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Game of Thrones Mafia - We're All Bastards Here
- Thread starter Natiko
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No, you're reading way into it. Look, fine. It'll make sense now.
I'm a one-shot bulletproof and I think the only reason it's still there is because Faddy has been tunneling me all game. Scum sees me as a lynch candidate; how can they not, when the confirmed town thinks I'm scum?
What is dead my never die, etc. I hinted all around it and said it could turn the game, but revealing it kinda steals the usefulness, much like KetKat's.
I have to make dinner. Again, I'd vote nin or ET. I'll be back well before EoD and I'll check in while I'm cooking to answer questions.
vote: nin
vote: nin
Interesting, and yes I do see what you mean about the hint now, and yes with the cat out of the bag it's not as useful.
However, similar to what I thought about Blarg's claim, this does smell somewhat like a claim that a veteran player would make as scum. It gives town a reason to not want to lynch you, and much like Blarg's I'm-poisoned-but-maybe-I-can-be-cured claim (though much less ridiculous) it gives us a reason to not be suspicious of you not dying in the night as we move further to the end-game.
I'll say that I believe it for now, and your reasoning makes sense, but that I have concerns. I still don't think we should vote for you today, I'm much more comfortable with Nin/Meatwad/ET today. Any of them go town though, I could be swayed.
I don't believe you. Why are you breadcrumbing a bulletproof role?
If you look at GoG's role she needs to steal powers, that doesn't fit. All the other PRs we have seen/claimed have been active roles that require a target.
The revive I won was essentially a one shot bulletproof/lynchproof, melon claimed the prize she won was to be untargetable on night 1. Another BP as a power on top of a X-shot doctor and Jailer too.
And the other protective roles have been confirmed from the lack of deaths in the night.
Faddy, I doubt you'd believe anything I said, frankly. So there's that.
We have a ton of negative/positive utility powers on townside. Jailer with a vig - both negative and positive. Doctor/protector-positive, but limited. Lovers - negative utility for town overall, but they gain a chat. Bodyguard - positive but if it works will also always kill a town. Deflect - can kill a town at the expense of another. I was mildly surprised when I saw KetKat's flip in particular but looking at the way powers zigzag and with extra kills, it is what it is. I'm sure the game's a friggen nightmare to reconcile actions for, but it's a mechanic-heavy, power-heavy game. Your revive could have gone to anyone, and so could melon's untargetable; those can't be considered as part of town balance. Scum or neutrals could have won them as easily.
Just to bring up some more things regarding role claims that are on my mind:
Faddy suspected on D6 that the Mafia team probably have a Roleblocker, a Role Cop, and a Strongman. He was right about the Roleblocker, that was Blarg's primary role. A Role Cop makes sense to pair with Blarg's recruitment ability. Strongman, which I just looked up online, also makes sense with all of these protection claims we have, as well as to pair with the Role Cop once again.
There are now 4 people who have not made a claim to their role:
FEPs
Kopite
ET
Include
Of these 4, it is possible we have one or even two Mafia members in there that haven't made a claim yet because it's going to need to be a lie. Not saying I'm scum-reading these 4 because of that (though it doesn't help ET at all), just something I thought was worth bringing up.
Faddy suspected on D6 that the Mafia team probably have a Roleblocker, a Role Cop, and a Strongman. He was right about the Roleblocker, that was Blarg's primary role. A Role Cop makes sense to pair with Blarg's recruitment ability. Strongman, which I just looked up online, also makes sense with all of these protection claims we have, as well as to pair with the Role Cop once again.
There are now 4 people who have not made a claim to their role:
FEPs
Kopite
ET
Include
Of these 4, it is possible we have one or even two Mafia members in there that haven't made a claim yet because it's going to need to be a lie. Not saying I'm scum-reading these 4 because of that (though it doesn't help ET at all), just something I thought was worth bringing up.
Role cop doesn't help them recruit since the mechanic runs out too early. I would guess no rolecop and something else instead.
How else do you breadcrumb a bulletproof in this game, Faddy? I mean really.
(it's also far from the only thing I said)
They can role cop on night 1, recruit on night 2. And it helps narrow down the pool of players to attempt to recruit.
It would give them at least something to go on rather than 2 shots in the dark on N1 and N2, that's my thinking anyway. And I still think a Role Cop would pair with a Strongman wouldn't it? Like finding out someone has a really good role and wanting them gone would be something you want the Strongman to take care of, not the normal kill that could get protected against, right?
You never breadcrumb a role like that.
What you do is breacrumb a different role and be happy when you get shot.
True, and there are other roles to get, but I think that's limited partnership. Almost certainly a strongman, probably x-shot, but I would have guessed fewer missed kills if a role cop + strongman. No ninja since it looks like there's no tracker. Maybe a godfather, since there was a backup cop.
I do not agree with you. I do think we need information and we make choices on how and what to give. I think town should be working a little harder, too, but look at all the people doing so very little.
Did you breadcrumb when you had the same(ish) role in Marvel?
I was part of a lover's pair, it was a different game, and a different situation. Don't act like it's the same. Wasn't even the same role, just a bonus. And why's mafia gonna shoot me here? It gives you something to do. Faddy, look around.
I've claimed on demand. I've put up my analyses. I've answered your questions. I can't do much more and I'm tired. I'll check back before EoD but I'm gonna go eat dinner.
I could be swayed to Meatwad, I could be swayed to ET, but I'm not voting Dr. Monkey today. I see no reason to suspect her more than the others. I feel like her defense has been far better than any defense offered by Nin, Meatwad, or Kits/ET, that's for sure.
I mean, Nin is basically trolling the game like Blarg was at this point, you think he's not a better lynch candidate today over Dr. Monkey, who at least puts effort into her posts?
Not saying I'm fully town-reading Monkey or that I think this suspicion isn't good, I think it is, and like I said I have some concerns over that claim of her's because it gives me some of the same thoughts I had about Blarg's claims. But, I'm not ready to lynch her today. Tomorrow I'll consider it more. If Nin or whoever we lynch today is Town, then I'll highly consider it. But not today.
I mean, Nin is basically trolling the game like Blarg was at this point, you think he's not a better lynch candidate today over Dr. Monkey, who at least puts effort into her posts?
Not saying I'm fully town-reading Monkey or that I think this suspicion isn't good, I think it is, and like I said I have some concerns over that claim of her's because it gives me some of the same thoughts I had about Blarg's claims. But, I'm not ready to lynch her today. Tomorrow I'll consider it more. If Nin or whoever we lynch today is Town, then I'll highly consider it. But not today.
As long as we lynch inside nin, monkey, ET it will be fine.
I think I want to give Meatwad a pass for today.
Monkey always puts effort into her posts and it can be valuable information but she is also mafia so you need to read it with a lot of caution. I really think we should be lynching her right now.
Fantomas can we agree to let Giant Panda choose.
He picks between monkey and nin. Whoever he chooses we move our votes so all 3 of us are on the same lynch.
He picks between monkey and nin. Whoever he chooses we move our votes so all 3 of us are on the same lynch.
I was going to suggest a compromise vote on ET. I don't know if I feel comfortable making GP the one to have all the say in this today. I think most of us are comfortable with an ET lynch though, so if you don't want to move to nin, how about we go off your D1 meta reads like you said you wanted to do earlier since Blarg did end up flipping scum:
==== DAY 7 VOTES ====
Day Start
dr. monkey (3 votes)
nin - #4709 #4849
kopite - #4867
faddy - #4868
nin - #4870
nin (3 votes)
include - #4790
fantomas - #4836
dr. monkey - #4887
meatwad (1 votes)
flatearthpandas - #4731 #4756
giant panda - #4754
kopite - #4802 #4867
kopite - #4801 #4802
extreme tactician (0 votes)
faddy - #4759 #4868
nin - #4850 #4870
extremetactician (0 votes)
nin - #4849 #4850
Post Counts: dr. monkey: 49 flatearthpandas: 40 nin: 28 faddy: 28 fantomas: 21 kopite: 17 meatwad: 12 giant panda: 11 include: 9 extreme tactician: 8 natiko: 1 pirate bae: 1
Day Ends In:
aka Monday, September 10th at 7:00 PM EDT (UTC -04:00)
Day Start
dr. monkey (3 votes)
kopite - #4867
faddy - #4868
nin - #4870
nin (3 votes)
include - #4790
fantomas - #4836
dr. monkey - #4887
meatwad (1 votes)
giant panda - #4754
extreme tactician (0 votes)
extremetactician (0 votes)
Post Counts: dr. monkey: 49 flatearthpandas: 40 nin: 28 faddy: 28 fantomas: 21 kopite: 17 meatwad: 12 giant panda: 11 include: 9 extreme tactician: 8 natiko: 1 pirate bae: 1
Day Ends In:
aka Monday, September 10th at 7:00 PM EDT (UTC -04:00)
How do you feel about nin voting for extreme tactician today and monkey and Blarg voting for him (kits) as an alternative to Blarg on day 5?
Notice that Meatwad has completely disappeared for over half the day. He's managed to get people to largely forget about him by staying out of the spotlight in my opinion. Or maybe I'm just tunneling.
If I understand where you're going with this, yeah I could see those Kits votes being buses.
Honestly anyone who wasn't at least taking our call for a Blarg vote on D5 seriously is someone I'm side-eyeing, and I never felt like Monkey was actually taking it seriously, just paying it lip service. Nin was actively defending Blarg on D6 still, so yeah, a Blarg/Kits/Nin/Monkey team is something that's possible. God I wish we could get a check on Meatwad though.
Yeah but we need to make a decision soon. We can't have a re-run of day 5 where you and ketkat have to late vote to break a tie.
And just look at that day. Monkey's vote on Girlofgotham is the thing that saves Blargonaut.
I think you're tunneling, I'm reading the thread carefully and considering the arguments between Dr. Monkey and Nin. I think there have been some good points raised for both. Dr Monkey seemed to rankle at being pushed to role claim. And Nin has been acting Blarg like. Also Nin buddying up to Faddy was a red flag for me. But with how close things are right now I'm trying to be careful and not vote to lynch town this day.
Though Dr. Monkey has been trending scummier the last few days, I heavily town-read her earlier in the game, so it is making me a bit hesitant to lynch her now. She has largely been active and helpful throughout the game. However, that may just be her style, but I wouldn't know as I don't have the past experience with her to make meta reads. The BP claim isn't great in that there's no way to check it, but I consider it plausible.
I think Meatwad, Nin, and ET are better lynches. ET has been a bit less scummy than the other 2 IMO, but it would provide probably the most info as far as clearing up day 1. That could be useful info for tomorrow, if we make it to tomorrow.
I think Meatwad, Nin, and ET are better lynches. ET has been a bit less scummy than the other 2 IMO, but it would provide probably the most info as far as clearing up day 1. That could be useful info for tomorrow, if we make it to tomorrow.
Did you ever look up your interactions with Blarg that cleared you as not his partner?
Put your trust in me about her. She is mafia.
It isn't about being useful and doing work, it is about being town. It is why Monkey is bringing up low content posters today, because she looks better compared to them.
Yeah I really don't want a repeat of D5. I don't want indecisive town with 2 minutes to go. I think we need to decide now.
Do we want to go Nin, ET, Meatwad, or Monkey?
Those seem to be the top candidates.
I'm on Nin with Include and Monkey.
Faddy/Kopite/Nin are on Monkey.
GP is on Meatwad.
Nobody is currently on ET.
Where do we want to move to?
I don't have a good connection and on mobile but I wanted to respond to this.
Monkey will agree that we are 100% not connected in any way or Form
This is a solid point. And nin is a bit of a wildcard as a player so I haven't seen his behaviour as wholly alignment indicative.
You are on the town block vote Kopite
Me, you, GP and Fantomas must vote the same way.
None of my interactions with Blarg, which are very few btw paint me as his partner imo. In fact I voted to lynch Blarg day one. But I already explained that if I was Blarg's scum partner that it wouldn't make any sense for me to openly pal around with him. Obviously there is nothing that can definitively clear me otherwise I'd offer it up
It is looking unlikely to me too. Almost no attempts at pushing other lynches.
I really REALLY just want to lynch Monkey today.
I have been denied my wishes so many times. Do it for ME town!
Thats bs. Like lol
Again at this stage I am okay what will happen either way. If it is me who bites the dust today, so be it. Hopefully town will look at those who actively wanted me dead instead of saying: well yeah he acted strange its Nin.
I think we should go ET. Come on, no one ever heavily read Kits as town, and ET hasn't done much for himself since joining. If there's concerns about Nin and Monkey's relations, we should go for another, and I think ET is the common read from us all.
Vote: Extreme Tactician
Vote: Extreme Tactician
So it is up to you. Either the compromise lynch on Extreme Tactician or the bold lynch on Monkey
