It is the go to for people who want to pretend to give a shit while doing absolutely nothing to address the issues at hand. "Be more civil while I do nothing." Or worse.
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16 year old MAGA bro gets soda thrown at him at Whataburger
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It is the go to for people who want to pretend to give a shit while doing absolutely nothing to address the issues at hand. "Be more civil while I do nothing." Or worse.
Regardless of what you think about it it's assault. No judge is going to "scoff" at an adult doing this to a minor. If the kid decides to press charges the man is likely to end up with record, which can impact is future job prospects. I dunno why people are applauding this like it's some amazing thing, the guy lost his job and will probably end up in court over a fucking hat.
If you're going to insult me for not seeing a 3 year old red hat as analogous to the symbol used for the worst genocide in history, then I don't know what to tell you. In no way am I condoning MAGA bros here for being the dipshits they largely are, but we need some perspective in these kinds of conversations. I'd sooner call the confederate flag a comparison rather than some stupid hat my brother-in-law has.
I never said don't fight back, just that I don't like the MAGA hat to swastika comparison. Just don't assault and dox a 16 year old for being a dipshit in a fast food place and I'll support the fight. You can't rely on the fighting words doctrine for stuff like this.
Anyway, I'm bowing out. Already got a (perfectly valid) warning for something I sadly think many people would unironically agree with.
They made their opinion public so that they could affect public opinion. They want us to take this as seriously as possible.
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Have you not been paying attention? There was audio of the president bragging about sexual assault before the election and you're talking about public perception. At some point, you have to start being honest with yourself and the world
How could anyone ever mistake the two.
Holy shit the US is fucked
I was being sarcastic to mock the people getting bent overshape about using violence against people whose root ideology is violence.
He's posted that same MLK quote two or three times in other threads already.... he's on a roll leave him be (lol). Fighting fire with fire, I read somewhere that 4chan have tried to dox the guy who threw the soda in his face. Sooner or later someone is going to get hurt by this escalation.
Except here's the thing, the hat has taken on a new meaning of hate. People just remember a well known symbol like the Swastika and naturally will compare them.
Doesn't change the fact that right now in this generation MAGA is 100% a sign of hate, bigotry and racism.
I don't give a fuck about the Holocaust comparison because MAGA is unambiguously a hate symbol that your family wears so clearly the threat isn't towards you
It's a hate symbol, just like the swastika is. Period
Nah it's ok. Those are just the Republicans that haven't figure out that they're supposed to be coy about their hate for minorities by fucking them over through politics.
What the fuck is up with the Whataboutism responses? Trump being a scumbag doesn't make this dude look any less shit in my eyes for throwing a tirade against a kid.
Its all good I totally understand. I was hoping I was being so over the top I wouldn't have to use the /S lol
You're tsk tsking about public perception is laughable in defending people who don't care about that shit at all. It only one side is concerned about being perceived as civil, that side will lose
Just a kid wearing a hat pining for the great America eras of segregation and overt white supremacy, gotta watch out how the public perceives our reactions to them
We have virtually no limit on "speech" in this country, what you see above is considered speech. We cannot stand by using our voices and reasoning with nazi's and those who would seek to leave them in power. You only fight speech with speech when you are on a level playing field and both parties agree the problem can be solved by speech and are willing to *listen*, this is not the case today. You do not reason with nazi's, you stomp them out before the fire gets too large. You don't reason with racists or else our racism problem would be a hell of a lot smaller if that worked. You agitate, you disrupt, you don't allow yourself to be ignored or set aside. They certainly aren't gonna come to the table in good faith waiting to have a civil conversation.
I bet you can get that trending LZ
#catchacola
To be honest, I watched the video and read the original story without hearing the part where the racist little shit (allegedly) went on a loud white nationalists and frankly Nazi tear. Not sure I'd have been restrained enough for harsh language.
"When they go low, we go high" gave us Trump.
Not throwing liquids on racists.
So:
Fuck
Your
Optics
What, something like this?
Or this?
Or this?
Perhaps this one?
Or any of these?
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His ideology is not irrelevant to my beliefs with respect to racism, only to the higher principle that no one has the right to get physical with someone just because they don't like and disagree with what they're saying. In principle I'll never agree with crossing the line from speech into physical confrontation, no matter what it is. The principle supersedes, and as such, what it does is relegated irrelevant.
That doesn't mean it's irrelevant in general. I value the right of free speech, expression, and our ability to have it much higher than I do anything else. I vehemently oppose racism so please stop stating I don't, be it actively, passively, or by complacency. Nothing could be further from the truth. You guys keep trying to paint me with a disgusting brush simply because I an intolerant of violence against those who embrace abhorrent beliefs and speak them freely. I disagree with them doing so, I don't disagree with their right to do so nor do I encourage the use of violence to stop it.
