I definitely understand that a lot of sexism is hidden yes. That does not justify reading it into everything because if you do, you will find it wherever you want to, which is flawed.
...so why are we arguing.
That's how I view the situation too, but my whole issue was with the whole "he is mansplaining" thing. I get that mansplaining is a thing, and sometimes it is more subtle than other times, but my whole point this entire time is that I don't see that here at all.
Okay, so, first up, criticism of something is not, inherently, saying someone can't do something. Criticism and suggestions are fair game, and anyone is fair game. (I grew up in a situation where there were lots of arbitrary people you couldn't criticize and everything and I found that was very very often the source of lots of old bad, toxic practices -- including, funny enough, sexism -- so I'm kind of not a big believer in in the generally belief that seniority has some sort of inherent virtue or class). That doesn't mean I'm one of those "every criticism is valid types." Nah, a lot of criticism is stupid. But some of it's good. So I can't agree with an argument that disagreeing with someone who is a professional is just inherently bad. Especially when you start factoring something like sexism.
So what I look for is comments about someone's ability (the reason I do this is partially my own experience but more explicitly because of a number of really really insightful threads, by women, if that helps, talking about this, that were really eye opening).
The reason "ability" is generally addressed is because you can talk about the woman being incapable without tying that to her being a woman. That's not to say women can't be incapable. Like, I've run into many, many incapable men and women who think they're good at their job. But idk the criticism tends to revolve not around what the woman did poorly, but more that she is just incapable of doing well. Everyone does poorly, even good writers. But I truly believe any poor writer can become good. Implying someone is inherently bad or cannot be good start edging in the wrong direction.
So for example, if you'll excuse me, I feel that the writing for Destiny 2 is...really poor. I really don't feel that is because I hate the woman writer since, I love the writing in the Taken King in Destiny 1, and one of my favorite examples of that is...a woman writer. Instead, I tried to do my best to frame it as "hey the writing is poor, here is why I feel that way. It contradicts the tone the rest of the game seems to seek, and makes it hard to take the world seriously." I'm not like a professional writer, and I didn't address her directly, but I felt like I was doing my best to provide valuable feedback.
However, I saw a lot....a lot a lot. As in, so much, yeah, I know what you're talking about, a lot. Of gamers talking about how she was just bad and she sucked and they should go back to Joseph Staten even though, while he had hired the group . Like it wasn't logical. It was this out of the way attack on her ability to write. Some witch hunting into her past. A lot of
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way, overly harsh criticism. I see guys get vitriol, but man the vitriol I've seen some women get is ridiculous. It's very noticeable.
Those are my two main things I look for in terms of non explicit signals.
I want to make it clear that I think the community's backlash against Price is ridiculous and over done. It's that kind of harsh overreaction that I talked about. That much more indicative of sexism to me than what Deroir himself said.
The community backlash and firing are what bug me and sure seem sexist to me, not what Deroir did.
Because the it's the only explanation that explains the discrepancy.
