You think i was burn yesterday? no way I respond to that bait. what's my name kitsupandas?
Game of Thrones Mafia - We're All Bastards Here
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Ok. But I don't feel like I have done anything wrong and most of the personal abuse in this game has been aimed at me.
I'm in the Target parking lot and I hate mobile so I apologize for typos in advance but something just occurred and I didn't want to forget. Not caught up so if I missed something, sorry. feps if you just want us to deep read people we already have reads on, one per person, how is that not just busywork? What is it you think will be gained?
Exactly, today he is so obviously worried about being lynched that he is going against everything he said previously with no reasons to it! While pocketing the loud voices in the process.
The more someone try to push me too look elsewhere the more I look at them, and while looking at nin's read from yesterday and today is like day & night, looking at nin's activity since he joined and today is like day & night, heck looking at town!nin gameplay from the previous games I played with him and this game is like day & night.
Yeah clearly you are not trying to push me away from you... and for reference you made yet another contradiction.
Are you purposely messing with me? Not only the first post and the second post contradict themselves but also the second post on itself is full of contradictions. You know who you remind me of? Blarg, that's who and speaking of Blarg, you didn't vote for him two days phase in row, coincidence? I think not.
Vote: nin
I knew someone would bring along the low hanging fruit of me not voting Blarg.
Thing is, I did not place a vote on him since he was going to be lynched anyway.
Nothing I can say or do now will change that mind, since I grilled Meatwad for the same reason lol
That's the only coincidence :)
Lol, I'm not abandoning any trains, no votes have been placed. I made a big post about Meatwad, I made a case again in the follow up that him applying retroactive thoughts to D5 isn't something that I can believe easily.
I was saying yesterday I wanted you next, I'm not contradicting anything.
You are next on that list. Faddy clearly has his case for Kitsune/ET, Dr. Monkey, and now Include, are all over you. I had been and wanted to continue making a case against Meatwad, so I did, but that doesn't mean I don't want you dead too.
Negging me and Fantomas isn't a good look, expected more from you.
Ok, here is the up to date version of the claimed roles/religions list.
I've updated it to include the death dates and links to the flips for each of the departed, as well as the days on which the claims were made and links to the posts. If the claim was spread out among a few posts, I tried to just include the earliest one. I'm pretty sure this is complete, but if you spot something inaccurate or missing, please point it out.
Confirmed due to death:
Exodus - Confirmed Town and Eligible For All Religion Rewards - No Religion - Died D1
Muffin - Confirmed Vanilla Town - Worships Red God - Died N1
DCPat - Confirmed Town and Weak Cop - Worships Faith - Died N1
Ezekial - Confirmed Neutral and Able To Convert People To Red God Religion - Worships Red God - Died N1
Splinter - Confirmed Town and Backup Cop - Worships Old Gods - Died D2
Melonrabbit - Confirmed Town and Jailer - Worships Faith - Died D3
Zeusy - Confirmed Town and 4-Way Gladiator Thunderdome - Worships Faith - Died D4
DoubleD/Gorlak - Confirmed Vanilla Town - Worships Red God - Died N4
Girlofgotham - Confirmed Neutral and Assassin - Worships Many-Faced God - Died D5
Stanley - Confirmed Town and Lovers with B-Dubs - Worships Faith - Died N5
B-Dubs - Confirmed Town and Lovers with Stan - Worships Faith - Died N5
Blargonaut - Confirmed Mafia Roleblocker and 2 Shot Recruiter (only vanilla town) - Worships Red God - Died D6
KetKat - Confirmed Bodyguard - Worships Old Gods - Died N6
Purgatory
Apollo - Died, But No Flip - No Claims - Died N5
Claimed Roles:
Giant Panda - Claimed 3-Shot Protector on D5 - No Religion Claim
Faddy - Claimed X-Shot Redirect on D4 - Claimed Drowned God on D3
Indy/Trigger - Claimed Vanilla Town On D3 - Claimed Drowned God On D3
Fantomas - Claimed Religion Hypnotist On D6 - Claimed Drowned God On D6
Dr. Monkey - Claimed 1 Shot Power On D6 - Claimed Drowned God On D3
Meatwad - Claimed Vanilla Town On D5 - No Religion Claim
CeeCee/Nin - Claimed Vanilla Town On D7 - Claimed Drowned God On D3
Claimed No Role But Did Claim a Religion:
Kistunelaine/Extreme Tactician - Nothing - Hypnotized to Reveal Old Gods On D3
No Claims:
Kopite - Nothing
FEPs - Nothing
Zookfoodle/Include - Nothing
I've updated it to include the death dates and links to the flips for each of the departed, as well as the days on which the claims were made and links to the posts. If the claim was spread out among a few posts, I tried to just include the earliest one. I'm pretty sure this is complete, but if you spot something inaccurate or missing, please point it out.