Avatar is a torch.
This is not what I'm saying at all.
Then the one throwing the punch to the one spouting racist bullshit better be ready to go to jail.
Dearest anyone encouraging this nonsense: stop believing you have the right to fight words with violence. Since when does that equate to lying down and taking it? It's possible to use words in response.
Hate speech is not violence.
Yes, I'm happy as well. I stand for free speech against the fascists who wish to destroy it because they conflate and cannot distinguish between words and violent action. Violence is to be met with violence, and I'll be first to be on that line. Harsh words and disgusting ideologies are not.
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Yup. High and mighty comfortable types will never understand what it feels like because they haven't been a minority who has been called a slur or heard about the desire for their extermination. They literally do not understand why hate speech is violence and do not care to.
You cannot tell me to take the high road when someone just spit in the faces of my dead relatives and expressed that you want my child and the rest of my race to die. That is a damaging message and it is easily provable that it has been historically.
Why the fuck are people going on about optics or how this is perceived in the media? These two aren't running for fucking Congress. There's no election coming that this event will have any impact on whatsoever. So good optics/bad optics don't mean a fucking thing.
We get it, you sympathize with the racist white teenager. State it and move on but please don't shovel bullshit at us about optics or how this is perceived on a national stage. In a week, no one is going to give a fuck about this in the media because they would've moved on to the latest Trump outrage.
We get it, you sympathize with the racist white teenager. State it and move on but please don't shovel bullshit at us about optics or how this is perceived on a national stage. In a week, no one is going to give a fuck about this in the media because they would've moved on to the latest Trump outrage.
What, something like this?
Or this?
Or this?
Perhaps this one?
Or any of these?
Oh dude cant you remove this pic I wasnt prepared to see shit like that.
User Warned: Antagonistic drive-by
Endorsing the harassment of a child doesn't get you banned here? whoa. This is some next level shit :)
Sear it into your fucking eyeballs. This is reality. There's no hiding from it.
He's old enough to have a drink thrown at him.
He's young enough to hopefully realize how much a fucking idiot he is.
Hopefully this is a learning experience.
He's young enough to hopefully realize how much a fucking idiot he is.
Hopefully this is a learning experience.
It always amuses me how quickly these people get on the local news. Quick enough to dodge the racist backstory.
It's almost as if these fucking cowards know what they're doing is wrong, yet they still do it anyway. Pathetic.
Hate speech is violence. Why do you think some European countries have banned it? Why would you allow hate groups to assemble? Someone already died in Charlottesville.
I've been punched in the face and I've had hate speech used against me. I know which one is more damaging on a societal level.
You're talking down to me despite the fact that I think you have jack shit regarding experience in this department.
Are there any documentaries on this? I am pretty sure there are, but I dont know the names and would like to watch them
How could anyone ever mistake the two.
What did the poster say, originally?
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Never mind just saw it
12 Post, has had the account since October.
Yup nothing suspicious here!
The MAGA hat is worst than a nazi swastika.
Should have learned something in the last 60 years and wearing that hat tells everyone you support a racist, anti-semitic, misogynistic piece of shit traitor. It's 2018. Stop.
Should have learned something in the last 60 years and wearing that hat tells everyone you support a racist, anti-semitic, misogynistic piece of shit traitor. It's 2018. Stop.
Doubtful. Racism is learned and he's probably still living with the people who taught him.
Was it a Sinclair station? Wouldn't surprise me if they left out parts on purpose.
If you don't think the judge will use his discretion and weigh the motivating factors (ie witness account) and ultimately dismiss something as trivial as this then I don't know what to tell you. Moreover tax payers dollars would go to complete waste.
"wow its weird that advocating for violence against children doesnt get you banned :)))))))))))))"
Basically more horseshit.
Vice has some, few popped up after Charlottesville. At least I think it's some, and not just one vid about that nazi Christophwr Cantwell or whatever.
Attributing a garbage slogan to me when I never said it, nice tactic. If the guy were to walk up to the kid and talk shit fine. He threw a drink, just full caveman dipshit mode. He got fired and now a MAGA hat shitty kid gets to define the encounter for everyone on the outside looking in. And you applaud it. Amazing strategy I can see why the left has been so successful as of late.
People have already been killed. By MAGA hat wearing white supremacists. Did you forget?
They have been successful as of late. Glad you're paying attention.
Oh like he wouldn't be seen by people like you to be verbally assaulting/harassing the teenager? Get real man. We're not buying your bullshit.
And you just outed yourself.
They're lucky that's all they got. Racists like this deserve every single thing that happens to them. Womp womp.
Of course you don't agree: You aren't black, and therefore, aren't a direct target for white supremacist's violent ideologies.
Your apathy would be sad if it wasn't already expected.
No, there is. So that we never forget. These are the stakes. Hiding from it does no one any favors.
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