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saenima

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Oct 25, 2017
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the most insane thing about people who say "just talk to the racists" is that they don't take their own advice. None of their posts internalize what those who are upset by racist statements say. They literally don't hear them. They don't talk to these people they "disagree with," they scold them. Talk down to them. Never converse.

Middle ground moral masturbation. Never have a stake on anything not directly related to their own well being.
 

Deleted member 12790

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's not clear what happened before what is on the video though. According to the teens it was completely unprovoked. There was one place reporting the teens were making racist remarks from an anonymous source but they have since retracted that part from their story because they question it's legitimacy and are unable to verify it.

wearing a MAGA hat in san antonio is provocative as hell.

Forgive me for not believing a pair of literal MAGA wearing doofuses when they say they weren't being publicly racist.
 

Deleted member 8112

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the most insane thing about people who say "just talk to the racists" is that they don't take their own advice. None of their posts internalize what those who are upset by racist statements say. They literally don't hear them. They don't talk to these people they "disagree with," they scold them. Talk down to them. Never converse.

I have incredibly racist "friends", and I've tried talking to them about this stuff. One of them is 100% a Nazi cuz yesterday he posted a pic of an iron cross with 1939 on it on the Facebook group. Guess what trying to talk to them got me back last year? A week of bullying, me considering suicide and then being ignored for over half a year cuz I'm a "toxic liberal". Talking doesn't fucking work.
 

Buzzman

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
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Oct 25, 2017
1,549
Nazis are regularly killing minorities and protesters, but somehow anyone not on the far-right needs to fucking tiptoe around and not hurt any pwecious trump-voters feelings, because then it would be YOUR FAULT!
This is literal domestic violence-level of argument. It's never the fault of the abuser, clearly it's your actions that caused them to vote for a fascist.
 

Nanashrew

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,328
I read the article, no where is it stated the kid was advocating genocide.

And no, wearing a MAGA hat does not mean you want to kill anyone.

Srs, some of you need to get a grip on reality.
MAGA is just another in a long line of America First rhetoric that is isolationist, xenophobic, racist, and belligerent.
 

furikuri

Member
Oct 28, 2017
156
It just strikes me as odd that you and others here embrace and enjoy freedoms until they fail to serve your own interests. Then you suddenly want them curtailed.
Yes, it's so odd that people would consider racist rhetoric to be against their own interests.

also, fuckin' lol at "cant handle the FREEDOM? go somewhere else, breh!!" what a truly enlightened mind we have here, guess i'll pack my bags
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,405
You don't get to call an appeal to genocide a "political view". Its not a magic spell you can cast on any heinous thing someone says to shield them from consequences. EVERYTHING IS POLITICAL. The content of what you have to say is what you will be judged on, and it doesn't mean shit what genre you want to assign to it.

If you were to joke loudly about killing someone's family within their earshot, no one on this planet would expect to get a civil response from them. To whichever dumb fuckbois need it spelled out to you, dude is Latino. They were literally talking about killing his family in front of him. Dude is fucking Ghandi for doing as little as he did to them.

We live in world where talking about exterminating other races in public might be a physically dangerous thing to do *gasp*. If that's so unfair and harsh and bothers you, then cry me a fucking river and then go fuck yourself. If you think actions like this put both sides on a more equal footing to any degree, you aren't capable of being a useful ally. You're just one of the silent majority who sit on a fence and make the world become so awful, through your own self-interested ignorance and inaction.

I almost hate these sort of moderates more than the MAGA hillbillies. Trash like this Trumpet can be seen, met, and defeated. At the very least, they can be made to understand that they don't belong in normal society. A young person who might be receptive to their ideas should get to see what a loser in life they are because of it, should get to see that they lost everything just for revealing what they are, and maybe be deterred from choosing the same fate. A fascist should never be comfortable and never feel safe, in any part of their life. But while you're trying to accomplish any of this, a mass of dead weight (moderates) will just lay on top of you and immobilize/suffocate you while a minority of fascists take over.
 

ChristopherDX

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May 8, 2018
761
I have incredibly racist "friends", and I've tried talking to them about this stuff. One of them is 100% a Nazi cuz yesterday he posted a pic of an iron cross with 1939 on it on the Facebook group. Guess what trying to talk to them got me back last year? A week of bullying, me considering suicide and then being ignored for over half a year cuz I'm a "toxic liberal". Talking doesn't fucking work.

