Yeah. I hear you, and that's certainly a more cogent analysis than my instantly emotional one. I can't stand this stuff and beyond that, how much money it makes.
Mufasa: The Lion King | Teaser Trailer | Dec 20 | Directed by Barry Jenkins
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Oh look a non-royal orphan becomes part of the royal system to oppress all the other Lions but this is a good thing right because he's a good person and he's the one who taught us all the way of the circle of life... IN FLASHBACKS!
And of course they want more than Manuel songs because we haven't been tired of it yet Disney. -_- there's only one ethnic composer that can DEFINITELY emulate African music :/ (yeah believe it or not I'm sour about him doing Pacific islander inspired musicbut that's a whole other thing)
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Definitely going to be waiting on the reviews on this I'm not going to go out of my way but I guarantee you they're going to merchandise this the hell in theaters. I mean IF already has those popcorn things and blankets and those are actually selling decently. And that's a random movie! (I expected people to be gobbling up Garfield stuff though cuz that's always the nature!)
At least December will end up an interesting note. This and Sonic and... Something else I can't remember
And of course they want more than Manuel songs because we haven't been tired of it yet Disney. -_- there's only one ethnic composer that can DEFINITELY emulate African music :/ (yeah believe it or not I'm sour about him doing Pacific islander inspired musicbut that's a whole other thing)
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Definitely going to be waiting on the reviews on this I'm not going to go out of my way but I guarantee you they're going to merchandise this the hell in theaters. I mean IF already has those popcorn things and blankets and those are actually selling decently. And that's a random movie! (I expected people to be gobbling up Garfield stuff though cuz that's always the nature!)
At least December will end up an interesting note. This and Sonic and... Something else I can't remember
This realistic cg, no matter how good it looks, will just never be able to wow me compared to even movies from 20+ years ago that were 2d aninlmated for example. Old Disney, Ghibli etc. are just so much more visually stunning than soullessly replicating real life.
have everyone be CGI but Keith David just be his RL person and no one talks about it
greatest movie ever then
greatest movie ever then
I'm actually excited for this. A "live action" movie that tells a brand new story. Good director, you got lin Manuel, looks gorgeous. I'm here
I'd love to see a cartoon remake of Coming to America but told with the Lion King characters.
Mufasa: "My son works?!?!?!"
Mufasa: "My son works?!?!?!"
Barry Jenkins, Lin-Manuel Miranda, James Laxton, Nicholas Britell, Pharrell Williams, Hans Zimmer, Mads Mikkelsen, Seth Rogen, Thandiwe Newton, Donald Glover, Beyoncé, Billy Eichner...
Rarely have so many talented people gathered on a project so fundamentally uninteresting. Basically everyone involved except the writer (Jeff Nathanson of PotC: Dead Men Tell No Tales and Speed 2 fame) is great.
Rarely have so many talented people gathered on a project so fundamentally uninteresting. Basically everyone involved except the writer (Jeff Nathanson of PotC: Dead Men Tell No Tales and Speed 2 fame) is great.
Man what a waste of Barry Jenkins. I hope he got a nice fat bag for this. I swear it looks worse visually than 2019, though that could just be YouTube compression. The shots and composition looks way more cartoony, but not in a cool way.
No idea. Kiara is in Lion Guard as the older sister, but obviously it was mainly Kion's show. They did make a point, though, that Kiara would be Queen of the Pridelands. Kion was just set up to be an enforcer if one wanted a jaded take of it.
Yay for little nephews forcing me to watch that show.
I actually liked this teaser. It looks better and more colorful than the remake, and all the characters seem to be more expressive. The creative team also inspires trust that this will be at least interesting.
Looks pretty lame.
Seems like there's no art direction at all - basically let's make completely accurate CGI animals and make them talk.
At least the previous film adapted the classic story we all know and love, but this one is just a national geographic production for all we care.
Seems like there's no art direction at all - basically let's make completely accurate CGI animals and make them talk.
At least the previous film adapted the classic story we all know and love, but this one is just a national geographic production for all we care.
Slow down now. Next thing you know, animals will start questioning why only lions are in charge.
It's so depressing that this will likely make a billion dollars. Creatively bankrupt doesn't even begin to describe this.
Why DOES it say Oprhan as one of the keywords in the poster when the cast list has a Mother and Father for Mufasa in them?
Are we upping Mufasa's death by having both Father and Mother die this time around?
Are we upping Mufasa's death by having both Father and Mother die this time around?
I'm mostly amused. Visually it didn't wow me like the original did, but CG might not be finished at this point. LMM is a surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one, and if he delivers he will probably be this movie's secret weapon.
The plot? I'm mostly curious about how much it will contradict established lore (which I've always been into, but now everyone suddenly cares about too?) and how much it will make Mufasa look like an asshole and Scar look like he was in the right. But hey, they're doing their own thing, I can respect that. Still seems like a Disney+ watch to me, and I can't remember the last Disney movie I thought this about.
The plot? I'm mostly curious about how much it will contradict established lore (which I've always been into, but now everyone suddenly cares about too?) and how much it will make Mufasa look like an asshole and Scar look like he was in the right. But hey, they're doing their own thing, I can respect that. Still seems like a Disney+ watch to me, and I can't remember the last Disney movie I thought this about.
Aside from just being exhausted by the endless continuation of franchises well past their expiration date, the photorealistic look on these movies just really mutes any sense of interest or dynamism they're trying to convey in the story. It's just so boring to watch, even as a 90 second trailer.
