Jon Stewart returns to 'Daily Show' as Monday host from Feb 12 through the election cycle. Will be executive producer.

[sandyph]

There is a long history of minority communities in the US being oppressed by the government for speaking out against injustice here and abroad.

You don't want justice or liberation- you just want revenge.

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revenge for whom ?
for the millions that murdered in my country because US branded them communist during cold war ?
for the tens of thousands that died in Palestine in the past few months ?

those two things are half of century apart which clearly show that doing genocide oversea is just what USA stands for

the only sliver of hope the rest of the world have is for USA to be so busy on their domestic affair that they don't have time to continue their genocide elsewhere

 

[Grudy]

If Biden wins with his current stance on Gaza, then Gaza will be disappear. He must feel the heat and do his part to deescalate the conflict and help the Palestinian people before the elections or else he will only be emboldened to make it worse. He must face SOME consequences for what he is enabling every day.

Otherwise it will only be haunting to see the celebrations of his victory while people are starved and killed and erased. It's sickining.

 

[spam musubi]

If Biden wins with his current stance on Gaza, then Gaza will be disappear. He must feel the heat and do his part to deescalate the conflict and help the Palestinian people before the elections or else he will only be emboldened to make it worse. He must face SOME consequences for what he is enabling every day.

Otherwise it will only be haunting to see the celebrations of his victory while people are starved and killed and erased. It's sickining.

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To be honest I don't think Gaza will last until the election.

 

[Archduke Kong]

Yup, it's the old trick.

"Okay this guy is a murderous prick who killed thousands of people, that's bad. But on the other hand the other guy once ignored a baby. Imagine how many other babies he ignored we don't know of! They are both bad."

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It's a little tougher for people when both options are murderous pricks (though if someone wants to explain why his response to Gaza doesn't make Biden one, please, I genuinely want to hear it)

For the record I think Trump is the worse outcome of the two for the state of the country, but ignoring the murder of the greater world just because we don't live there is insane to me. Imagine we were getting bombed by another country and the people that voted for the guy who did it said "ok but our other option would have killed US, and we like being alive, please understand"

 

[Titanpaul]

Oh boy another thread that has ended up in circular genocide commentary. Tomorrow's episode should give this thread a shift, if only for a day.

Curious what the monologue will be about.

 

[Loud Wrong]

Biden is the eat shit candidate
Trump is the eat shit and die candidate.
Both are bad, but one is way worse than the other.

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If you have family or friends in Gaza, Biden is very much a eat shit and die candidate too.

Oh boy another thread that has ended up in circular genocide commentary. Tomorrow's episode should give this thread a shift, if only for a day.

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Jon touched on it in the first episode, albeit briefly. I'm hoping he explores it more in depth soon.

 

[Deleted member 8750]

You think people in Palestine don't want the U.S. to stop arming Israel? They're just driven by revenge?

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My interpretation was that he wants Americans to feel actual empathy for the victims of genocide.

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revenge for whom ?
for the millions that murdered in my country because US branded them communist during cold war ?
for the tens of thousands that died in Palestine in the past few months ?

those two things are half of century apart which clearly show that doing genocide oversea is just what USA stands for

the only sliver of hope the rest of the world have is for USA to be so busy on their domestic affair that they don't have time to continue their genocide elsewhere

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Many minorities currently living in the US originate from countries negatively impacted by what the US government has done abroad and/or still have relatives living there. They have had the most empathy for other groups who are victims of genocide as they have also been targeted for persecution. Black, LGBT, etc. Americans have been the harshest critics of US foreign policy.

Hoping that the US collapses into full fascism and becomes too busy committing genocide on the minorities within its own borders instead of doing it elsewhere is extremely gross. History has shown that countries engaged in atrocities against their own population will often commit those same atrocities abroad.

 

[Duane]

If Biden wins with his current stance on Gaza, then Gaza will be disappear. He must feel the heat and do his part to deescalate the conflict and help the Palestinian people before the elections or else he will only be emboldened to make it worse. He must face SOME consequences for what he is enabling every day.

Otherwise it will only be haunting to see the celebrations of his victory while people are starved and killed and erased. It's sickining.

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Sadly, if Biden LOSES, Gaza will disappear, too. In no reality would Trump's support of Israel be less than Biden's. Trump would probably actively DIScourage a ceasefire and/or deploy US assets directly into the mix.

In fact, there's no need to speculate - we saw four years of Trump's stance on Israel/Palestine. He moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem, he cut US funding of UNRWA, and he broke "deals" that claimed to be good for Palestinians but were in actuality a complete screw job, basically boiling down to more concessions from Gaza to Israel than ever.

