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Alucrid

Chicken Photographer
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Oct 25, 2017
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That doesn't change anything in terms of this being classic NK. The US has had meetings and "deals" with NK numerous times, and it always ends the same way. And again, NK publicly deemed SK incompetent after their meetings. This is what they do, every time.

This isn't to defend Trump or any potential lack of preparedness. But this right out of NK's playbook.

ok but what other administration grandstanded those "meetings" and "deals" like this one did and why do you think no other president had accepted invitations to sit down with the leader of north korea? north korea using this as a propaganda piece isn't unique, but a us president using it as one is.
 

DrewFu

Attempted to circumvent ban with an alt-account
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Apr 19, 2018
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ok but what other administration grandstanded those "meetings" and "deals" like this one did and why do you think no other president had accepted invitations to sit down with the leader of north korea? north korea using this as a propaganda piece isn't unique, but a us president using it as one is.
Oh no doubt the grandstanding by this admin was idiotic and plays right into NK's favor.
 

Replicant

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Oct 25, 2017
9,380
MN
Hilarious that Pompeo is back there again negotiating. Trump couldn't get the job done. Like usual. I doubt he did any negotiating when they met anyway. All he did was kiss Kim's ass trying to pretend they can be friends. That's what Trump does.
 

Saya

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hilarious that Pompeo is back there again negotiating. Trump couldn't get the job done. Like usual. I doubt he did any negotiating when they met anyway. All he did was kiss Kim's ass trying to pretend they can be friends. That's what Trump does.

Now now, Trump did negotiate... he offered to help build Kim some beautiful Trump condos on NK beaches.

 

Deleted member 176

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Oct 25, 2017
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When Trump was doing all the grand standing and Korea was playing along, it wasn't classic North Korea despite it being classic North Korea and even a toddler could see they were acting in bad faith. Instead, it was President Deals making America great again. #NobelPrize

Now that things are continuing to go on the very predictable route, so predictable that no president with a brain ever attempted it in the first place, it's "classic North Korea" and its somehow entirely Moon's fault. President Deals is new at this, guys.

Also the President saluted a North Korean general on tape, but that's Moon's fault too. He should have known better than to get President Deals involved.
 

VariantX

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Oct 25, 2017
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Its almost as if there was a reason people and past presidents didn't deal with NK the way the Trump administration did. Almost as if there was some sort of history or precedent...or some context. Hmm...could just be my imagination though.
 

DrewFu

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Apr 19, 2018
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right so it's perfectly ok to shit on trump for this considering its unique situation granted by the amount of legitimacy the administration gave north korea.
Oh, it's totally fine to shit on Trump. Folks just shouldn't make it out like the way NK is acting during this is unique.
 

Deleted member 176

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh, it's totally fine to shit on Trump. Folks just shouldn't make it out like the way NK is acting during this is unique.
It's never been unique. That's why everyone in this administration and everyone who ever said the words "Nobel Peace Prize" in relation to this situation are complete idiots.

Again, Trump is only able to make things worse. He takes non situations and turns them into embarassments. This is the only consistent aspect of his administration.
 

Aaronrules380

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
22,577
North Korea was never going to negotiate this in good faith, and honestly the only country with any chance at forcing a denuclearization agreement from them is China, who frankly don't want to at this point
 

DrewFu

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Apr 19, 2018
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It's never been unique. That's why everyone in this administration and everyone who ever said the words "Nobel Peace Prize" in relation to this situation are complete idiots.

Again, Trump is only able to make things worse. He takes non situations and turns them into embarassments. This is the only consistent aspect of his administration.
We're in agreement there. lol
 

Skinny Pete

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Nov 2, 2017
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Who knew sending an autographed Rocket Man cd wouldn't solve all the problems and create world peace?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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100% this. I get it's fun to shit on Trump and blame him for everything, but this is what NK has done for decades. It's what they always do. They've done it to the past presidents, and to Moon. This isn't something special to Trump. And it's not a "poor Moon" situation.

It IS special to Trump. HE went there. Sat down and talked and came out praising the man. Talking about a deal has been made. When ALL of us knew it was just a photo op to help legitimize NK. Now it's all coming out.

You're right NK has done this for years. But past admins have never declared any sort of victory because they know the deal.
 

