NPD rankings tell you very little about performance. Just because a platform isn't recognized as the best-seller doesn't mean that the platform is not selling well.
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GameStop has revealed that Nintendo Switch sales doubled in the week following E3.
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That's because you still don't understand why people are picking up a Switch.
Ports are still games, exclusive games released last year are still exclusive and new to people without Switch. Having console-quality games on the go. Yada-yada etc etc. I'm sure this was explained to you plenty of times already.
Except the game isn't pokemon go plus.... At all.
The main feature shared is just throwing to catch without battling. The rest is typical pokemon rpg stuff.
You're either being dishonest or you're seriously grossly misinformed about what the game is.
Coincidentally the week after e3 was the time when piracy became straight forward on Switch (Xecuter CFW/dongle thingy). I don't know what effect it does have, people always said piracy helped sell PSPs (not software obviously though) but it could be responsible in part for the stronger sales.
What I glean from Benji's post is that the trajectory is upwards both in the week prior to E3 and the week after E3. In that context, furthermore, Switch did "very well." My conclusion is that Switch did very well.
People want Smash because it's the best MP game on the planet.
The only reason I got a Switch this early was due to the insane GameStop trade in deal. I basically trading in old games/new games to generate $500 in GS credit and put all of that towards a Switch Zelda bundle. If it weren't for this, I wouldn't have given a fuck about buying a Switch until I got the Smash Bros release date.
I don't care if if people here don't care about it and want more single player Nintendo games. This will be the fastest selling game, will be a system seller, will sell more accessories than most other games from GameCube controllers and amibos, and if Nintendo somehow delivers on the online play, it will be the most successful Nintendo game ever.
The only reason I got a Switch this early was due to the insane GameStop trade in deal. I basically trading in old games/new games to generate $500 in GS credit and put all of that towards a Switch Zelda bundle. If it weren't for this, I wouldn't have given a fuck about buying a Switch until I got the Smash Bros release date.
I don't care if if people here don't care about it and want more single player Nintendo games. This will be the fastest selling game, will be a system seller, will sell more accessories than most other games from GameCube controllers and amibos, and if Nintendo somehow delivers on the online play, it will be the most successful Nintendo game ever.
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I literally had this thought go through my head reading the thread title and I don't even work at retail.
GameStop isn't in the business of saying negative things about the consoles they sell.
I think you are all looking for more reasons than there need to be.
Gamestop provided an additional incentive to by a switch, therefore more switches were sold.
Game library, announcements, or other things may play a part in why the system was sold, but not why it was sold this particular week.
Gamestop provided an additional incentive to by a switch, therefore more switches were sold.
Game library, announcements, or other things may play a part in why the system was sold, but not why it was sold this particular week.
Yup, thank you.
I don't get why winning has any indication of whether or not they'll be selling a sizable number, meeting their expectations, or whether or not Gamestop is relevant for game sales anymore (someone actually tried to argue this earlier).
Numbers matter, "winning" does not.
If you are going to make a doom and gloom thread about the stock market.. ect.. ect.
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just because everything saw a bump dont detracts from the fact that Switch saw a bump.
only thing this proves wrong is the naysayers that E3 this year didnt manage to make an impact on people.
A PR beast most known as the director of the game and that worked on the game and works for the franchise for more than 20 years now. They are the ones who defines what it is mainline titles and it was defined like that.
Nah, guy who works for the NPD, winning the NPD is all that matters.
It varied by model (including Pro and X), $150-300 iirc.
This is the second big trade in deal GS did for Switch this year too, the first was back in March timed with the Smash reveal. That was $50 extra on any PS4 or XB1 model traded in towards a Switch.
Well, you guys are the experts. I will take you at your word and it sounds like you're calling it for PS4.
Maybe PS4 has enough left over momentum from Gow to take June. If so, I really see Nintendo in spitting distance the next few months and absolutely obliterating in November and beyond when they traditionally do most of their sales.
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You would think people would be hyped after seeing Smash shown for the switch so no duh people went out and got one.
That's what got my girlfriend a switch. Planned on upgrading to X so I traded in my S and got her a switch. So we are part of this number from gamestop.