Yes, Biden does deserve every last bit of criticism for contributing to Isreal's activities over the last 4 months, and he deserves to lose his re-election over it. But if he does, it will 100% be even worse for Gaza.

 

[Elry09]

Sadly, if Biden LOSES, Gaza will disappear, too. In no reality would Trump's support of Israel be less than Biden's. Trump would probably actively DIScourage a ceasefire and/or deploy US assets directly into the mix.

In fact, there's no need to speculate - we saw four years of Trump's stance on Israel/Palestine. He moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem, he cut US funding of UNRWA, and he broke "deals" that claimed to be good for Palestinians but were in actuality a complete screw job, basically boiling down to more concessions from Gaza to Israel than ever.

Yes, Biden does deserve every last bit of criticism for contributing to Isreal's activities over the last 4 months, and he deserves to lose his re-election over it. But if he does, it will 100% be even worse for Gaza.

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Yep if Trump wins it will 100% be worse for Gaza, worse for LGBTQ+ citizens, worse for minorities, worse for America and worse for the world

 

[Grug]

Many minorities currently living in the US originate from countries negatively impacted by what the US government has done abroad and/or still have relatives living there. They have had the most empathy for other groups who are victims of genocide as they have also been targeted for persecution. Black, LGBT, etc. Americans have been the harshest critics of US foreign policy.

Hoping that the US collapses into full fascism and becomes too busy committing genocide on the minorities within its own borders instead of doing it elsewhere is extremely gross. History has shown that countries engaged in atrocities against their own population will often commit those same atrocities abroad.

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I don't think for a second people were saying they hope the US collapses into full blown fascism let alone think that would improve their situation.

I think their point is that when the system has eroded to the point that the lesser-of-two evils is a genocidal neo-liberal, you can't blame people for criticising the entire system. Trump is an existential threat but it is absolutely clear that he is a symptom, not the disease.

Do we want our media heroes to just be the propaganda wing of the lesser-of-two evils or do we want them to fulfil their full fourth-estate obligations and hold the entire system to account?

Jon's getting old, and he wants his legacy to be something truly important and lasting. He's going to start swinging and I'm here for it.

 

[Deleted member 8750]

I don't think for a second people were saying they hope the US collapses into full blown fascism let alone think that would improve their situation.

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That user literally posted:

"the only sliver of hope the rest of the world have is for USA to be so busy on their domestic affair that they don't have time to continue their genocide elsewhere"

There is no other way to interpret that.

 

[Hrist]

"the only sliver of hope the rest of the world have is for USA to be so busy on their domestic affair that they don't have time to continue their genocide elsewhere"

There is no other way to interpret that.

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There's many other ways to interprete it.

The alternative to throwing people abroad into the meatgrinder isn't throwing people in the US into it, it's stopping the meatgrinder.

The billions going to fund the ongoing genocide could go into healthcare, into improving infrastructure, into fighting climate change. The US would have many things to fix within its own border, from climate change to systemic racism to out-of-control gun culture.

Biden may be a horrible monster(he is, objectively, tbh), but his own party *could* apply pressure there. That's possible. It has been possible for months. People wanting that are not wrong. The dem politicans not doing so are what's wrong in this picture.

People that rather defend the god-king against every single criticism are part of the problem. You're eroding your own voter base and scaring away allies and I fear the stance of US liberals on this - outright maliciously telling people to vote for Biden or shut up - will cost Biden the election. Trump must not be elected, we'll all be completely screwed if he does get the win (I may not be American, but trump getting elected will probably ensure I'll have a fascist government within the decade), but alienating swathes of minorities in swing states sure isn't helping.

This is not the fault of the minority groups getting alienated, it's the fault of the party for not putting pressure on Biden. It's the job of the dems to actually be electable. "We will continue to kill your families, but think of the other families of other people that may not die!" is not a reasonable way to get voters. It's a complete failure of strategy that might screw us all.

 

[Deleted member 8750]

There's many other ways to interprete it.

The alternative to throwing people abroad into the meatgrinder isn't throwing people in the US into it, it's stopping the meatgrinder.

The billions going to fund the ongoing genocide could go into healthcare, into improving infrastructure, into fighting climate change. The US would have many things to fix within its own border, from climate change to systemic racism to out-of-control gun culture.

Biden may be a horrible monster(he is, objectively, tbh), but his own party *could* apply pressure there. That's possible. It has been possible for months. People wanting that are not wrong. The dem politicans not doing so are what's wrong in this picture.