Confirmed due to death:
Exodus - Confirmed Town and Eligible For All Religion Rewards - No Religion - Died D1
Muffin - Confirmed Vanilla Town - Worships Red God - Died N1
DCPat - Confirmed Town and Weak Cop - Worships Faith - Died N1
Ezekial - Confirmed Neutral and Able To Convert People To Red God Religion - Worships Red God - Died N1
Splinter - Confirmed Town and Backup Cop - Worships Old Gods - Died D2
Melonrabbit - Confirmed Town and Jailer - Worships Faith - Died D3
Zeusy - Confirmed Town and 4-Way Gladiator Thunderdome - Worships Faith - Died D4
DoubleD/Gorlak - Confirmed Vanilla Town - Worships Red God - Died N4
Girlofgotham - Confirmed Neutral and Assassin - Worships Many-Faced God - Died D5
Stanley - Confirmed Town and Lovers with B-Dubs - Worships Faith - Died N5
B-Dubs - Confirmed Town and Lovers with Stan - Worships Faith - Died N5
Blargonaut - Confirmed Mafia Roleblocker and 2 Shot Recruiter (only vanilla town) - Worships Red God - Died D6
KetKat - Confirmed Bodyguard - Worships Old Gods - Died N6
Purgatory
Apollo - Died, But No Flip - No Claims - Died N5
Claimed Roles:
Giant Panda - Claimed 3-Shot Protector on D5 - No Religion Claim
Faddy - Claimed X-Shot Redirect on D4 - Claimed Drowned God on D3
Indy/Trigger - Claimed Vanilla Town On D3 - Claimed Drowned God On D3
Fantomas - Claimed Religion Hypnotist On D6 - Claimed Drowned God On D6
Dr. Monkey - Claimed 1 Shot Power On D6 - Claimed Drowned God On D3
Meatwad - Claimed Vanilla Town On D5 - No Religion Claim
CeeCee/Nin - Claimed Vanilla Town On D7 - Claimed Drowned God On D3
Claimed No Role But Did Claim a Religion:
Kistunelaine/Extreme Tactician - Nothing - Hypnotized to Reveal Old Gods On D3
No Claims:
Kopite - Nothing
FEPs - Nothing
Zookfoodle/Include - Nothing
The idea was just that everyone in the game would have a case against them and we can Eagar is actually the most convincing
Sorry for getting into that. No excuses really
The point was just that I have been happy with most lynches. Sure there have been some town but it's not toothless.
Point out where I was the first one in this game to point a finger at CeeCee/nin, please.
(You won't be able to, because I townread CeeCee early game, while others did not.)
Catching up, but more focused on my vote analysis. Took me longer to get back than I expected.
I forgot to reply to this post and I'll reply to some and the rest later.
- She has a very scummy opening, not posting any content
- She becomes irritable just like her previous scum games
- Splinter wanted to kill her
- She spent a significant part of the game undermining me.(although not the only person*) It has taken this long but it looks like town is finally listening
Analysis on CeeCee/nin based on votes and context - probably missing a bit here and there due to Era search but I tried to collect relevant info around the votes. Meatwad is next.
