Cool the books are cheap for prime so ill order them soon
Mind linking to the comic adaptation please?
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Zahn Trilogy Is The Best Star Wars Trilogy Post-1983.
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Mind linking to the comic adaptation please?
They were good books. Thrawn was obviously good enough to make it into the new canon, and C'boath was better written then any of the villains in the new films for sure. Dude creeped me out when I first read them. Clone madness was legit
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Comics are harder to track down since I don't think Dark Horse is doing reprints. I'd definitely read the books first, the comics were basically a mini-series type thing that condensed things down, the books are the full experience.
i only played it on original xbox and a few PC versions, and it was a lot better on PC. Not sure how the mobile versions are, but i can imagine the controls would transfer fairly well to a tablet.
If you haven't read anything about the story, go in as blind as you can. the combat can be wonky at times, but it's hands-down my favorite video game.
also sorry if this is too off-topic, lol.
if i were in charge of VII-IX i'd have used the books as a rough outline or blueprint. with caveats it's how i always imagined a sequel trilogy to play out
but i understand 1991 was a very different time for the franchise. really can't compare a glorified fanfic to a multibillion hollywood production in 2017 no matter how you slice it
but i understand 1991 was a very different time for the franchise. really can't compare a glorified fanfic to a multibillion hollywood production in 2017 no matter how you slice it
There were different levels of canon, and they were never 100% canon. But they were in the second level. They're not anything anymore.
Since I value some part of the EU far more than the original story, including these books, it's the movies that aren't canon anymore to me, I'm full former-EU and don't care anymore for the official ones (haven't even seen VII, VIII and Rogue one, and définitively don't intend to, but I've reread a good third of the EU since)
Most (all) clone plots are awful, including the canon ones. Except maybe Boba Fett and C'Baoth to some extend.
The Ysalamiri/Vornskr ecology, on the other hand, get a pass to me. It's definitively not a stupid creation and offers a lot of opportunities. But I admit I love SW EU, but I am not fond of Jedis in general (with plently of exceptions).
But there's more valuable and interesting characters created by Zahn and a couple others in the EU than in the canon.
I'll have to look into getting these. Abrams and co. are just retreading the OT. This sounds more interesting.
The books were fantastic. They showed that the SW universe were not limited, even if they used the same characters from IV to VI.
It put the rebellion in a different light, it showed what the Empire could be and why someone would support it.
And while the Clone Wars and Rebels went into a more mystic interpretation of new lore and new planets, Zahn chose hard Sci-Fi which fit SW way better (or at least, I like it far more).
I enjoyed it all around and it expanded the universe in a fantastic way. Opposed to the new movies and games post old EU.
The folks at Disney should take a look into their vault and use some of the lessons learned here.
It put the rebellion in a different light, it showed what the Empire could be and why someone would support it.
And while the Clone Wars and Rebels went into a more mystic interpretation of new lore and new planets, Zahn chose hard Sci-Fi which fit SW way better (or at least, I like it far more).
I enjoyed it all around and it expanded the universe in a fantastic way. Opposed to the new movies and games post old EU.
The folks at Disney should take a look into their vault and use some of the lessons learned here.
That's probably true.
Also true? Clone Wars seasons 3-5 are the best Star Wars content committed to film since the OT.
Also true? Clone Wars seasons 3-5 are the best Star Wars content committed to film since the OT.
That's for fans.
The current trilogy is for making money and selling toys.
Coolios, thanks mate.
Anyone got any feedback on the audiobook versions? Were they good?
Sorry for the double post but is this book worth picking up as well after finishing the trilogy?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0345511271/?tag=era0f0-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0345511271/?tag=era0f0-20
It's been that way since Return of the Jedi. That was a toy commercial first and a movie second.
Yes. And the XWing series.
Meanwhile, the NJO shit can fuck off. Some characters are great in it. But as a whole, zzz.
I read the third book in this trilogy as a kid and never touched the other two, to my knowledge. I remember the cover vividly, and I remember picking it up and being confused as fuck by parts but still basically having a good time.
Not sure if it's worth going back now. The X-Wing books (out of order, because my mum got me what she could from garage sales and whatnot) were my jam at ages 9-12.
Not sure if it's worth going back now. The X-Wing books (out of order, because my mum got me what she could from garage sales and whatnot) were my jam at ages 9-12.
The political landscape of the Zahn trilogy makes so much more sense than the bizarre First Order/Resistance dynamic of this new trilogy.
Are there any plans to have this among with crimson empire and dark empire collected in a epic collection from marvel ? The comics are expensive
Ugh
I like these books, but the mythical status to which they are held as the years have gone on just baffle me.