People that rather defend the god-king against every single criticism are part of the problem. You're eroding your own voter base and scaring away allies and I fear the stance of US liberals on this - outright maliciously telling people to vote for Biden or shut up - will cost Biden the election. Trump must not be elected, we'll all be completely screwed if he does get the win (I may not be American, but trump getting elected will probably ensure I'll have a fascist government within the decade), but alienating swathes of minorities in swing states sure isn't helping.

This is not the fault of the minority groups getting alienated, it's the fault of the party for not putting pressure on Biden. It's the job of the dems to actually be electable. "We will continue to kill your families, but think of the other families of other people that may not die!" is not a reasonable way to get voters. It's a complete failure of strategy that might screw us all.

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This is not about Joe Biden. This is about a poster blatantly hoping that the US is turned into a warzone and a bunch of vulnerable minorities are killed because they want revenge for what the US government did to their country during the Cold War. It's disgusting.

 

[TheDestructiveSquirrel]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM2h3KnWAWY

Jon Stewart on Tucker Carlson’s Putin Interview & Trip to Russia | The Daily Show

In response to online backlash over his criticism of Joe Biden last week, Jon studies Tucker Carlson's interview with Vladimir Putin in Russia for a lesson i...

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Nice, if they keep uploading it right away us Canadians can watch :)

 

[Bengraven]

lol calling us out.

Funny he mentioned the controversy.

 

[TheDestructiveSquirrel]

Uhhhh do they not have that style of shopping cart coin system and escalator in the US or is Tucker just showing how elite and out of touch he is?

Cause we've had those in Canada forever lol

 

[BabyDontHurtMe]

Uhhhh do they not have that style of shopping cart coin system and escalator in the US or is Tucker just showing how elite and out of touch he is?

Cause we've had those in Canada forever lol

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Yeah the coin system is at our local Aldi's lmao. Tucker is such a bootlicker

 

[Volimar]

I doubt Tucker has any idea what things actually cost in a store.

 

[TheDestructiveSquirrel]

Yeah the coin system is at our local Aldi's lmao. Tucker is such a bootlicker

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The coin system mostly got replaced by the newer system where the wheels lock in place if you leave the parking lot

That would blow Tucker's mind :o

 

[Keywork]

The coin system mostly got replaced by the newer system where the wheels lock in place if you leave the parking lot

That would blow Tucker's mind :o

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Yep all of my local Publixes use this system. They have signs all over the parking lot warning you about the wheel locks.

 

[Bengraven]

Damn, that was an effective little bit about the new war against woke. We all knew that the right was cozying up to dictators that puts a bit of context on it for those who might not have been paying as much attention.

 

[ChaosXVI]

Another great week! I'll never not enjoy watching Jon hand Tucker Carlson's ass to him.

Has Tucker never been to an Aldi? Actually…that's not surprising at all actually.

 

[Bengraven]

Another great week! I'll never not enjoy watching Jon hand Tucker Carlson's ass to him.

Has Tucker never been to an Aldi? Actually…that's not surprising at all actually.

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I'm sure he would never go to a Target because of the swimwear, but I could imagine him having his mind blown that they now have cell phone cubbies.

"Look at how incredible Russia is!"
"Mr Carlson, this is St Paul. Minnesota. In America."

 

[Deleted member 8750]

Good episode that really is the Daily Show at its best. It pulls you in with the comedy and ends on a serious note. Genuinely upsetting to see those protestors get manhandled by the police. Navalny's death is a tragedy because he and countless others that we don't know about have been silenced by Putin.

 

[papertowel]

Watching Tucker go grocery shopping, I kept thinking "this fucking guy has never gone grocery shopping before has he?"

 

[Mr Paptimus]

Watching Tucker go grocery shopping, I kept thinking "this fucking guy has never gone grocery shopping before has he?"

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A reminder that hes the heir to the frozen foos company that made tv dinners a thing. He was richer then shit before he ever put on his first bow tie.

He's the 'how much could a single banana cost' meme come to life.

 

[refusi0n1]

Really enjoyed and missed stewart taking tucker apart

 

[Hellwarden]

Tucker going to Russia and getting hard at Soviet architecture is incredible really.

Dude hates America's multiculturalism so much, he's willing to go full sycophant for a guy who kills his political rivals.

 

[Darkgran]

Watching Tucker go grocery shopping, I kept thinking "this fucking guy has never gone grocery shopping before has he?"

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Never.

 

[grand]

Tucker Carlson being unaware of basic features at an Aldi's might be the most hilariously damning thing lol

 

[ohkay]

Those shopping carts with the coin release have existed for like 30 years. Dude is so clueless about what life is like when you're not absurdly wealthy your whole life

 

[Belfast]

Part of me wants to know if Jon ever thinks about what would've happened to Tucker if he hadn't torpedoed Crossfire way back in the day (as much as it may have been deserved).

