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Horizon Zero Dawn : The Frozen Wilds |OT|Red Head Redemption 2
- Thread starter Radec
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One of the quest fireclaws I had to fight also had a Ravager nearby. I tore off the Ravagers gun and used it on the fireclaw and it tore through him like butter. He died in about 5 seconds. I was only on Normal, but I bet it'd be enough to take one down fast even on the harder difficulties.
With Fireclaws, I don't even waste time with anything less than full-draw shots on the weak spots. Shoulders and tummy mostly. It also helps to use the emvironment where possible. If you can draw them to a wooded are where the trees are too closely spaced for them to enter, you can take potshots at them and have lots of cover to block their throw attacks. Just be careful when they stomp the ground, tou still have to dodge the resulting flames.
Fireclaw:
Ropecaster
Freeze bombs/arrows
3 fully notched hardpoint arrows (max damage mods) to chest and shoulders
Icerail/blast wires
Profit
Ropecaster
Freeze bombs/arrows
3 fully notched hardpoint arrows (max damage mods) to chest and shoulders
Icerail/blast wires
Profit
i'm thinking you're easily bored :) ...
If they ever make a tv series from this game, I hope the action scenes look as dynamic as this.
Agreed. Graphics Obsessives shined up this rather average, reasonably enjoyable Assasin's Creed clone into something it is not, revolutionary. It is however pleasingly evolutionary and so much more fun than Assasin's Creed (which is fine but AC got rote sometime between the AC2 expansions so being better than AC is no real feat). And not to sound mean and I really like Ashley Burch but her delivery/acting has been the same in nearly ever game she does (aside from Tina tina which let's be real was just her character from HAWP cranked out) and that took me out of it every time Aloy talked and I wish she'd, as an artist, stretch her reach a bit. Don't get me wrong I think she is amazingly talented but the video game VO world in general needs to expand their horizons behind the reliable but little boring/old time staples.
>Horizon
>Assassins Creed clone
I don't know how you could be more wrong with a single sentence.
Sorry, can't even justify that post with a response.
I
CAN'T
EVEN
If anything it's closer to Far Cry in terms of structure and what there is to do, just not first person. I agree that the game wasn't that amazing when I played it at launch, it was a pretty safe modern open world action game but it needed more things to do (that aren't meaningless like a lot of Ubi's icon bloat games) and some better quests. It's a solid game with an enjoyable main story though and maybe even good enough to make the back end of my goty list this year, I'm still sorting all that stuff out.
It is absurdly gorgeous though. Like holy shit I'm drooling all over it like I did when I first played it and it's been 9 months. I rarely get that type of reaction more than once with games.
It is absurdly gorgeous though. Like holy shit I'm drooling all over it like I did when I first played it and it's been 9 months. I rarely get that type of reaction more than once with games.
That's the fun thing about opinions about games/art Optimus: People are entitled to their own opinions. And yeah, TO ME, it is a nice looking Assasin's Creed Clone. I said I liked it what do you want from me?
And "can't even justify that post with a response" but you responded. Ah huh... but I'll do you a favor and not suggest to you Ruthless that a person with a HZD avatar might just be... I don't know... biased?
EDIT: Maybe UBISOFT Open world formula yadda yadda game would have been a better descriptor.
I don't see how one could form such an opinion when Horizon is literally nothing like Assassins Creed, like, in any way at all.
true, just like a person comparing HZD to AC might just be.....i don't know.....wrong?
I am sorry you possess an opinion that I (and a fair amount of other people) don't agree with but I support your right to such a ridiculous opinion. The game is BREATHTAKINGLY gorgeous an true PS4 graphical showpiece but as I said I BELIEVE that people cut it a lot of slack in the gameplay department because it looked so good. IMO ^ infinity.
There has to be a difference between Horizon and Ubisoft games, I mean Horizon is my game of the year while I only finished Assassin's Creed 1 and 2 and thought they were really boring, can't stand more than one or two hours of Far Cry and abandoned Watch Dogs after Act 2...
There has to be a difference, my take is the combat and enemy design, the probably unmatched spectacle and the satisfaying story and setting. That's not little.
There has to be a difference, my take is the combat and enemy design, the probably unmatched spectacle and the satisfaying story and setting. That's not little.