We'll see. I have no idea how this is gonna go. It's riding on one of Disney's most successful brands, so that's not nothing, but it's also a movie that no one asked for, and Disney is on a bit of a losing streak. If it's good I think it'll do really well, if it's bad I think it'll have a really good opening weekend.
The thread where people voted that they think Sonic 3 is going to do better than this is still hilarious
People said that because there wasn't a confirmed cast or songwriter it couldn't be said for sure that this would have big names, and people didn't even know it existed yet. Well, now we know it has big names and it's going to be marketed heavily for 8 months, so! LMM original songs, probably a Beyoncé one as well, and it's a prequel that tells us about Mufasa and Scar's origins? This is going to kill at the box office. Sure the trailer looks ugly. I still hate the photorealistic animation. But the first looked the same and audiences flocked to it.
People said that because there wasn't a confirmed cast or songwriter it couldn't be said for sure that this would have big names, and people didn't even know it existed yet. Well, now we know it has big names and it's going to be marketed heavily for 8 months, so! LMM original songs, probably a Beyoncé one as well, and it's a prequel that tells us about Mufasa and Scar's origins? This is going to kill at the box office. Sure the trailer looks ugly. I still hate the photorealistic animation. But the first looked the same and audiences flocked to it.
Idk if it's a full retcon. They're just making it that he was adopted. Otherwise it's stuff we already know: he's the older brother to Taka/Scar, they have a falling out over ascendancy
Yeah. Like I said before, not only would I be willing to bet this does better than Sonic 3, I'd be willing to bet it doubles Sonic 3's WW numbers. People need to be for real. Beyonce and Blue Ivy are gonna be doing promo for this. There's clearly a market for these photorealistic animal adventure movies, especially overseas. Life of Pi did $600M+, Jungle Book did almost a billion, the first "live action" LK did a billion overseas alone.
I'm just happy for Barry Jenkins. I hope this gives him a blank check to get some other projects off the ground.
Yeah Sonic's not beating this lol
"Without a drop of nobility in his blood" is an excellent hook for people who enjoy the shakespear-esque elements of the original Lion King, and LMM sounds like a great get on top of all the big name voice actors.
Maybe this would have had a chance at bombing if the trailers presented it worse than this, but imo this doesn't look like one at the moment. Can see it clearing $600 million easy
"Without a drop of nobility in his blood" is an excellent hook for people who enjoy the shakespear-esque elements of the original Lion King, and LMM sounds like a great get on top of all the big name voice actors.
Maybe this would have had a chance at bombing if the trailers presented it worse than this, but imo this doesn't look like one at the moment. Can see it clearing $600 million easy
Nope.
The last three traditionally-animated films greenlit for production from WDAS:
Winnie the Pooh (2011): $30 million
The Princess and the Frog (2009): $100 million
Brother Bear (2003): $46 million
[Note: Home on the Range --$110 million-- was released after Brother Bear in 2004, but it entered production years before Brother Bear and lasted longer in development (due to it being revised from its original "Sweating Bullets" concept).]
The previous three theatrical live-action/CG adaptations of the Disney Animated Canon:
The Little Mermaid (2023): $240 million
Mulan (2020): $200 million
The Lion King (2019): $250-$260 million
[Bonus: Pinocchio was released for Disney+, but it has a listed budget of $150 million.]
Moana 2 was originally a Disney+ series that ended up being reworked/fast-tracked into a feature film, and Miranda was likely pretty busy during both the phases when it was developed as a series (In the Heights, Vivo, Encanto) and when it was being reformulated into a feature film (Wish and Mufasa). I'm sure if Disney had greenlit Moana 2 as a new standalone project, I'm sure they would they would had asked Miranda to return as a composer once his work on the latter two were complete.
The last three traditionally-animated films greenlit for production from WDAS:
Winnie the Pooh (2011): $30 million
The Princess and the Frog (2009): $100 million
Brother Bear (2003): $46 million
[Note: Home on the Range --$110 million-- was released after Brother Bear in 2004, but it entered production years before Brother Bear and lasted longer in development (due to it being revised from its original "Sweating Bullets" concept).]
The previous three theatrical live-action/CG adaptations of the Disney Animated Canon:
The Little Mermaid (2023): $240 million
Mulan (2020): $200 million
The Lion King (2019): $250-$260 million
[Bonus: Pinocchio was released for Disney+, but it has a listed budget of $150 million.]
Moana 2 was originally a Disney+ series that ended up being reworked/fast-tracked into a feature film, and Miranda was likely pretty busy during both the phases when it was developed as a series (In the Heights, Vivo, Encanto) and when it was being reformulated into a feature film (Wish and Mufasa). I'm sure if Disney had greenlit Moana 2 as a new standalone project, I'm sure they would they would had asked Miranda to return as a composer once his work on the latter two were complete.
I cried in 1994 and this trailer almost made me cry again today.
As long as they do a good job on the story and pacing...I don't care...this already looks perfect from an IQ and visual perspective.
I don't think it was ever a film solely focused on Scar, when it was first announced it was billed as Mufasa's origin story. But Scar is a main character in this, he's the Taka referenced in the synopsis.
Last one made 1B,of course they are going to drain that cow.
The success of Mario and Spider-Verse has to send a message, I hope. Animation is (relatively) cheap, and in this modern era with budgets ballooning out of control, everyone stands to benefit. Maybe instead of greenlighting the next stupidly expensive Indiana Jones, an X-Men 97 movie can get a spot on the release calendar. Honestly kinda amazing that Disney hasn't tried "animated Marvel" at the theatres yet.
Miranda again … facepalm