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You're out walking with your toddler, you see an old man wearing all MAGA clothing wipe out in his mobility scooter, what do you do?
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A doctor's and average person's responsibility cannot and should not be compared
And please don't compare say a priest or someone wearing a yarmulke or a cross or a hijab, to someone in modern day Klan robes, that's such a fucked up way to go
In this situation yes. Doing what I believe to be right doesn't mean it has to be easy. I have know how it sounds but it doesn't make it any less true. It's hard as fuck to help someone you hate but until you be surprised what happens to you if you happen to do it. It is never about the world it's about how I can effect what I contact with.
love the people with no skin in the game coming in here to tell us marginalized folk how terrible we are for not helping a bigot.
Honestly you should be ashamed of yourselves. You might not be the people stepping on our necks but you sure have done nothing to stop them from buying the boots.
Honestly you should be ashamed of yourselves. You might not be the people stepping on our necks but you sure have done nothing to stop them from buying the boots.
This is a Maga guy, so he's probably strapped, so you go and try to help him up, his gun goes off and shoots the kid you're babysitting. You don't get to reload that save file. You live with that for the rest of your life.
Again...there is no morally right answer here imo. That's honestly what makes this a pretty interesting thread.
I'd keep it the fuck moving. I have a ton of empathy but not a lot sympathy for these Nazi MAGA fucks given that they're essentially ruining the country and targeting the people I'm most close to. And me. So, too fucking bad.
I'm sure that he'd be really angry a "tr*nny" like me gave him mouth to mouth, so it's better for both of us.
I think most people that would help would ask whether they can help first, i'm not about to go touching anyone without their permission. If he tells me to fuck off i'll be more then happy to do just that.
Wow man just like my viddy games!!!
If I was worried about being shot in America then I wouldn't help anyone I guess. I don't live in a conceal carry state for starters.
Good god, lol!
Between the 99 percent chance that he has COVID and is going to put your kid in ICU or that he's probably strapped and the gun somehow flies out of the holster and blows the kids' head off, this hypothetical feeble old man who fell and can't get up is the world's most dangerous person 😂
I have a 3 year old that likes to run around, I think he would stand still while I helped the guy but if I wasn't sure something might happen to my kid then no. I'd call for help if it was serious.
I don't ever really see MAGA shit where I live though. I've seen flags on homes and bumper stickers but not much more.
lol there was one asshole who had TRUMP all in white in the back of his truck driving through the largely Hispanic places I go to. People were giving him shit lol I haven't seen him since.
I don't ever really see MAGA shit where I live though. I've seen flags on homes and bumper stickers but not much more.
lol there was one asshole who had TRUMP all in white in the back of his truck driving through the largely Hispanic places I go to. People were giving him shit lol I haven't seen him since.
Yeah I don't think I'd have an issue either if his shirt was aimed at me to begin with. Seems like a fairly simple thing to explain to the kid to begin with.
I don't think if I didn't help the guy out it'd be "stopping them from buying the boots" though in my own situation. I've already done several things in my life including severing people who believe this stuff from my life; didn't help. Letting them solve their own problems hasn't helped either. Legitimately the best option forwards I have is actually having a dialog with them, but fuck me if it doesn't feel impossible.
lol what is this
I know a few MAGA shitheads who can ONLY laugh at the misery of others, so he might just assume you're MAGA.
If we're going to do a thought experiment, then let's experiment.
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Uh yeah I can compare them actually. There's years of documented war, rape, stealing, suppression of woman, etc. sound familiar?
One of the several things things that separate me from a MAGA hat moron is that if I saw that happen, I'd offer help and maybe call the police to help them as well. I know that they would never do the same for me. There are subtle differences in when I'll care to help or not, though. If somebody wants to be an anti-vaxxer and chooses to avoid the vaccine and gets sick and dies ... well too bad. Don't really care, better luck next time. But if a terrible person wipes out on their mobility scooter, I'm not just going to let them rot there even if they'd let me rot there.
No, let's not. This is the same "thought experiment" that drives people to become antivax lmao
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MAGA folks have shown themselves to be a dangerous terrorist group. Hell, it wasn't even a year ago they tried to storm the capitol and execute politicians. It is not at all a stretch to assume that they might be carrying a loaded weapon.
Again, I've already said itt, I would be the type of person to try to help. I'm not saying that people shouldn't. It's just there can be ramifications for helping the wrong kinds of people.
So it is your sincere belief that a cross, a star of david, a hijab, etc.... is identical to fascist iconography
I'd help them out; I did help a guy in a MAGA hat when he fell at the grocery store, he said thanks I said no problem and kept it pushing.
Those icons represent religions that have caused all the things I mentioned before. Yet, if one of them were in a wheelchair and fell over I would help pick them up.
even if you assume he's carrying a loaded weapon, you have to jump through several assumptions to reach this. You have to assume it's freely moving in some way. You have to assume the safety is off. You have to assume that there's a possibility for the gun to accidentally fire, and that out of all the different angles it hits your kid???? This "But what if tho..." kind of scenario isn't actual probable reasoning, it's excusive fearmongering of the possibility (note: this is not referring to any danger that would be race related, only white people and the potential of guns) in the same way as "what if vaccines are dangerous?!?! *shrugs* I'm not finding out!"
it's a guy in a mobility scooter, and this isn't a good basis to do anything
I literally can't explain it to you enough how utterly fucked up you are to equate symbols of white supremacy with symbols of Judaism, and I hope you never talk to anyone who would be harmed by your warped perception of reality.
And how to use a word to annoy you, pious you come off acting like it makes you noble for putting that aside to pick them off the ground.
Seek perspective I implore you.
"...because you see there are some terrible people in the world who want you dead or deported because you look different."
You're making plenty of assumptions too though. Like yes, I think if a person is stupid enough to wear MAGA clothes and support Trump they are 100% stupid enough to have a concealed unholstered loaded weapon with the safety turned off. In fact, my assumption that he would, is probably a safer bet than yours that he wouldn't, but regardless, your analogy to vaccine's is insanely off base. There is no reality in which helping this guy up is going to somehow potentially safe your life from a deadly virus. There is no rationale for being fearful of a vaccine, but there is a VERY STRONG rationale for being fearful of the MAGA terrorist group. Because they literally took part in a terrorist attack on the United States less than a year ago.
This whlle thread is a "But what if though?" That's literally the premise of the thread.
And despite all of that, like I say, I would help this person.
Help them. Honestly I know some magas who clearly have some racist shit going on but in truth if they see a person physical in front of them in need, odds are they are going to help regardless.
The problem is when the person they could help is invisible to them.
Also, it don't bode well for the species if any side is drawing lines like this when it comes to helping another person who physically in front of them needs help.
The problem is when the person they could help is invisible to them.
Also, it don't bode well for the species if any side is drawing lines like this when it comes to helping another person who physically in front of them needs help.
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