Many major publications, the CEO of Ubisoft, so many Reddit threads to count in the Horizon subreddit all observed the same well worn AC type familiarity. Many Horizon Dawn fanatics have said implicitly that it brought back the magic they felt when they were playing AC2. My opinion isn't wrong it is just different than yours. All I said is the game wasn't revolutionary, a remix. I enjoyed it. I am not going to let myself be digitally bullied by hype sippers. It's one of your GOTY. AWESOME! Keep enjoying it. I hear DLC just came out with more of the same Ubisoft Open world gameplay you seem to love with the fiery passion of a god. Have fun.
Crazy opinion above lol.
I have more fun running/jumping/turning/sliding/riding in slow-mo while lining up my shots to hit just the right body part in this game than I do any other game of this type. Crazy talk. And I'm someone who loves loves LOVES the type of combat AC3 even has.
edit: And I don't recall doing anything of that sort in any AC game so wtf gives?
I have more fun running/jumping/turning/sliding/riding in slow-mo while lining up my shots to hit just the right body part in this game than I do any other game of this type. Crazy talk. And I'm someone who loves loves LOVES the type of combat AC3 even has.
edit: And I don't recall doing anything of that sort in any AC game so wtf gives?
Or maybe people actually enjoyed the game in the gameplay department? What kinda tinfoil hat theory is that?
Also the hell is with that "i am sorry you have such an idiotic opinion" crap?
You sound like you really hate this game and the people who actually enjoy it
Whew that top gif. Sometimes I forget how good the destruction is in this game.
Yeah the drummer :)
Nah, it's too much like AC. A dev said so. Especially if he captured Aloy slo-mo sliding and lining up shots with no lock on targeting and proceeded to alter the machine's behavior depending on weapon type and part damage. Too much like AC.
"Bubut towers. And stealth kills."
How is it "much different"? Not being combative just curious. Just saying something is "much different" is both "lazy" and "simply wrong" IMO. You tell me how it is "much different" and I'll draw up a list of VERY clear similarities. I also edited my comment saying that a better descriptor would be UbiSoft Open World games.
Are you actually saying the combat is similar to ACs?
Just.........what?
Have you ever actually played either games?
I just listed exactly how different it is with my combat descriptions. And that's very different in case you haven't played. No AC plays like it... at all.
Optimus: Played both. Enjoyed both. Do you read people's post or do you just respond with blind zealotry before you respond? You acting like I'm from a planet for having different feelings than you about a silly fun game "Just.........what?" is patronizing/condescending it isn't a legitimate rebuke. I feel that you should grow up or work on your forum game.
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You keep talking about how similar the 2 games are, yet have posted exactly 0 similarities.
It's not "blind zealotry". It's actually understanding that the 2 games are clearly nothing alike.
Quit going around and calling people fanboys for disagreeing with you.
I hate to double post but I wasn't talking to you. Sarcasm is a bit hard to eck out my friend. I had to read your post twice to fully understand your grasp of nuance. Well done.
AC2 was a good open world game.
HZD is a good open world game.
That is where the similarities end.
Many have also called HZD combat similar to Souls combat. You don't see anyone saying the same about AC.
No one is bullying you, you're just making a wrong comparison by calling HZD an AC clone.
Here's an old video I had "share factoried" that I have just uploaded because of this discussion. Not sure how this can be compared to an Assassin's Creed game.
https://youtu.be/UFHClV5MJgI
Please watch. It's mostly to show the dynamic combat as a playground more than just some lock-on mash-a-thon like other games.
https://youtu.be/UFHClV5MJgI
Please watch. It's mostly to show the dynamic combat as a playground more than just some lock-on mash-a-thon like other games.
YOU GUYS keep saying it isn't the Same without offering legitimate reasons how its not. Even MoonsaultSlayer didn't even provide substantial differences. "Slo-mo sliding" and "no lock on targeting" are lynchpin, HUGE differences? Give me a break. There is more to the term GAMEPLAY by the very definition than just combat. Let me get really real and say the story was weak too in my estimation. It did nothing for me. GOTY? heck no. Not for me.
You haven't offered any legitimate reasons as to why it is similar, so.......
AC combat was literally "counter everybody to win", which is absolutely nothing like Horizon. Horizon doesn't even have a counter mechanic!
