It's joever. I assume devs also would sign something that prevents them to join other emulation teams. 2.4 million is nothing for nintendo, but get rid of yuzu for good is way more important for them.
Yuzu will pay $2.4 million in damages to Nintendo to settle their lawsuit [Yuzu and Citra Emulators to be shut down]
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It's joever. I assume devs also would sign something that prevents them to join other emulation teams. 2.4 million is nothing for nintendo, but get rid of yuzu for good is way more important for them.
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Damn, not really surprising all things considered but I am impressed that it was done so quickly
Yes, and that argument is extremely flimsy as I have repeated multiple times before. The analogy is that telling people where to buy a lockpick and how to use it does not constitute a crime. The DMCA law is incredibly broad and a judgment against Nintendo in a case like this could lead to a narrowing of the scope of the DMCA which no company wants.
There were people in the other thread saying this was only related to Yuzu but watch Nintendo go after Ryujinx next.
When people talk about game preservation I think they are talking about the ability to play their games in a distant future, not of Nintendo's ability to sell you the same game you bought 20 years ago because they kept the source code
It also could be that they were like "shrug, we had a good run", they pay off Nintendo two milly and then retire on whatever else they had.
But the fact that this terminates any future profits, my guess was, they new Nintendo was going to win.
And for people being like "why nintendo not do $100M? They must have known they didn't have a case to settle so low!" because Nintendo doesn't want to drag this out forever. What Nintendo wants is the shutdown of the emulator and to send a signal that it's not going to be profitable for future emulators to take up the mantle. $2.4M sends a clear enough signal and the injunction is made.
I don't know much about the switch emulator scene but looking at it, aren't they also blocking the tools to pull the bios and games too? That feels like they could go after anyone trying to create an emulation scene. No point in the emulator if you can't pull the data for use.
That's fair. I was mostly kidding because people took them hiring a lawyer meaning they were confident against Nintendo or whatever.
It's just an example of people projecting the outcome they want. Instead of actually looking at what's in front of them.
If you judge "not been ok" by what Nintendo is willing to go after with limitless money against people who dont want to be drawn into endless legal battles, sure.
But an emulator of a current gen console is not any less legal than that of an older one.
Sure, but I'm just saying that the permanent injunction sort of contradicts your final reasoning. If Nintendo's reasoning was flimsy and they risked it in court being extended, I really doubt Yuzu would've settled outside of monetary compensation.
this. People forget that Switch is still their current console.
And that's how we got the Mana collection since SQEX had lost the source code for those games... it's a real shame we can't have all the games on their vault available, at least the 1st party ones... specially the Satellaview versions, those deserve to be seen by everyone.
What bluff? Yuzu folded completely. This is monetary compensation and p.injunction (all dev on Yuzu ceases and they have to delete all data they have).
From looking at their Patreon it's extraordinarily doubtful they had anything close to $2m. No one is going to be retiring here.
Yeah I'm with you here but I was kind of scared to say it as we have some very passionate people who disagree strongly
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Yuzu to be shut down
No, they aren't blocking anything.This is a settlement.
Read it as the yuzu devs saying "We agree to destroy these tools because nintendo demands so and we give up". No one is saying "it is now determined that these tools are illegal". That has not happened.
Bluff? I don't think that permanent injunction is calling a bluff at all. The one in the first post.
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Praying to whatever god possible to ensure Switch 2 flops
My guess is they just dissolve the company and Nintendo gets whatever they have.
Wouldn't that be worse for everyone?
This is straight up not even close to being true in any way shape or form. Please don't spread misinformation like that
They release progress reports every 2-3 months instead of every month now, but that's it. Development is alive and well. Tons of improvements have been made, and they release a new build almost daily.
By default Dolphin auto-updates to the beta channel, which gets new releases when a new progress report is published, which means a new build every 2-3 months. This already isn't even close to "barely being updated", but you can switch to the development channel instead and get auto-updates almost every day, sometimes multiple times a day.
Yuzu development went into overdrive the moment the game got leaked on May 1st... Yuzu EA-3555 fixed the fucked up grass that people were complaining about and that was released on May 4th. There's way more examples of other unreleased games I can't be arsed to list off but if any of this came up in court they know they'd get cooked which is why they rightfully fell back.
It does but doesn't seem like it because there's not much more to update apart from miniscule highly specific things, not because they don't make money. The amount of shit you can do with Dolphin is mind blowing. There was a time before the store closed where you could connect to the Wii shop channel, add real money, buy and download games directly from Nintendo through it.
Clear cut case of using copyrighted code. Emulation is legal but ONLY if you reverse engineer it and don't use Nintendo's proprietary decrypting software/code.
To be clear I'm not taking Nintendo's side, but am rather disappointed that Yuzu went this route in the first place. It's against the entire spirit of emulation and why it takes years and hundreds of people giving their own time to something the companies won't do themselves.
To be clear I'm not taking Nintendo's side, but am rather disappointed that Yuzu went this route in the first place. It's against the entire spirit of emulation and why it takes years and hundreds of people giving their own time to something the companies won't do themselves.
It's not a legal precedent but people will think twice before dabbling into "Patreon" emulation now. Unless they want summons from Nintendo.
This was more or less all set up so that the team behind Yuzu are legally bound and unable to make an emulator for the Switch 2.