D1
CeeCee voted No Lynch to end the day - see below - it's a weird move
Before that voted four people. Two were early joke votes, it seems. Had a scum read on Blarg but didn't keep the vote there - moved then moved again.
Important to note DCPat called this out because CeeCee had a "strong scum read" on Blarg but voted Faddy for what isn't a particularly good reason. (CeeCee argued a bit throughout though, saying it was NOT a strong scum read, particularly.) With what we've seen since, that's not a great look.
Side note: feps also jumped on that vote, but continued to push Exodus, trying to get CeeCee on that vote, but CeeCee "didn't fancy the other options," which were kits and Blarg. Then he said he would vote to break the tie but then goes out on that no lynch vote. Why??
Overall, d1 CeeCee is just scattered.
Day 2, CeeCee votes for melon, unvotes, and then never votes again (but we turboed, too).
The unvote was naked.
Day 3 CeeCee votes for melon. CeeCee's reads are very thin.
The melon vote was also naked. CeeCee left after that, so we transition to nin
nin legit has some of the shadiest votes in the game. D4 he votes Fantomas, basically for Faddy (playing up to the confirmed town as his entrance?):
D5 he votes Giant Panda but would also vote Gotham. In the vote post, he doesn't address Blarg at all.
D6 he never voted and actually defended Blarg, when he was almost mathematically certainly scum:
Then today he's voting for me. Says he's following Kopite, who isn't voting for me, and who also hasn't answered my questions yet, but I'll get to that.
D1
CeeCee voted No Lynch to end the day - see below - it's a weird move
Before that voted four people. Two were early joke votes, it seems. Had a scum read on Blarg but didn't keep the vote there - moved then moved again.
Important to note DCPat called this out because CeeCee had a "strong scum read" on Blarg but voted Faddy for what isn't a particularly good reason. (CeeCee argued a bit throughout though, saying it was NOT a strong scum read, particularly.) With what we've seen since, that's not a great look.
Side note: feps also jumped on that vote, but continued to push Exodus, trying to get CeeCee on that vote, but CeeCee "didn't fancy the other options," which were kits and Blarg. Then he said he would vote to break the tie but then goes out on that no lynch vote. Why??
The No Lynch vote, in retrospect, feels like one of the only townie moves here - usually a No Lynch is controversial but here no on paid it much mind, probably because it was right at EoD - when it was COMPLETELY useless and then the next day we had a red check. But honestly I wish we'd pushed on this more. It really stands out and I can't see a purpose for it at all except as a reach for town cred.
Overall, d1 CeeCee is just scattered.
Day 2, CeeCee votes for melon, unvotes, and then never votes again (but we turboed, too).
The unvote was naked.
Day 3 CeeCee votes for melon. CeeCee's reads are very thin.
The melon vote was also naked. CeeCee left after that, so we transition to nin
nin legit has some of the shadiest votes in the game. D4 he votes Fantomas, basically for Faddy (playing up to the confirmed town as his entrance?):
D5 he votes Giant Panda but would also vote Gotham. In the vote post, he doesn't address Blarg at all.
D6 he never voted and actually defended Blarg, when he was almost mathematically certainly scum:
Then today he's voting for me. Says he's following Kopite, who isn't voting for me, and who also hasn't answered my questions yet, but I'll get to that.
Analysis on Meatwad's vote. Some post-links included here and I'm on 100ppp so they don't always work for people unless I do the extra step, and I didn't, so I also included the numbers. Sorry, I didn't think of it when I was pulling stuff.
Meatwad was a late arrival, not posting much on d1.
Voted kitsunelaine early for voting Blarg and doing little else. Seems to have voted Blarg later for self-voting. Not a whole lot of activity in between; just some light commentary here and there from Meatwad. I see d1 as being kind of a nothingburger. I will say this - Meatwad seemed to have moved slowly - by the time he posted his vote against Blarg's self-vote, Blarg had already voted again (and again) and a lot of votes were moving. So it's not a great look but also not immediately damning; could easily have just been slow. Could also be a safe vote on a scum buddy. Overall, I find it inconclusive, but I'd like someone else to go look at the context there. Starts around #1139 when Stan asks why people are still voting Blarg and then Blarg votes himself a minute later.
D2, he was not on the Splinter turbo.
D3 voted melon with some bad phrasing:
Yeah, that's not a great look; there's policy lynching and there's lack of trust, but "don't care if she's town or what" rings poorly.
There was some of that going around, too - B-Dubs, who has since flipped, also talked about "retaliation," so there was a lot of ick phrasing in general. Feps too. But that was also a bad day for the whole game, so I don't know how to weigh it. There was also a phrasing debacle earlier today.
D4, was a relatively early vote on Zeusy:
Little more here:
D5, none of Meatwad's attempts to vote Gotham actually went through.
Gotham seemed to be digging into Meatwad a bit but that's useless because she was neutral. We do have Meatwad giving a light scumread on Gotham early on d5 in #3848. The justification didn't come later with the botched votes, though.
The data on his Blarg positions was already collected by others so I won't repeat that work. Meatwad hasn't had that many votes, period.
Meatwad was a late arrival, not posting much on d1.
Voted kitsunelaine early for voting Blarg and doing little else. Seems to have voted Blarg later for self-voting. Not a whole lot of activity in between; just some light commentary here and there from Meatwad. I see d1 as being kind of a nothingburger. I will say this - Meatwad seemed to have moved slowly - by the time he posted his vote against Blarg's self-vote, Blarg had already voted again (and again) and a lot of votes were moving. So it's not a great look but also not immediately damning; could easily have just been slow. Could also be a safe vote on a scum buddy. Overall, I find it inconclusive, but I'd like someone else to go look at the context there. Starts around #1139 when Stan asks why people are still voting Blarg and then Blarg votes himself a minute later.
D2, he was not on the Splinter turbo.
D3 voted melon with some bad phrasing:
Yeah, that's not a great look; there's policy lynching and there's lack of trust, but "don't care if she's town or what" rings poorly.
There was some of that going around, too - B-Dubs, who has since flipped, also talked about "retaliation," so there was a lot of ick phrasing in general. Feps too. But that was also a bad day for the whole game, so I don't know how to weigh it. There was also a phrasing debacle earlier today.
D4, was a relatively early vote on Zeusy:
Little more here:
D5, none of Meatwad's attempts to vote Gotham actually went through.
Gotham seemed to be digging into Meatwad a bit but that's useless because she was neutral. We do have Meatwad giving a light scumread on Gotham early on d5 in #3848. The justification didn't come later with the botched votes, though.
The data on his Blarg positions was already collected by others so I won't repeat that work. Meatwad hasn't had that many votes, period.
ET, I think a position of defending kits' play is going to be difficult. We've all seen it and have built our opinions. Best you can do is give your take and then show us why we shouldn't lynch you. Struggling to see where a bulleted list is really going to take us anywhere too useful.
My take on it? Ok then, I'll give some thoughts on her for the first days.
Kits starts the game with a few shitposts, and then wanders in and out of the thread. Faddy thinks her attitude is bullshit and pins her down, and a lynch starts against her. She's frustrated that her posts and Blarg are called out and she makes a huge upset about it. This kinda makes her more suspicious, and she's almost lynched if it weren't for the death of Exodus.
Is that right? I can't seem to use the search to find her posts before page 46, so I have to reread her posts again.
Oh my god why is page 12 still day one.
Meatwad's vote came about 4 minutes after Blarg's. I think that can be given up as just a bit slow. Especially as there was evidence of some tag trouble in his vote.
Meatwad got pretty defensive pretty quickly at that vote.
Definitely scum between Include, Fantomas, ET, and Faddy D1
Likely scum between feps, giant panda, and trigger
D2 and 3 are trash.
D4 I am side-eyeing everyone on the zeusy vote.
Giant Panda, Meatwad, ET, Fantomas, Kopite
Repeat offenders: GP, Meatwad, ET, Fan
D5, votes on Blarg look good. Fan looks good. GOG is NAI except that Blarg was the other choice. So mild shade at feps, ET, monkey, GP
Second time repeat offenders: GP and ET. First time repeat: feps
I still have personal reservations about fantomas, but top ones to look at are GP and ET. As ET (kits) was one of the trains D1 that reads on fan and include are partially coming from, I think ET makes the most sense to lynch today.
Definitely scum between Include, Fantomas, ET, and Faddy D1
Likely scum between feps, giant panda, and trigger
D2 and 3 are trash.
D4 I am side-eyeing everyone on the zeusy vote.
Giant Panda, Meatwad, ET, Fantomas, Kopite
Repeat offenders: GP, Meatwad, ET, Fan
D5, votes on Blarg look good. Fan looks good. GOG is NAI except that Blarg was the other choice. So mild shade at feps, ET, monkey, GP
Second time repeat offenders: GP and ET. First time repeat: feps
I still have personal reservations about fantomas, but top ones to look at are GP and ET. As ET (kits) was one of the trains D1 that reads on fan and include are partially coming from, I think ET makes the most sense to lynch today.
Would still like Giant Panda's supposed movement for N4 and N5.
To answer the question about why more civilly, I think the wifom of your shots has expired. In two days, you ought to have used it.
To answer the question about why more civilly, I think the wifom of your shots has expired. In two days, you ought to have used it.
Are you referring to yourself in the third person or were you trying to quote someone?
Felt like it was more convenient for everyone since it was a list of players. I still use the first person pronoun outside of that. I think what nin did was pretty different
Did you refer to yourself as likely scum? Wouldn't you be confirmed town lol from your own pint of view
No.
No.
Do you guys seriously not understand what "between" means?
I'm sorry for the misinterpretation then, but why would you think he's scum?
I lied about having the shot left. I hoped it would dissuade scum from going after Faddy and the Lovers, but it obviously didn't work. I had used my last shot N4 on Faddy.
Bonus points to Include for basically realizing that I was giving an excuse for why I still had a shot.
So I did nothing N4 and N5.
Fell asleep early so I didn't finish my analyses, so will get on that this morning. Have a few posts I want to respond to first.
My power is DEFINITELY only 2 shots as well so I 100% didn't use a 3rd short on Blarg and TOTALLY DO NOT have ANY shots left either :-)
==== DAY 7 VOTES ====
Day Start
meatwad (2 votes)
flatearthpandas - #4731 #4756
giant panda - #4754
kopite - #4802
extreme tactician (1 votes)
faddy - #4759
dr. monkey (1 votes)
nin - #4709
nin (1 votes)
include - #4790
(0 votes)
kopite - #4801 #4802
Post Counts:
flatearthpandas: 39 nin: 25 dr. monkey: 17 faddy: 15 meatwad: 12 fantomas: 12 extreme tactician: 8 giant panda: 7 kopite: 7 include: 6 natiko: 1 pirate bae: 1
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Day Start
meatwad (2 votes)
giant panda - #4754
kopite - #4802
extreme tactician (1 votes)
faddy - #4759
dr. monkey (1 votes)
nin - #4709
nin (1 votes)
include - #4790
(0 votes)
Post Counts:
flatearthpandas: 39 nin: 25 dr. monkey: 17 faddy: 15 meatwad: 12 fantomas: 12 extreme tactician: 8 giant panda: 7 kopite: 7 include: 6 natiko: 1 pirate bae: 1
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We ABSOLUTELY are out of shots. There is no way we can prevent another kill. This is very UNFORTUNATE.
Can you break these down? For instance, who should people have voted if not Zeusy on D4? Flipped town also voted there.
Why your d1 list? What's behind that?
I'm glad you include yourself in here; that's a nice touch, but if people can't see how you're getting to your conclusions, I'm not sure what it's worth.