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AP: North Korea says talks with Pompeo 'regrettable,' accuses US of unilateral denuke demands
- Thread starter chadskin
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Under any other administration, sure it'd be bad. Trump's America, though... Their incompetence and arrogance would definitely fuck this up.
Yeah they probably went in there like the meeting was just a I that had to be dotted, and touchdown dancing
Not at all.
I would trust rumors out of Iran, Russia and North Korea at this point before I trusted any official statement by this administration.
I'm not even kidding.
"Unilateral demands" reads to me there was no deal to be made in the first place, unless you want us to give up our nuclear arsenal in order for NK to give up theirs.
They say the talks went south because the US called for verifiable denuclearization, which they said now wavers their intentions to denuclerize.
Sounds like their intention was to "denuclerize" without verification, which means nothing, to the surprise of no one.
Sounds like their intention was to "denuclerize" without verification, which means nothing, to the surprise of no one.
I mean he had to know this was a possibility coming in. NK has done this about a thousand times up to this point. Hope springs eternal and all, but expect nothing other than a knife in the back when it comes to negotiating with NK. They've done it to every president whom has ever sat down with them, and it should shock no one if they do it again now.
If they don't denuke, the crippling sanctions will continue and eventually get worse. NK is already on the verge of of collapse, which would put a quick end to Kim's reign. At the very least, NK needs to keep the peace-train rolling. The photo-op alone won't protect him.
Does anyone speak Korean here? What is the translation of "regrettable"? I always see it in public statements made by the ROK about inter-Korean confrontations or deteriorations in relationship.
I'll take "things that armchair analysts have constantly said for the last 30 years yet are always wrong" for 500, Alex.
I'll take "things that armchair analysts have constantly said for the last 30 years yet are always wrong" for 500, Alex.
Why? This is classic NK. It likely has nothing to do with Trump's admin. It was after one of SK's meetings that NK deemed them (SK) incompetent and cancelled future meetings. This is what they do.
NK likely wants a withdrawal of US troops from SK, and the removal the nuclear umbrella in the region - which ain't going to happen.
Well, this is why everyone with a grasp of the issues and a memory longer than a goldfish said skipping the initial meetings to establish the boundaries and understandings of an actual agreement so that two nuclear-armed, morbidly obese man-children could have a mutual propaganda circle-jerk -- was a bad idea.
Having nuclear capability is what keeps his regime in power. They will never willingly give this up. No nuclear state that is at odds with the US would.
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China has already eased sanctions enforcement and there have been no signs North Korea is on the verge of an economic collapse because of the 'maximum pressure' campaign: http://www.nkeconwatch.com
Oh, no doubt. But if NK wants the sanctions removed (or lessened by a country that isn't China), they need to work out something. Pulling their usual crap, which is being pulled here, doesn't help their cause.
THANK YOU. The sanctions have stymied its international reach, but that was pretty much limited to reflagging its ships and basically slave labour exported to Russia, Qatar, Kuwait, China, Poland, Mongolia, and former 'commie' countries in Africa.
i dont get why anyone thought a highly vulnerable nation like NK would just give up its most important form of deterrence just because a goofy looking American "leader" asked them to.
the whole idea was absurd fron the get go.
now we all have to wait in fear how Trump reacts to this "betrayal". will he listen to Bolton and start a war to repair his damaged ego? i guess we'll see. fun times ahead.
the whole idea was absurd fron the get go.
now we all have to wait in fear how Trump reacts to this "betrayal". will he listen to Bolton and start a war to repair his damaged ego? i guess we'll see. fun times ahead.
Seriously? No shit, that is what we wanted from the start, we got played so hard.
Thanks, best deslmaker.
Thanks, best deslmaker.
100% this. I get it's fun to shit on Trump and blame him for everything, but this is what NK has done for decades. It's what they always do. They've done it to the past presidents, and to Moon. This isn't something special to Trump. And it's not a "poor Moon" situation.
Guess the Elton John cd didn't work.
health care dealing with a rogue nuclear state could be so complicated.
This is an unbelievably complex subject. Nobody knew
which us president has sat down with a north korean leader until trump?
What is special to Trump is the incredible idiocy, naivety and lack of preparation and care he brought to the table.
NK wants to become China while the US has wanted it to become it's bitch like SK for decades and also now.
Is it
This is the first administration to meet with North Korea in this way for a reason
That doesn't change anything in terms of this being classic NK. The US has had meetings and "deals" with NK numerous times, and it always ends the same way. And again, NK publicly deemed SK incompetent after their meetings. This is what they do, every time.
This isn't to defend Trump or any potential lack of preparedness. But this right out of NK's playbook.
I mean the US was negotiating in bad faith from the start. Do you really blame them?
It's going to be real fun to go through and collect your posts on this topic once it's all over to see the progression of goalpost moving lmao
Doesn't really mean anything since the NK as it exists now has only been around for three generations and the entire time we have practically been at war with them. Currently there us only a ceasefire.
Now, will Trump just ignore this and pretend everything will work out due to his amazing deal making, or will he feel another betrayal like with those meanies in NAFTA, EU, NATO...?
If the latter, will he actually escalate with military action?
If the latter, will he actually escalate with military action?