That's so disgusting. I wouldn't want anything to do with that dude posting that Nazi shit either.

Don't ever consider suicide, I know you probably don't care but you can always PM me if you wanna talk about anything...never suicide please.
 

Skelepuzzle

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Apr 17, 2018
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It means that this land is owned by 567 Native American tribes that were genocided, then their children were sent to schools where their culture was beat out of them so that they would forget. Theft of property is a crime? Stand back and give it back motherfucker, we are several nations and are happy to take it back.
 

Deleted member 8112

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That's so disgusting. I wouldn't want anything to do with that dude posting that Nazi shit either.

Don't ever consider suicide, I know you probably don't care but you can always PM me if you wanna talk about anything...never suicide please.
Thank you, I really appreciate it. I guess what I'm trying to say is that in 2016 these people were posting Trump and edgy memes, and I paid them no mind when I should've.
 

Skelepuzzle

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Apr 17, 2018
6,119
I have incredibly racist "friends", and I've tried talking to them about this stuff. One of them is 100% a Nazi cuz yesterday he posted a pic of an iron cross with 1939 on it on the Facebook group. Guess what trying to talk to them got me back last year? A week of bullying, me considering suicide and then being ignored for over half a year cuz I'm a "toxic liberal". Talking doesn't fucking work.

It's horrific that they did that to you and I hope you're in a better place. You always have people, myself included, if you need someone to talk to.
 

Kyra

The Eggplant Queen
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Oct 25, 2017
12,262
New York City
I have incredibly racist "friends", and I've tried talking to them about this stuff. One of them is 100% a Nazi cuz yesterday he posted a pic of an iron cross with 1939 on it on the Facebook group. Guess what trying to talk to them got me back last year? A week of bullying, me considering suicide and then being ignored for over half a year cuz I'm a "toxic liberal". Talking doesn't fucking work.

You can do better than those people.

But at least you didnt sink to the all time low of throwing carbonated water at them.
 

Mister X

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Dec 5, 2017
2,081
A witness stated that the kids "joking" about killing black people.

http://bit.ly/2NxhPEK

Ah yes quite convenient:

"The witness, who has asked to remain anonymous"

Anyway I'm reading things saying it was provoked a lot saying it wasn't.

The only thing we know for sure was that an ADULT male threw soda on a teenager.

Point is, violence won't change anything it will only make things worse. You want to really change anything for the better? Dialogue is your only option. Change is made in the voting boot. If you don't like democracy then only one thing remains revolution AKA bloodshed.
 

ChristopherDX

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May 8, 2018
761
It means that this land is owned by 567 Native American tribes that were genocided, then their children were sent to schools where their culture was beat out of them so that they would forget. Theft of property is a crime? Stand back and give it back motherfucker, we are several nations and are happy to take it back.

Well I'm out of this conversation.

I just want to say I never ever condone violence ever left right liberal conservative.
 

Mister X

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Dec 5, 2017
2,081
you need to get a grip on reality. "it was big online," shit didn't even trend on Houston twitter yesterday, and we're an afternoon drive away from San Antonio.
You underestimate the internet, I'm not even in America and knew about this incident.

Anything politics related is big these days.
 

Aldi

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Oct 27, 2017
4,634
United Kingdom
I have incredibly racist "friends", and I've tried talking to them about this stuff. One of them is 100% a Nazi cuz yesterday he posted a pic of an iron cross with 1939 on it on the Facebook group. Guess what trying to talk to them got me back last year? A week of bullying, me considering suicide and then being ignored for over half a year cuz I'm a "toxic liberal". Talking doesn't fucking work.

Those aren't friends of any kind. You need to ghost them. I don't know why you took issue with them ignoring you, but I'd be glad if people like that ignored me.
 

Mister X

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Dec 5, 2017
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You are transparent as hell.

Dialog is our only option? Buddy, you can't even sway a page full of posters on a forum about video games, the futility of dialog is being demonstrated to you but there you go, just keep on trucking.
Ok I'm sorry I wasted my time, if you think violence is a viable option you are an extremist, simple as that.
 

Deleted member 8112

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Oct 26, 2017
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Those aren't friends of any kind. You need to ghost them. I don't know why you took issue with them ignoring you, but I'd be glad if people like that ignored me.
I tried ghosting them but it's pretty hard, especially when you've known one for about 8 years and he happened to go to the same English contest as me so we were bound to meet back in April. But I'm thinking you're right and I should do it for good, I'm turning 18 in two months and I think that's the perfect time to make new friends and stop dealing with all this bullshit.
 

DigitalOp

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Nov 16, 2017
9,292
Ah yes quite convenient:

"The witness, who has asked to remain anonymous"

Anyway I'm reading things saying it was provoked a lot saying it wasn't.

The only thing we know for sure was that an ADULT male threw soda on a teenager.

Point is, violence won't change anything it will only make things worse. You want to really change anything for the better? Dialogue is your only option. Change is made in the voting boot. If you don't like democracy then only one thing remains revolution AKA bloodshed.

Shut the fuck up.

Slavery didn't end with a discussion.

Civil Rights wasn't granted through discussion.

Nazis weren't defeated through discussion.

Dred Scott took his case to sue for freedom to the Supreme Court and lost. Abolisionists nationwide realized that fighting through the system wasn't going to get them the results they needed.

So you have no knowledge of actual history or you don't give a shit.

Shut the fuck up.

How's that for some dialogue.
 

-Peabody-

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Oct 29, 2017
1,599
Ah yes quite convenient:

"The witness, who has asked to remain anonymous"

Anyway I'm reading things saying it was provoked a lot saying it wasn't.

The only thing we know for sure was that an ADULT male threw soda on a teenager.

Point is, violence won't change anything it will only make things worse. You want to really change anything for the better? Dialogue is your only option. Change is made in the voting boot. If you don't like democracy then only one thing remains revolution AKA bloodshed.

God this is such a bad take. Like, laughably bad.
 

Kyra

The Eggplant Queen
Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,262
New York City
Ah yes quite convenient:

"The witness, who has asked to remain anonymous"

Anyway I'm reading things saying it was provoked a lot saying it wasn't.

The only thing we know for sure was that an ADULT male threw soda on a teenager.

Point is, violence won't change anything it will only make things worse. You want to really change anything for the better? Dialogue is your only option. Change is made in the voting boot. If you don't like democracy then only one thing remains revolution AKA bloodshed.

The real solution is to vote in November and then work toward marginalizing these groups. A MAGA hat should be treated the same as Klan hood or a swastika. There is a simple reason they should be treated the same way. And that reason is the fact that they are the fucking same.
 

Muad'dib

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Jun 7, 2018
1,253
Ok I'm sorry I wasted my time, if you think violence is a viable option you are an extremist, simple as that.

People gave extremists an inch before, we saw the end result. You're pretty naive if you think violence against intolerant extremists isn't necessary from time to time.

Hitler coming to power was the result of the complacency you advocate, Alquaeda and ISIS rising have their roots with complacency towards hardliners taking more and more hold over the minds of young generations, same with the current wave of rising white supremacist.
 

Deleted member 4274

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Oct 25, 2017
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Shut the fuck up.

Slavery didn't end with a discussion.

Civil Rights wasn't granted through discussion.

Nazis weren't defeated through discussion.

Dred Scott took his case to sue for freedom to the Supreme Court and lost. Abolisionists nationwide realized that fighting through the system wasn't going to get them the results they needed.

So you have no knowledge of actually history or you don't give a shit.

Shut the fuck up.

How's that for some dialogue.

Sorry to use this again but:

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Red Arremer

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Oct 26, 2017
12,259
Murdering a woman with a vehicle: It's fine, there's good people on both sides.
Throwing a plastic cup at a kid "joking" about genociding entire races: Extremism.
 

Deleted member 12790

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Oct 27, 2017
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Murdering a woman with a vehicle: It's fine, there's good people on both sides.
Throwing a plastic cup at a kid "joking" about genociding entire races: Extremism.

But isn't it CONVENIENT that the person who said the kids were acting racist chose to remain anonymous?

Also, those two MAGA wearing kids said they were attacked completely unprovoked. Would you really think someone would be racist publicly then lie about it after being confronted?? That would be too convenient.
 

Nanashrew

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Oct 25, 2017
6,328
Technically it's assault.

But technically wearing a MAGA hat advertises you as aligning with an unfeeling hate-filled racist husk of a shitstain, so you know.
I dunno, even that feels like a stretch to me. It's carbonated water. At most it's probably a mild to moderate annoyance cause now you're sticky and you gotta drive home and shower, lol.
 
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