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Walgreens to Close 5 Stores in San Francisco, Citing ‘Organized’ Shoplifting
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Damn near every jurisdiction in the country has police that won't go after petty crimes. This isn't unique to SF.
I wouldn't be surprised. Police do this fairly often as they control crime statistics as it is.
These are felonies, except one that I can tell, so the fake news is the narrative that the DA isn't prosecuting enough misdemeanors. Seems like the police aren't enforcing the laws. Why? Not sure.
Maybe don't steal. I've seen morons online having their friends record them stealing for social media clout. A lot of stores started arming their security guards because people heard there'd be no punishment for stealing. Imagine being a business owner and having thieves walk out of your store without paying. Stealing should be ok though right guys?
That post didn't show any national comparison data that I could see when it comes to jurisdictions prosecuting petty crimes. In my experience, you get to fill out an online form and that's about as far as it goes. Article also seems to show that crimes like shoplifting are down quite a bit in SF. Around 14%.
Just seems like there is more going on beyond petty theft issues causing a store closure.
This is an odd take. I don't think anyone is saying stealing is a good thing.
Many of us don't trust large corporations, media at large, nor police to tell the whole truth.
And some of us, myself included, think the bigger problem is racial and wealth inequality in SF as well as the fact that wage theft from workers is far more costly than any of this.
Income Inequality does not justify brazen theft. If you need to steal a loaf of bread to survive etc. sure that's one thing. raiding stores and grabbing whatever you can get your hands on so you can then sell it for 2-3 times the price on amazon is inexcusable and sure as fuck has moves well beyond any sort of moral justifications people may try to dig up
Nobody is arguing that theft is justified, but there has always been a tangible link between crime in general and poverty rates.
Well that depends. If someone lives in SF and has had to experience things? Yes, it's a problem. If not, it's not a problem, and hey, why aren't we talking about wage theft and income inequality instead?
I know a lot of retail chains have a "do not confront" policy for shoplifting now. If you catch or suspect theft all you can do is just quietly report it to the manager. At least in my experience, all the valuable stuff was locked up and if people stole minor items it wouldn't hurt the bottom line and it's not worth getting the cops involved.
I remember some of my conservative coworkers making a big stink about this, and how California was a lawless shit hole under democratic leadership or whatever.
I remember some of my conservative coworkers making a big stink about this, and how California was a lawless shit hole under democratic leadership or whatever.
Because this thread isn't about that? Both can and are problematic.
Because if someone has to physically defend the store's property and gets injured doing so the company could have a big lawsuit on their hands. They'll easily eat the shrink than risk that.
I was being facetious. Lots of people who don't live in SF always looking to change the subject.
One is far more problematic than the other. The media at large wants us to be upset over this but says nothing about wage theft which is far worse. We need to ask why that is.
Well, why aren't the police doing anything about this? It isn't about misdemeanors since it's, according to the article in the OP, attributed to organized crime. It seems the idea that the DA isn't prosecuting misdemeanors isn't it. So what is it?
This isn't a Walgreens thing, its a staffing thing. All of these companies are complicit in the rise of ORC simply because there is no one on the floor to deter this kind of theft. It would be silly to think that all of ORC activities would be halted by having one more Walgreens employee on the floor, but it would certainly help in reducing some ORC hits.
Reading our local Nextdoor there have been topics about people seeing theft. Some real weirdos wanting employees to be allowed to tase people until the police arrive.
New contender for worst post of the year.
Maybe read some of the thread next time.
how are you not factoring in rent cost at a store in san francisco? if it was a walgreens in any other place they would likely just stay open but i bet the rent in those locations is likely double or triple what they would be in other places.
EDIT: Misread.
I do wonder about the other stores in SF. What are their rates like? Why are they still open?
^yeah zero'd and penny'd items are where it's at!
i remember when I used to work retail and we had some known thieves that would come in and take shelf full of clothes. it was a headache and just kept corporate up our ass all the time.