Aselith

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Oct 27, 2017
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Why? This is classic NK. It likely has nothing to do with Trump's admin. It was after one of SK's meetings that NK deemed them (SK) incompetent and cancelled future meetings. This is what they do.

Well, for one, Trump showed he was ready to abandon SK's interests in a hot minute if Kim would give us the time of day. Joint military exercises? Fuck off, South, North is my friend now.

100% this. I get it's fun to shit on Trump and blame him for everything, but this is what NK has done for decades. It's what they always do. They've done it to the past presidents, and to Moon. This isn't something special to Trump. And it's not a "poor Moon" situation.

Trump fell for it like a starving guppy though. He wanted to believe he was good so badly that he made himself and the country look like giant fools for a negative gain. Fucking atrocious.
 

DrewFu

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It IS special to Trump. HE went there. Sat down and talked and came out praising the man. Talking about a deal has been made. When ALL of us knew it was just a photo op to help legitimize NK. Now it's all coming out.

You're right NK has done this for years. But past admins have never declared any sort of victory because they know the deal.
Fair enough.
 
Oct 25, 2017
10,326
Un got enough propaganda for his lifetime for free lol.


Seriously NK has always used their "denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula" language for a reason, and the Trump admin couldn't even see the basic difference of what their goals were before running to have a face to face. This was always doomed to fail.
 

RDreamer

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Oct 25, 2017
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Awww I really thought the Trump signed Rocket Man CD would smooth things over. Sad!
 
Oct 27, 2017
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lol

Who could have thought international nuclear disarmament agreements would be so complicated

This. These fucking assholes know exactly what's up. They are just trolling the shit out of everyone so Trump and his cronies might profit from something like a real estate deal. Also relinquish power in the region to Russia and China. Cynical fuckers.
 

Ac30

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Oct 30, 2017
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London
If they don't denuke, the crippling sanctions will continue and eventually get worse. NK is already on the verge of of collapse, which would put a quick end to Kim's reign. At the very least, NK needs to keep the peace-train rolling. The photo-op alone won't protect him.

China's already letting fuel back in.

China won't let them collapse. His regime is secure.
I mean the US was negotiating in bad faith from the start. Do you really blame them?

Lol for once this isn't on Trump. They always do this shit.

North Korea never negotiates in good faith
 

JaseC64

Enlightened
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Oct 25, 2017
11,008
Strong Island NY
Dems better push for full on Trump failure train even though nothing was coming come out of this. When they go low, you go low too. Fuck them.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Dems better push for full on Trump failure train even though nothing was coming come out of this. When they go low, you go low too. Fuck them.

The problem is by-and-large the American public doesn't give a shit about foreign policy unless we're blowing shit up. The cultists who unironically bought Trump's Rocket Man schtick got their photo-op. Everyone who knows he a moronic grifter still knows that.

The cynic in me believes he will try to use Chinese tariffs as leverage for them to apply tougher sanctions against NK. That won't work and who knows what these numbnuts will do
 

geomon

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Oct 25, 2017
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RolandGunner

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Oct 30, 2017
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China's already letting fuel back in.

China won't let them collapse. His regime is secure.

Between Trump proclaiming that NK has already agreed to denuclearize and the current trade war, there isn't any reason for China to restrain them. The next few years are going to be great for North Korean elites.
 

Fisty

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Oct 25, 2017
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I FUCKING KNEW IT

Trump could barely even muster up CVID when he was discussing his talks with NK, I fucking knew Trump never made that demand. Goddamn it
 

PrimeBeef

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Oct 27, 2017
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China's already letting fuel back in.

China won't let them collapse. His regime is secure.

Lol for once this isn't on Trump. They always do this shit.

North Korea never negotiates in good faith
Really. Not saying NK is ever the good guy, but prior to negotiations Trump was spouting reign of destruction the likes mankind has never seen before and how he didn't need to prepare, he'llknow if it's a good deal with in minutes. Also Pence and co. Talking about a Lybia solution if NK doesn't agree. This was all show not to be taken serious.
 

Armaros

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Oct 25, 2017
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China's already letting fuel back in.

China won't let them collapse. His regime is secure.

Lol for once this isn't on Trump. They always do this shit.

North Korea never negotiates in good faith

Maybe Trump antagonizing the Chinese with a pointless trade war might give them cause to not help us with NK and actually use them as a way to pressure us.

:thinking: