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Apopheniac

Apopheniac

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,660
DAY 7 ENDS

Words fail. Buildings tumble. The ground opens wide. TearablePuns screams as the floor collapses beneath him. What mysterious force could have done this?
"The force of turbo!" TheWorthyEdge trumpets to no one in particular.

TearablePuns has died.
Who's that sucking all the oxygen
Out of the place
First name: Getting All Up in Your
Last name: Face


You are the Icky Guy, known from the song Icky. You're kinda obnoxious, I guess, and just to be on the safe side, I'm not gonna touch you or loan you any pairs of pants. Don't make this all about you. Other people wanna have fun with this game too, y'know.

You are a vanilla, aligned with the Town. You don't have any abilities, but who cares about those? You can still vote!

You win when all threats to the Town are dead.

Night 7 begins now and ends:
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(we're sticking to the same end time despite turbo so as not to screw up Hecht rhythm again)

Night actions are due two hours before day start.
 
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Apopheniac

Apopheniac

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,660
==== FINAL VOTE COUNT====
Day Start - Day End

tearablepuns (5 votes)
verelios - #2713
kitsunelaine - #2726
tearablepuns - #2736 #2784
godfather - #2738
theworthyedge - #2822
tearablepuns - #2825

absolutbro (1 votes)
tearablepuns - #2714 #2736
thechuggernaut - #2716

verelios (0 votes)
tearablepuns - #2784 #2825

Post Counts:
tearablepuns: 43 verelios: 24 theworthyedge: 18 godfather: 14 absolutbro: 12 thechuggernaut: 8 apollo: 6 kitsunelaine: 6 apopheniac: 4 captainnuevo: 1 retromg: 1
 

Verelios

Member
Oct 26, 2017
14,878
So, we have 8 people left. We can mislynch 2 more times before we're in crunch time. Let's try and do this thing!

8 left-6 left-4 left-2 left(lose)

Also, hey Monkey, wassup
 

Dr. Monkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,029
Hey y'all. I'm catching up. Read most of the game but not deeply, so I'm doing some analysis as I catch up. It's been interesting times.

No death, huh?
 

Verelios

Member
Oct 26, 2017
14,878
Hold up, forgot we're 7 because of the lynch...that means...I think it's the same but we're in mylo if we mislynch twice.
 

Dr. Monkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,029
Can anyone catch me up on claims I've missed? I know we have a claimed tracker and I see AbBro and kits have claimed vanilla. Anyone else? I see there was an argument over mass claims but I'm just not sure if I missed any. I do agree there's definitely an alignment cop and a tracker with the flips we've had. There almost certainly has to be.
 
Oct 25, 2017
23,218
Can anyone catch me up on claims I've missed? I know we have a claimed tracker and I see AbBro and kits have claimed vanilla. Anyone else? I see there was an argument over mass claims but I'm just not sure if I missed any. I do agree there's definitely an alignment cop and a tracker with the flips we've had. There almost certainly has to be.

Godfather is...something because he did the double lynch thing. Me, Worthy, and you haven't claimed
 

Verelios

Member
Oct 26, 2017
14,878
Can anyone catch me up on claims I've missed? I know we have a claimed tracker and I see AbBro and kits have claimed vanilla. Anyone else? I see there was an argument over mass claims but I'm just not sure if I missed any. I do agree there's definitely an alignment cop and a tracker with the flips we've had. There almost certainly has to be.
I'm tracker, CoolestGodfather claimed double lynch and other than that I don't think there's been a PR claim.
 

Dr. Monkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,029
I think I'll sit for a while, though, and finish my analysis. Not many left who haven't claimed, eh. And some vanillas.
 

absolutbro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,628
Huh, weird. Couple options in no particular order:

1. Scum did not put in the night kill.
2. We have a commuter or other self saviour
3. The blocker was neutral

I'm going to crash shortly, but should be around tomorrow. This day phase goes until Friday night, correct?
 

Verelios

Member
Oct 26, 2017
14,878
Search is failing me - were you x-shot? did you post a list of targets? I've read a lot of discussion of the claim and the Stu situation but I've missed some of the details.
Yep, I was 3 shot.

1•I tracked Stu N1 but was switched by GenoDream to a mafia member

2•I was blocked for consecutive nights

3•I tracked Chugger who didn't move (Don't know if I can trust this since Geno was alive still)

4• I tracked AB who didn't move two nights ago, which I think I can trust since we got Geno out
 

Dr. Monkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,029
Thanks, booboo. You tracked AB the night after Geno died? And when you were blocked I guess you got a report/got shots back?
 

Verelios

Member
Oct 26, 2017
14,878
Thanks, booboo. You tracked AB the night after Geno died? And when you were blocked I guess you got a report/got shots back?
Yep, tracked AB the night Geno died and he didn't move. Given scum took a shot and (I'm guessing there's only one more scum left) used their ability I'm leaning town on AB.

Every time I was blocked I got shots back for that night.
 

Dr. Monkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,029
Yep, tracked AB the night Geno died and he didn't move. Given scum took a shot and (I'm guessing there's only one more scum left) used their ability I'm leaning town on AB.

Every time I was blocked I got shots back for that night.
I assume you tracked him he's had some of the shadiest damn votes in the game. I'm honestly kinda surprised but with a switcher and a ninja flipped, and a clear roleblocker somewhere, unless there's two scum left it's not like to be him.

Also lol that scum stack on rac-me d1.
 

Verelios

Member
Oct 26, 2017
14,878
I assume you tracked him he's had some of the shadiest damn votes in the game. I'm honestly kinda surprised but with a switcher and a ninja flipped, and a clear roleblocker somewhere, unless there's two scum left it's not like to be him.

Also lol that scum stack on rac-me d1.
What pushed me to track him was a reluctance for self-preservation versus GenoDream who hasn't had a good record, which I guess was genuinely just hesitation.
 
Oct 25, 2017
23,218
I assume you tracked him he's had some of the shadiest damn votes in the game. I'm honestly kinda surprised but with a switcher and a ninja flipped, and a clear roleblocker somewhere, unless there's two scum left it's not like to be him.

Also lol that scum stack on rac-me d1.

lmao okay yeah, that's amazing in hindsight. Just 3 out of 4 scum on that vote
 

Dr. Monkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,029
Okay, sorry if I'm saying a bunch of obvious stuff - I've never replaced into a game this late and I'm super tired from the last one and my MU game starts tomorrow so uh... I'll do my best.

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I had that note about scum bussing d1 but I'm pretty sure it's just been a bus fest with the last scum; there's not a clean vote in the latter half of the game, I think. I cannot figure that it would be AbBro if we're trusting Vere's track but I don't see much reason not to; this game is labeled normal (though switcher, ugh) - I guess then that switcher is the most dramatic thing happening, and I firmly believe this game does have a tracker. If it doesn't, RIP us.

So I'm townreading TWE and Vere, and probably kits. If we trust the result on AbBro, that leaves a very small PoE. My big question though is why is TWE still alive since he looks town on paper and has been apparently pretty fairly townread. And do we have a reason to think of the double lynch as town? Again, I'm sorry if some of this (all of it, maybe) has been answered. I'm going to bed and have meetings tomorrow so I won't clog up the thread with too much nonsense.
 

TheWorthyEdge

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,817
I had that note about scum bussing d1 but I'm pretty sure it's just been a bus fest with the last scum; there's not a clean vote in the latter half of the game, I think. I cannot figure that it would be AbBro if we're trusting Vere's track but I don't see much reason not to; this game is labeled normal (though switcher, ugh) - I guess then that switcher is the most dramatic thing happening, and I firmly believe this game does have a tracker. If it doesn't, RIP us.

So I'm townreading TWE and Vere, and probably kits. If we trust the result on AbBro, that leaves a very small PoE. My big question though is why is TWE still alive since he looks town on paper and has been apparently pretty fairly townread. And do we have a reason to think of the double lynch as town? Again, I'm sorry if some of this (all of it, maybe) has been answered. I'm going to bed and have meetings tomorrow so I won't clog up the thread with too much nonsense.

This is my question as well...nobody other than me has been consistently read as town. So why not kill me?
 
Oct 25, 2017
23,218
Okay, so I have two theories.

First is just going back to AB, but now looking at it through the context of Puns being town. So let's look at how Fran acted right before he died. Fran basically scum reads AB and then votes me. When Puns calls him out on this, he states that he didn't take a vote for AB would take off. So then me, Puns, and Battou all vote AB, and when we ask Fran if he's going to vote with us, he instead scum reads town Puns and refuses to change his vote. And just why? Seriously, I can't see the long term plan for this if AB is town. He had every excuse to jump on the AB train and instead he didn't, made himself look shady, and got killed. I keep trying to think of a reason why Fran would do this besides AB being scum and I have nothing. I just don't really buy the excuse that AB hasn't been playing this smart if he is scum because that what's I thought about Geno the day before he flipped scum. My best guess is that AB is a blocker who ran out of blocks and that's why Vere didn't pick up on him when he moved. Or he stopped blocking Vere because he knew if he didn't move, Vere would think he was fine. There was no scum left for Vere to track anyway.

Second theory. And this one might be a bit of stretch and I would rather not follow up on this as long as AB is alive, but I want to get this out here in case I die. I call this the Frustrated Fran theory. Fran made it really obvious how frustrated he was by the lack of activity in the thread. What if it wasn't just the thread that Fran was mad about? What if scum chat was also mostly dead and Fran was going this mostly alone. One of his partners, Dream would of fit this description. Dream straight up didn't place a vote during EOD on day 2 when he could of saved ET, then he spent the rest of the game pretty inactive until he was replaced by Geno. If the other one is among the people replacing inactive players I think it could be Godfather. Kitsune replaced Pog, and while it didn't sell anyone, Pog put a lot of effort into scum reading Fran that seemed real. Godfather on the other hand replaced Coolest who spent most of day 2 and all of day 3 not around.
 

TheWorthyEdge

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,817
I don't know if it seemed weird to anyone else but Geno scum-leaned 2 people. Vere. and I. For me he said he didn't know why I was scum. He just said it randomly.
 

TheWorthyEdge

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,817
Okay, so I have two theories.

First is just going back to AB, but now looking at it through the context of Puns being town. So let's look at how Fran acted right before he died. Fran basically scum reads AB and then votes me. When Puns calls him out on this, he states that he didn't take a vote for AB would take off. So then me, Puns, and Battou all vote AB, and when we ask Fran if he's going to vote with us, he instead scum reads town Puns and refuses to change his vote. And just why? Seriously, I can't see the long term plan for this if AB is town. He had every excuse to jump on the AB train and instead he didn't, made himself look shady, and got killed. I keep trying to think of a reason why Fran would do this besides AB being scum and I have nothing. I just don't really buy the excuse that AB hasn't been playing this smart if he is scum because that what's I thought about Geno the day before he flipped scum. My best guess is that AB is a blocker who ran out of blocks and that's why Vere didn't pick up on him when he moved. Or he stopped blocking Vere because he knew if he didn't move, Vere would think he was fine. There was no scum left for Vere to track anyway.

Second theory. And this one might be a bit of stretch and I would rather not follow up on this as long as AB is alive, but I want to get this out here in case I die. I call this the Frustrated Fran theory. Fran made it really obvious how frustrated he was by the lack of activity in the thread. What if it wasn't just the thread that Fran was mad about? What if scum chat was also mostly dead and Fran was going this mostly alone. One of his partners, Dream would of fit this description. Dream straight up didn't place a vote during EOD on day 2 when he could of saved ET, then he spent the rest of the game pretty inactive until he was replaced by Geno. If the other one is among the people replacing inactive players I think it could be Godfather. Kitsune replaced Pog, and while it didn't sell anyone, Pog put a lot of effort into scum reading Fran that seemed real. Godfather on the other hand replaced Coolest who spent most of day 2 and all of day 3 not around.

The first makes the most sense to me regarding AB. AB's eod's have been so spotty, but I feel like it's TOO obvious.

So you're saying that one of the ones Fran was "frustrated" at was someone that had been replaced?
 

Godfather

Game on motherfuckers
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
3,504
So I currently trust Vere and AB and one other person who shall remain nameless for the moment. I want to see how things play out for now.

As for yesterday, sorry TP, but you were being super scummy. Tunneling on Verelios terrible. Still going to go back and check his posts again.

Can't decide if scum were comfortable waiting for us or if they jumped in to help push TP.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The first makes the most sense to me regarding AB. AB's eod's have been so spotty, but I feel like it's TOO obvious.

So you're saying that one of the ones Fran was "frustrated" at was someone that had been replaced?

And I get that, but I just don't see why Fran would go out of his way to save him especially since it basically caused him to die in the process.

Yeah, that's the idea.
 

Godfather

Game on motherfuckers
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
3,504
Guys, the problem with AB as scum is he didn't move but someone died. For AB to be scum, we have to have verelios as wrong/liar, AB as a ninja, or another scum committing the kill.

None of those are likely. That whole train of thought is a non-starter. Verelios and AB are as good as confirmed town at this point.

As for me, I could only be scum if I was a JOAT with at least two RB shots on top of my double lynch. If anyone really wants to push that agenda, feel free.

That leaves Monkey, chug, twe, and kitsune. One of whom is a cop as well.

That's as far as I'm going right now.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Guys, the problem with AB as scum is he didn't move but someone died. For AB to be scum, we have to have verelios as wrong/liar, AB as a ninja, or another scum committing the kill.

None of those are likely. That whole train of thought is a non-starter. Verelios and AB are as good as confirmed town at this point.

As for me, I could only be scum if I was a JOAT with at least two RB shots on top of my double lynch. If anyone really wants to push that agenda, feel free.

That leaves Monkey, chug, twe, and kitsune. One of whom is a cop as well.

That's as far as I'm going right now.

Oh, I didn't realize that killing someone made you move. I thought it was just using a special ability that did.
 

Kitsunelaine

Self-requested ban
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,382
I have no fucking idea what to make of the no kill from mafia.

I feel like the answer might be someone was protected. What claims do we have so far? Has anyone claimed an ability to do something like stop a kill?


Is no kill an option? Apopheniac ? Can scum elect not to use their night kill?

Scum at this point have no reason to not kill. We've thinned out their numbers enough to the point where anybody they can get is a must, because any night could be Scum's last.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I feel like the answer might be someone was protected. What claims do we have so far? Has anyone claimed an ability to do something like stop a kill?

You and AB have claimed vanilla town, Godfather claimed the double lynch dude (Does his role have a name?) and Vere claimed tracker. So either someone is lying or Worthy and Monkey are scum. Or I guess I could be scum, but I don't think I'm scum.
 

Godfather

Game on motherfuckers
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
3,504
You and AB have claimed vanilla town, Godfather claimed the double lynch dude (Does his role have a name?) and Vere claimed tracker. So either someone is lying or Worthy and Monkey are scum. Or I guess I could be scum, but I don't think I'm scum.
Explain how both Monkey and twe could be scum right now. Do you think there are 2 scum remaining?
 

TheWorthyEdge

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,817
I can assure you. I'm not.

When someone dies do we always see their EXACT Role? From what I was interpreting from TP was that he had something up his sleeve. Did anybody else feel this way? Could this have to do with the no NK? Is there something that could do that....?