is :(
edit: I assume you mean this dude? he doesnt show Origins performance tho
Jeff Grubb, he definitely used it as a comparison for moving from HDD to SDD and I'm fairly sure he showed gameplay with framerates, not sure about loading.
Yea. I hate having to switch disks. I have almost no disks now. That said, if you just have a couple of disks that you use, you can use them interspersed with your digital games. So, if you just one disk in the machine, that can just be part of your rotation. Just quit the game and it should save the state for you.
The REAL QUESTION is if this ruins save scumming and quitting before the save lol.
Ha, sad but true.
Thanks for the update Samred. There is some great info in there.
Looking over your article and load times though, I think you are still missing one of the most useful use-cases. Internal NVMe SSD, vs USB 3.2 SSD drive, both on Series X.
This would be awesome to know. I beleive I saw some data on it that showed an external USB SSD has almost the same load times as using the internal NVMe for BC games. If that's the case, that could save people hundreds of dollars and free ip lots of space for them on the internal drive.
For example, while the internal NVMe card could be upwards of $295 here in canada, I can purchase an external 10gbit/s SSD drive bay for $30, and slot in any SSD.
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Origins is already a solid 30FPS so not sure what you're expecting to see?
one thing I will say is, in the promo pics the series x looked gross to me. But seeing all these shots of it in people living rooms, cabinets etc, I think it looks rather sleek. I do worry about it seems the general consensus is lying down is no where near as nice as having it stand, as I have no room to have it stand.
List of preview articles and video's
Here is a list of the Xbox Series X previews that I could find.
- Alanah Pearce (preview announcement video)
- Ars Technica (Sam Machkovech; article, video)
- Austin Evans (video)
- CNET (Dan Ackerman & Jeff Bakalar; article, video)
- Digital Foundry (Richard Leadbetter; article, video)
- Engadget (Jessica Conditt; article, video)
- Famitsu (古屋陽一 [Yoichi Furuya]; article [Japanese])
- GamesBeat/VentureBeat (Jeff Grubb; article, preview video, cold boot video, Q&A video)
- Game Informer (Brian Shea; article)
- GameSpot (Michael Higham; article, video)
- Geoff Keighley (Tweet)
- IGN (Ryan McCaffrey; article, video)
- Jenna Ezarik (Quick Resume Tweet)
- Kevin Kenson Gaming (video)
- King Gothalion (Cory Michael; No Man's Sky load Tweet, PSO 2 Tweet)
- Lamarr Wilson (Hands-on video)
- Maka91Productions (Patrick Maka; Seagate 1 TB SSD video)
- Tech Chap, The (Tom Honeyands; video)
- UrAvgConsumer (Judner Aura; video)
- Verge, The (Tom Warren; article, video, Destiny 2 video)
- Yong Yea (preview announcement video)
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Read the updated text, not just the charts. I did compare those two. They were nigh identical for back-compat. Really impressive.
Same! Really hoping it does, or at least gives the option to buy the license if we have to.
Ok, sweet, I must have misread. Thanks for the reply.
So it's true then, that the faster NVMes don't really help load times on games not engineered for it. I suppose Microsoft's choice to include USB 3.2 gen1 ports is actually kind of justified. Perhaps having one faster USB port could have helped with game transfer speeds though.
If games are require a new updating next year chances is no for uhd movies. Just my guess though.
When's the series S preview?!!! Lol series X sounds amazing so far. Is ps5 gonna have a preview week too?
I'm really hoping the 10Gbps ports on PS5 do help with transferring speeds.
Yeah. I haven't seen anything from Giantbomb either; do they have one?
Did anyone compare load times between the series X and the One X with an internal sata SSD? It's the only interesting comparison to compare their specs to load games.
Are there USB SSDs that'll take advantage of that?
Although at that point you're probably spending close to what you'd need for expanding the actual internal storage - those things aren't cheap
60? Isn't that the whole point of most of these games on the previews, they run at 60 where on the One X they ran at 30.
No - the whole point of these games is that if they have unlocked framerates above 30 but rarely reaching 60, they're more likely to be boosted to a locked 60. If a game has a locked framerate on XB1 it'll have a locked framerate on XSX.
So the AC games are locked then? If so that's a shame, it was the games I wanted the most to get a performance boost along with MHW.
I think they're capped. They use dynamic res too and don't always hit 30fps at least on the base consoles. So they should get a framerate boost but only to 30fps. Hopefully also a resolution boost too
no. They can run at 60 when they do not have a frame rate cap.
origins has a frame rate cap.
This must have been discussed but I can't find it sorry....
Does quick resume only work with digital editions of games? If I QR a disc title do I have to jump up and insert the disc too?
Does quick resume only work with digital editions of games? If I QR a disc title do I have to jump up and insert the disc too?
It works with discs too. Lemme find the quote. Yeah, you'll need to get up and insert the disc.
Xbox Series X hands-on: The big back-compat dive begins [Updated]
Xbox Quick Resume impresses. Plus: New controller, auto-HDR, venting holes, and more.
arstechnica.com
I've been quoting this article so damn much in this thread, lol.
samred : great article you did on the preview !
quick question : did you tried quick resume with multiple accounts log in ? Is QR a per account thing (meaning that it could take more SSD space than what you experienced), or is it shared for all users ?
As i share my Xbox with my kid, i would like to be sure if his roblox and fornite sessions won't/will take any extra GB adding to my games :)
quick question : did you tried quick resume with multiple accounts log in ? Is QR a per account thing (meaning that it could take more SSD space than what you experienced), or is it shared for all users ?
As i share my Xbox with my kid, i would like to be sure if his roblox and fornite sessions won't/will take any extra GB adding to my games :)
Much appreciated! That's a good article.It works with discs too. Lemme find the quote. Yeah, you'll need to get up and insert the disc.
Xbox Series X hands-on: The big back-compat dive begins [Updated]
Xbox Quick Resume impresses. Plus: New controller, auto-HDR, venting holes, and more.
I've been quoting this article so damn much in this thread, lol.
