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Hearthstone |OT1| New Era, Same Meta
- Thread starter ZealousD
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Sooooo you can infinite combo in Shaman now too
Cards Used:
2x fire plume harbinger
grumble
zola the gorgon
murmuring elemental
one or more elementals with a damaging battlecry (blazecaller is ideal)
Actual Requirements for OTK:
2 grumbles in hand
2 fire plume harbingers in hand
one of these 4 cards needs to have its mana reduced by 1
an elemental capable of dealing face damage
Setup:
play fire plume harbinger x2 , grumble, murmuring, zola on grumble (10 mana)
OTK: (assuming 1 fire plume harbinger has been reduced to 1 mana previously)
play 2x fire plume harbinger (grumbles cost 4) - 8 mana remaining
play a grumble - 4 mana remaining
play a fire plume harbinger - 3 mana remaining
play the other grumble - 0 mana remaining
from here you'll have a free harbinger, a grumble on board, a 1 mana grumble in hand and a 1 mana harbinger in hand and another elemental of indeterminate cost
you just keep playing the 0 mana harbinger followed by a 0 mana grumble until you reduce the cost of your damaging elemental to 1
then your cycle becomes:
0 mana harbinger > damaging elemental > 0 mana grumble
repeat until dead.
The issue is grumble's animation time and the number of cards that need to be played in order to make the lethal happen. Things can be sped up by using more than one damaging elemental in a cycle (kalimos animation and selection would also be slow)
- servant of kalimos can also be used to discover the second grumble
- having previously discounted damaging elementals helps speed up the combo
edit: 2nd murmuring can also be used to improve speed throughout the process, even dropping a full cost murmuring at the start of the combo is more than worthwhile
Cards Used:
2x fire plume harbinger
grumble
zola the gorgon
murmuring elemental
one or more elementals with a damaging battlecry (blazecaller is ideal)
Actual Requirements for OTK:
2 grumbles in hand
2 fire plume harbingers in hand
one of these 4 cards needs to have its mana reduced by 1
an elemental capable of dealing face damage
Setup:
play fire plume harbinger x2 , grumble, murmuring, zola on grumble (10 mana)
OTK: (assuming 1 fire plume harbinger has been reduced to 1 mana previously)
play 2x fire plume harbinger (grumbles cost 4) - 8 mana remaining
play a grumble - 4 mana remaining
play a fire plume harbinger - 3 mana remaining
play the other grumble - 0 mana remaining
from here you'll have a free harbinger, a grumble on board, a 1 mana grumble in hand and a 1 mana harbinger in hand and another elemental of indeterminate cost
you just keep playing the 0 mana harbinger followed by a 0 mana grumble until you reduce the cost of your damaging elemental to 1
then your cycle becomes:
0 mana harbinger > damaging elemental > 0 mana grumble
repeat until dead.
The issue is grumble's animation time and the number of cards that need to be played in order to make the lethal happen. Things can be sped up by using more than one damaging elemental in a cycle (kalimos animation and selection would also be slow)
- servant of kalimos can also be used to discover the second grumble
- having previously discounted damaging elementals helps speed up the combo
edit: 2nd murmuring can also be used to improve speed throughout the process, even dropping a full cost murmuring at the start of the combo is more than worthwhile
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To my side! is not a particularly good card even if there was a deck that could take advantage of it. They either will push spell hunter really hard next year or someone somewhere made a mistake. Because I assume Blizzard do playtest the cards they make.
I did not expect them to immediately print a jade blossom replacement. Get ready for another year of UI.
This card is better than blossom in non jade decks imo.
Is there a way to counter a Priest who is stealing/copying cards from me? He always had a numerical card advange and was stalling the game until I ran into fatique:( Played a Control Mage without Primordial Glyph and other ramdom card generators.
I've found Elise to be the only card really helping me versus Priest as Control Mage, although trying not to draw cards helps as well (and getting Frost Lich in the first 15 cards).
Yeah, that card is actually Druid's worst ramp option, I think. Not necessarily bad, but the worst one.
Attaching borderline spells to a stick with very little stat penalty usually results in a playable card.
No. Malchezaar and the guy that produces demons when cards are played.
oh yeah I totally forgot about those.
anyway, this looks usable in a lot of ways, in the very least this could be useful in weird tavern bralws.
BTW the other cards look good and the shaman elemental doesn't fit every deck, but I distinctly remember how good brann was in the jade shaman deck.
Tonight in Hearthstone: 3 out of 3 Swashburglars generate legendaries, Doppelganger evolves into 3 legendaries.
And a 16/16 Prince Valanar. Luckily all of these save the first was mine.
And a 16/16 Prince Valanar. Luckily all of these save the first was mine.
Not really, but there are plenty of minion based decks that care about clearing doomsayer and getting extra reach out of a stat flip.
Rogue + all the weapon enchantments + lorewalker cho.
It's not actually good, but it's really funny when the opponent can't play any of his full hand of weapon enchantments.
I thought Confuse was going to be really good in Priest but it sucked, so not sure about this card. This is neutral and comes with a body, so it is already better than Confuse but is it good enough to see play? I kind of doubt it.
There is Street Trickster as well.
There is Street Trickster as well.
I like the demon its shield and sword in minion form.
Or, just confuse in minion form.
Not sold on the weapons but I'm excited for this expansion. Lots of fun and interesting cards.
This is the least hype I had for an expansion. It's not a weak set but it's just not very interesting.
All I know day one is that I just put a psychic scream in my priest deck and hit play. That's just lame. Last set same thing happened on day1. People just put UI in jade druid and hit legend.
I like to experiment with some of the rogue cards too but that's it. There are not many things so far that I'm excited to try and feel like they're opening up some new kind of gameplay.
All I know day one is that I just put a psychic scream in my priest deck and hit play. That's just lame. Last set same thing happened on day1. People just put UI in jade druid and hit legend.
I like to experiment with some of the rogue cards too but that's it. There are not many things so far that I'm excited to try and feel like they're opening up some new kind of gameplay.
I wish they would have left more Druid ramp for Exp 2 of next year. I get that they want to encourage big druid style of play, but one of my primary complaints about UI wasn't the card itself -- it was that it encouraged poor hand management in the hope that you could race to 10 and UI.
That being said, with Mire Keeper and Jade Blossom rotating out at the same time, maybe it won't be so bad. UI isn't nearly as annoying as it was before the meta settled.
That being said, with Mire Keeper and Jade Blossom rotating out at the same time, maybe it won't be so bad. UI isn't nearly as annoying as it was before the meta settled.
It has certainly hit my quota for hype.
Well, that's up to you and the deck you want to play. I think they're trying to introduce a few new archetypes for us to experiment with.
I think that this set, along with Gadgetzan, goes for more "street level" archetypes, and maybe some of us prefer the high fantasy aspect with otherworldly beings like C'Thun, deathknights, and infinite demon portals. Probably more hype than a kobold thematically, at least.
Dude Paladin is already the #1 deck in Wild.
What does streelevel even mean? MSoG had clear themes and added ridiculous cards to facilitate them.
Katakombs and Kobolds doesn't appear to have either.
Katakombs and Kobolds doesn't appear to have either.
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