I am also curious if you can name a time in AC where you hunted for robot dinosaurs with a variety of different bow tools :thinking:
I played the game. To the end.
Gameplay as I've said more than once includes more than just combat.
EDIT: Okay Michael Bay. If throwing in robot dinosaurs makes a game instantly the game of the year then the gaming industry is doomed.
Gameplay is the specific way in which players interact with a game, and in particular with video games. Gameplay is the pattern defined through the game rules, connection between player and the game, challenges and overcoming them, plot and player's connection with it.
Wait, so quest markers and map opening is where your line of thinking comes from? Not the actual gameplay loop?
Because games have been doing that before AC...
edit: I'm moving on. Probably a troll account.
Because games have been doing that before AC...
edit: I'm moving on. Probably a troll account.
Yes, because combat in AC works like this
or anything else for that matter
Not going to waste more time justifying anything to someone who just feels like a troll at this point.
or anything else for that matter
Not going to waste more time justifying anything to someone who just feels like a troll at this point.
Rofl "Michael Bay"
I was literally comparing it to AC, but instead of coming out with the "many similarities" that you speak of, you go straight back to the fanboy excuse. Typical.
Also generally "gameplay" is defined by the combat..............
I'm still waiting on that list of similarities that you seem to have
Hah. Priceless. You got aggro and all on my case for saying I didn't like it and that it is similar to AC and now are insisting I substantiate my claim without first substantiating your disagreement and saying I was wrong and that you couldn't even understand what was going on in my initial "sentence" as you put it. Whatever. I made my point and you guys are just belaboring your dull points and posting videos of AN ASPECT of Horizon's gameplay that just, I'm sorry to say, didn't blow my mind. Have grand night.
We are posting differences between the 2 games, just like you asked, and yet you refuse to post any actual similarities.
Seriously, do you actually have any?
You posted negligible combat differences and AGAIN gameplay as defined in my previous post is much more all-encompassing than just combat. Like I said many times, but I keep letting myself get pulled back in, it's awesome you love it so much. I wish I loved it as much as you but I don't. I hope it wins all the GOTY so you feel validated about your opinion and your purchases but this convo is going in circles. Have a great night.
So.......you don't have any similarities between the 2 games?
The only thing that Horizon has in common with AC is that the open world structure is similar but at the same time, this applies to the majority of every open world game.
The gameplay in Horizon is what makes it crush all other open world games. It's so fluid, responsive. Above all else, FUN. The stealth is excellent. The melee combat is great. The bow and arrows are awesome. The traps, bombs, tripwires, ropecasters, etc. are all so well done and fun. Outside of smoke bombs, AC doesn't have any of that stuff and even in Origins, the combat while better than all previous AC games isn't even close to Horizon in terms of strategy and using the correct strengths against the machines weaknesses.
Everything in Horizon from top to bottom blows away every open world game that came before it with the lone exception of The Witcher III and only because that's a full fledged RPG. Even turning off all of the icons on the world map adds a level of exploration that quite honestly, craps all over Zelda. Seriously, it's not even close.
I have no problem with anyone not liking Horizon but to say that it's similar to AC makes me wonder, have you actually played Horizon or any AC game for that matter? Because I have and yeah, sorry but no. Not even close.
The gameplay in Horizon is what makes it crush all other open world games. It's so fluid, responsive. Above all else, FUN. The stealth is excellent. The melee combat is great. The bow and arrows are awesome. The traps, bombs, tripwires, ropecasters, etc. are all so well done and fun. Outside of smoke bombs, AC doesn't have any of that stuff and even in Origins, the combat while better than all previous AC games isn't even close to Horizon in terms of strategy and using the correct strengths against the machines weaknesses.
Everything in Horizon from top to bottom blows away every open world game that came before it with the lone exception of The Witcher III and only because that's a full fledged RPG. Even turning off all of the icons on the world map adds a level of exploration that quite honestly, craps all over Zelda. Seriously, it's not even close.
I have no problem with anyone not liking Horizon but to say that it's similar to AC makes me wonder, have you actually played Horizon or any AC game for that matter? Because I have and yeah, sorry but no. Not even close.
It's all bait and we fell for it, folks. Discontinue.
They're probably laughing about it on their alt-site as we speak.
They're probably laughing about it on their alt-site as we speak.
