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YouTube is making dislike private for everyone, will be visible for creators

Helix

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YouTube gives dislikes the thumbs-down, hides public counts

The company says it’s trying to prevent harassment.
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YouTube has announced that it'll be hiding public dislike counts on videos across its site, starting today. The company says the change is to keep smaller creators from being targeted by dislike attacks or harassment, and to promote "respectful interactions between viewers and creators." The dislike button will still be there, but it'll be for private feedback, rather than public shaming.

This move isn't out of the blue. In March, YouTube announced that it was experimenting with hiding the public dislike numbers, and individual creators have long had the ability to hide ratings on their videos. But the fact that the dislike counts will be disappearing for everyone (gradually, according to YouTube) is a big deal — viewers are used to being able to see the like-to-dislike ratio as soon as they click on a video and may use that number to decide whether to continue watching. Now, that will no longer be an option, but it could close off a vector for harassment.
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doops.

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Jun 3, 2020
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This is definitely one of those 'causes more problems than it solves' type of executive decisions
 

IneptEMP

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Jan 14, 2019
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This is absolutely an awful idea. If a video is bad I want to have an idea about it. Instead of spending my time watching it.
 
PlanetSmasher

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Oct 25, 2017
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this is probably just "Disney/WB got mad at us for showing how much people don't like some of our trailers". Cowards.
 
Onix555

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Feel like this is to make alt right, and other stuff in a similar vein, look more accepted than it is.
 
Kinthey

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't see how this really prevents harassment when the person being harassed still sees the dislikes. Wouldn't be surprised if it's more about companies not wanting a big dislike bar below their latest million dollar product
 
Tbm24

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Oct 25, 2017
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IneptEMP said:
This is absolutely an awful idea. If a video is bad I want to have an idea about it. Instead of spending my time watching it.
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I gotta say in all my years of viewing things on YouTube,
I've rarely found the dislike number to actually be reflective of the video, uploaded videos of like news aside.
 
Skytylz

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Oct 25, 2017
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This sucks, a lot of videos are very misleading and when it has 99% thumbs down it's easy to quickly move on.
 
Ashes of Dreams

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May 22, 2020
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Dislikes are a helpful tool to people. If I see dislikes, I often scroll down to see the comments. If comments are turned off, I get very cautious. I've avoided some nasty shit this way.

PlanetSmasher said:
this is probably just "Disney/WB got mad at us for showing how much people don't like some of our trailers". Cowards.
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fucking bingo, that has to be it
 
Rhete

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IneptEMP said:
This is absolutely an awful idea. If a video is bad I want to have an idea about it. Instead of spending my time watching it.
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Yeah, sometimes I stumble upon "quick and easy fixes!" for simple technical problems but they'll have 95% dislikes because the solution doesn't work, it's helpful.
 
Darryl M R

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Oct 25, 2017
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Now I'll have to watch an entire 10+ video to know whether it is a good Excel/Python/R/etc tutorial?

Meh I guess I can start reading comments.
 
Kalor

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Onix555 said:
Feel like this is to make alt right, and other stuff in a similar vein, look more accepted than it is.
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I never click on those videos but I can't imagine there's a massive amount of people bothering to dislike that stuff. It does help videos that are being harassed from the alt right since having a invisible number gives less reason to bother.
 
Saucycarpdog

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Oct 25, 2017
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I remember when the like and dislike bars were colored but they grayed them out so people don't notice the big red bar and leave.
 
BassForever

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Probably for the best, people will actually have to engage with content as opposed to go "10 million dislikes on youtube!"
 
Garp TXB

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This is one of those things I need to think about for a while before having an informed opinion
 
Stay Up Be Easy

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Dec 31, 2017
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Nah If I look up home improvement or how to use a tool or a certain clip of old media that dislike ratio let's me know immediately I'm wasting my time.

You can't read comments or save or mini player what's determined to be "kids" videos.

You can't read comments or save what's determined to be "mature" videos.

Always a fucking solution in search of a problem.

How about make it so users can turn off annotations that take up 3/4 of the fucking screen 30 seconds from the end.
 
cDNA

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Oct 25, 2017
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Good , some video are targeted like recently all The White House ones, they have thousands of dislikes before anyone have any realistic chance to view the videos and no matter what is topic discussed.
 
qaopjlll

qaopjlll

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Oct 27, 2017
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Guess we'll have to use the likes-to-comments ratio now to determine if a video sucks before watching it, a la twitter
 
Dice

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Overall a good idea. It's stupid to see how many progressive videos get "dislike dogpiled" thanks to bandwagon voting.
 
mute

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Big corporate channels don't want to show off how big their mistakes are I guess
 
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