At Costco we had people pull a "rear exit" all the time.
They'd load up a cart with a bunch of high value items, then dash for the exit in the back where there was a waiting car, made the alarm go off, but fuck all else happened.
I don't think they got caught once.
Didn't Target start closing their stores there extremely early because of this?
Are you a Walgreens shareholder by any chance
Weird how none of the articles mention the local community outreach Walgreens is funding, all the work they do to give back to the community
Holy SHIT. I feel this video should be watched before commenting in this thread.
I believe that was the stated reason, yes.
I'm sorry. I wasn't clear. I did mean the other Walgreens stores.
Steal with a pen, not a gun.
Although, with how organized this is, I'd hazard a chain of thievin'.
I wasn't looking to answer that; I only gave the perspectives of people who live in SF wrt how much shoplifting is a thing vs common refrains from those who don't live there.
good. glad folks are able to get those essentials for much cheaper
Gotcha. I do think it is important to have perspectives from people who live there.
Is shoplifting forcing Walgreens to cut back in S.F.? Data on the closing stores puts the claim into perspective
The timing of Walgreens’ decision to close five stores in San Francisco led observers...
www.sfchronicle.com
Boy these numbers sure don't add up to the shoplifting narrative as to why these stores are closing.
shoplifting is pretty much a rounding error for those companies, when they complain but don't talk hard numbers you know they are full of shit. like if they had the hard numbers to back the insinuation that shoplifting made those stores not economically viable you can bet your ass they would be out there with graphs and receipts.Is shoplifting forcing Walgreens to cut back in S.F.? Data on the closing stores puts the claim into perspective
The timing of Walgreens’ decision to close five stores in San Francisco led observers...
Boy these numbers sure don't add up to the shoplifting narrative as to why these stores are closing.
Sorry for repeating myself from the last page but I don't know how else to say it -
Open the books and show us how much you actually lose on shoplifting or shut the fuck up.
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Millions of stuff is being stolen and resold, it's a thing and gangs hire homeless people to do it because they have nothing to lose.
There's a reason why Home Depot/target hire their own security, stuff gets stolen and there's no profit, if nobody cared then they wouldn't need security but they do.
lol woops. as usual, a lot of this forum continues to have absolute dogshit opinions on SFIs shoplifting forcing Walgreens to cut back in S.F.? Data on the closing stores puts the claim into perspective
The timing of Walgreens’ decision to close five stores in San Francisco led observers...
Boy these numbers sure don't add up to the shoplifting narrative as to why these stores are closing.
This is what happens when media uncritically regurgitates bullshit straight from corporate, and law enforcement PR departments. Petty theft definitely happens, and is brazen in some instances, but it isn't running these multi-billion dollar corporations out.
We had a thread about it a few months ago:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ta...response-to-theft-and-safety-concerns.454234/
Also, Citations Needed had a podcast specifically about this nonsense:
https://citationsneeded.medium.com/...c-panic-hits-san-francisco-media-b044c0f78bfa
We had a thread about it a few months ago:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ta...response-to-theft-and-safety-concerns.454234/
Also, Citations Needed had a podcast specifically about this nonsense:
https://citationsneeded.medium.com/...c-panic-hits-san-francisco-media-b044c0f78bfa
This is conflicting. Listening to this dude explain how he bought basic life essentials that normally cost $40 total for $17 and...well, it paints a different picture than what they were aiming to paint.
The same thing that has Amazon laying off 18,000, Salesforce laying off 10 percent of their workforce etc etc. Its the economy. But this is a very very easy scapegoat.
This shoplifting issue is definitely a problem, Im not saying that it isn't. Just that the idea that a whole chunk of stores are closing solely because of it is likely bullshit. Zoom out a bit and google 'layoffs' and 'closures' and you will see this has been trending for many companies for a while now.
Exactly. Its really troubling seeing the kneejerk reactions to this stuff solely because people were fed that sensationalist bullshit by news media.