 

[sandyph]

[edited to stop derailing]

I haven't seen all the Tucker stuffs from the previous week and seeing it first time on a Daily Show episode feel somehow nostalgic.

 

[B-Dubs]

oh my god, can you all stop derailing the thread with the gaza discussion? The thread literally about The Daily Show so stop the derail already unless it's actually discussed on the show.

 

[noquarter]

Uhhhh do they not have that style of shopping cart coin system and escalator in the US or is Tucker just showing how elite and out of touch he is?

Cause we've had those in Canada forever lol

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The escalator we have, at least at the stores I've been to that have a single escalator like that. We also have some where the cart has its own escalator, allows for people to pass you on the escalator that people are on. Pretty amazing.

The coins is pretty old, most places have the wheel locks now. I think the last time I went to Aldis is the last time I saw the coin one. I prefer the coin one, since it encourages people to put carts back.

 

[loco]

Awesome episode and hella funny too on the Tucker parts. Tucker reminds me of those try hard douche tankies that YouTube their North Korea vacations as a modern marvel the whole world needs to follow

 

[BlackRainbowFT]

The escalator we have, at least at the stores I've been to that have a single escalator like that. We also have some where the cart has its own escalator, allows for people to pass you on the escalator that people are on. Pretty amazing.

The coins is pretty old, most places have the wheel locks now. I think the last time I went to Aldis is the last time I saw the coin one. I prefer the coin one, since it encourages people to put carts back.

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In Switzerland I've seen shopping carts with both.

In a nearby mall they have 2 types of carts that both require a coin (one is for groceries, the other is closer to a flatbed cart for carrying larger items from the gardening and diy store). Since they don't want you to take the escalator with the second type of cart (I assume they think heavy items are going to fall off the cart), they have a magnetized area around the escalator that lock your wheels and prevent you from taking it (there's an elevator next to it)

Edit: on topic, I've always hated Carlson and somehow he manages to become even more pathetic as time goes by. I'm glad Jon is back.

 

[Staf]

God damn Jon is good..

 

[PJV3]

Enjoyed the Tucker section, it could have gone on longer and smacked him around even more but that's just what i'm into.

 

[Fat4all]

fresh bread doesn't smell good in America and that's just a fact

Joe Biden is making my breads smell bad

 

[Tamanon]

Honestly, I thought the Tucker section dragged. I think Jon still needs to work on his timing and delivery more. Right now, it's not that much different than a regular late night monologue, complete with pretty soft targeting.

 

[Bengraven]

Tucker is risking everything to prevent Red Dawn from happening.

No, not the invasion by Russia.

The part where we go off into the woods and fight back against them.

 

[Empyrean Cocytus]

Tucker is risking everything to prevent Red Dawn from happening.

No, not the invasion by Russia.

The part where we go off into the woods and fight back against them.

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If that's the case, Wolverines.

 

[Bengraven]

If that's the case, Wolverines.

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We would need to be the best there is at what we do.

 

[Sanjuro]

Another solid episode from Jon.

I actually liked how he opened with the "both sides" and the dying medium discussion. I see people indicating how powerful Jon's influence is going to be and point out he is preempted by generally puppets and Jim Halpert.

 

[Batatina]

Unfortunately here in the UK I only have access to clips, but I loved what I watched so far. Really miss Jon Stewart in this role.

 

[Scuffed]

I liked the opening a lot. Him addressing the freak out and calling TV a dying medium then saying "it was never my intention to say out loud what I saw with my eyes and my brain." That was all good stuff but very brief.

The rest was all the Tucker interview which was such a joke on it's face that putting Jon on it felt like a waste because the material writes itself and could have been done by anyone. I know he has a history with Tucker but it was the whole segment and every joke about that interview has already been made because it was like 10 days ago. So meh.

 

[Scottoest]

Those shopping carts with the coin release have existed for like 30 years. Dude is so clueless about what life is like when you're not absurdly wealthy your whole life

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I never saw the part about the carts, but yeah that was also my reaction - we've had those coin release carts forever here. They aren't some novel technology, lol.

I feel like he outed himself as being comically disconnected from the average human being with that one.

 

[Scottoest]

Honestly, I thought the Tucker section dragged. I think Jon still needs to work on his timing and delivery more. Right now, it's not that much different than a regular late night monologue, complete with pretty soft targeting.

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It's worth keeping in mind that his writing staff are probably dramatically different than before too, since I believe a lot of them went to Oliver, Colbert, Sam Bee, etc.

 

[poptire]

Correctly framing the conservative love of Russia as "woke vs unwoke" hopefully jars loose some braincells on that side of the aisle and more people realize how dangerous that mentality is