Yeah I agree. The Switch is a healthy enough platform as it is, it doesn't really matter if its the best selling platform every month. It doesn't need to be to be a successful.
I have the same opinion on the Xbox honestly right now (in terms of the US market)
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Nintendo sales are traditionally heavily back loaded towards the late holiday season. Moreso than the other console manufacturers.
I definitely see all signs of PS4 blowing past their expectations this year. Maybe Nintendo will slightly under-perform. It could wind up a highly entertaining photo finish but in the end everyone wins.
I still don't really see any need for alarm regarding Nintendo hitting their forecast. They've already made it clear that they have more to announce and there are still 9 months left in the FY.
For all we know a price cut might be baked into their forecast too.
No alarm at all.
I think Nintendo will hit their forecast, and taking it in context, PS4's very best year was 20m. Switch is an absolute monster.
I'm absolutely expecting PS4 to do well over the projected 16 million this year though. It might be there best year yet depending on what kind of deals they offer.
Yep. The overall outlook for the year is strong for all 3 mainline platforms. Shrug.
Is it? How would they reach their forecast if they don't start taking over a console which is supposed to sell 16 million this year?
Because the PS4 has been continually outperforming its forecast and will likely continue to do so for the whole year. If (hypothetically of course) the PS4 goes on to sell 21M and the Switch sells 20M that doesn't mean that it wasn't a successful year for the Switch.
Also the US is only one region, albeit the biggest region for the console manufacturers.
Look at Switch sales last year, or Wii in it's prime. Look at the games coming in November and December.
They usually sell more towards the holiday than the rest of the year combined.
Also PS4 is clearly going to sell more than 16 million this year.
I really find it hard to believe that Sony got their forecast low by like 4 million.
The post I replied to said it's meaningless if they take first or not, not when they will sell the most.
You never know. The PS4's performance is surprising everyone seemingly. Fortnite and GOW being fantastic really carried it way more than most were expecting, possibly even Sony.
I have no idea where it will wind up for the year, but the point here is that who gets "first" in NPD is literally meaningless without the context or numbers. Obviously this will never happen but if the Switch sells like 700k this June and still comes in second to the PS4 selling 720k that's still an absurdly successful result for the Switch.
Winning NPD is meaningless.
Monster Hunter as well. Early 2018 was much stronger than Sony likely anticipated. With RDR and Spiderman on the backend and some good deals this could very well be PS4's biggest year ever. Of course, their performance in countries like japan might hold them back some over the remainder of the year.
It proves that console sales increase after E3, across the board. Nintendo's E3 isn't any better as a result of this Gamestop quote.
oh it is actually
it was not only something hardware related
There was widespread disappointment with Nintendo's E3 this year. I'm sure this isn't the first you've heard of this.
Some people seem to be spinning this post E3 sales bump as proof that Nintendo's E3 really wasn't bad. This entire discussion originated from a Gamestop executive saying the Switch got a sales bump after E3. Other retail employees have shown up in this thread to say all the consoles got a sales bump after E3, because that's just what happens with all the media coverage at that time of year.
I absolutely love how the guy with all the real evidence that any console warrior can use is completely against console wars. Thank you for your perspective.
When any gamers win we all win.
Eh, meaningless without numbers is different than outright saying it's meaningless.
Nintendo's E3 wasn't even bad. It was just overwhelmingly mediocre
Most consumers don't even know what E3 is.
They just see Fortnite, Paladins, a Pokemon game on the Switch and maybe some Smash trailers on their news feed and they buy buy buy.
In the context of 2018 games and games that came out right around the E3 period, Switch was clearly a winner.
I wouldn't call it mediocre. It's was good. Not bad. Not great. Good.
Then again. It's comes down to what you personally think.
It was bad considering the expectations a lot of us had for their E3. The first half of the year was very quiet for them (unless you were dying for Wii U ports) and a lot of people expected this E3 to really be a big moment to find out what their internal teams have been working on. Not a single internal team project was revealed. They also chose to spend 25 minutes talking about Smash Bros. Most of the press outlets I checked out did not have positive things to say about that. Even Nintendo centric youtube channels were critical.
Most consumers don't even know what E3 is, but they do know what Paladins is? okay
Then it was only bad because of inflated expectations on your behalf rather than on an objective view of everything.