They also always seem to be excused in the logic leap debate around Star Wars. They go just as much over the top and crazy as some other the other EU stuff, and I'd argue it's further out there on the crazy scale vs most of the current new book canon.
I like these books, but the mythical status to which they are held as the years have gone on just baffle me.
They also always seem to be excused in the logic leap debate around Star Wars. They go just as much over the top and crazy as some other the other EU stuff, and I'd argue it's further out there on the crazy scale vs most of the current new book canon.
The Zahn books are a real blessing and a curse for me. They are so good, they gave us a great follow up story for the original trilogy. But they tainted how I felt about the sequels when they threw out Zahn's work and made it non canon. Can't really enjoy the new stuff now and when people ask why, I have to explain that there was a much better story already in my head that the new movies couldn't possibly ever live up to.
Never liked Thrawn. "I studied your cultures paintings so I know your behind that 1 asteroid out of ten thousand. Uggh such cheap writing.
The audiobooks were fantastic. They used special effects from the movies and we're redone when the books had an anniversary.
While I agree Zahn is the shit, the Star Wars fanbase as ossified to the point if that trilogy came out now and was adopted the fanbase would flip because its not the nostalgia trip they expect.
"Thrawn is cool and all but he has no force powers, lame"
"Leia's pregnant? what, some chicks write this story? Plus luke chasing after this Mara chick, what is this, Twilight?"
"Thrawn is cool and all but he has no force powers, lame"
"Leia's pregnant? what, some chicks write this story? Plus luke chasing after this Mara chick, what is this, Twilight?"
If they did a film trilogy where Luke had an evil clones named Luuke the internet would shit all over it.
Yeah they're worth a read. They definitely have way more "these were star wars speculative fiction" plot points than a lot of people want to admit (a movie off of these would probably be panned by critics as absurd) but it was the trilogy that really kicked off the Star Wars EU and one of the better set of books because it was before it became a free for all. Thrawn's interesting but Zahn eventually wrote so much about him it got tiresome (we really didn't need an entire book about the outbound flight project and I bought it as a teen).
I decided to start reading the legends books after Disney bought Star Wars, and I started doing that only last month lol.
Anyway, I've read Aftermath, Tarkin, and Heir To The Empire so far and the latter is definitely the best. Zahn is certainly a better writer and it shows. I'm excited to jump into the second book in the trilogy. Wondering what's in store, although I do know about a romance between Luke and Mara. Hoping it's good!
Edit: Read my post on page 4 as to how I feel about this trilogy now because it ain't good! lmao
Anyway, I've read Aftermath, Tarkin, and Heir To The Empire so far and the latter is definitely the best. Zahn is certainly a better writer and it shows. I'm excited to jump into the second book in the trilogy. Wondering what's in store, although I do know about a romance between Luke and Mara. Hoping it's good!
Edit: Read my post on page 4 as to how I feel about this trilogy now because it ain't good! lmao
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Agree wholeheartedly. The new films feel so small and not really like a galaxy at all. The Zahn books feel....thought out.
Zahn has an advantage here, though. It's easier to deal with all of that in a book setting than a movie setting.
Ugh. Shadows was fanfic level terrible. Dash was better, in novel, than every other character. Black Sun and their leader.....ugh.
I was so pleased when that asteroid hit Rendar's ship.
Timothy Zahn and Kevin J. Anderson were the cream of the crop for EU material. Everything else (that I read) was trash.
Ehhh Kevin J Anderson is a competent writer but his major stories are pretty next level goofy. They've got ridiculous super weapons, force ghost possession, and happy ending for all. Its also not great when the Jedi Academy Trilogy later got reconned by self insert the book, I Jedi to make more "sense" in the EU.
The fandom is raging because TLJ is pushing the series into new and unexpected territory. How's that retreading?
I read this trilogy as a 12 year old. Can't remember a single thing about them, but googled luuke and good lord, just no.
Still interested in revisiting these though.
Dash didn't die. It was a ruse to make everyone think he died. :)
This comes up everytime, like how is the EU so crazy compared to the source material? All those things sound perfectly fine for a Star Wars movie. "Oh they can destroy planets with a giant laser? That's fine."
"They can destroy stars in the EU with a small ship!? FUCK THIS SHITTY FANFIC!"
The Thrawn trilogy did a way better job of fleshing out the post ROTJ world and explaining the political situation than the new movies. It is a book though, so it has more room to do that kind of thing.
The way that he explained how the Empire was able to become such a resurgent military power was genius though, and I wish the movies had done something similar.
The way that he explained how the Empire was able to become such a resurgent military power was genius though, and I wish the movies had done something similar.
One thing I'll say for the EU novels, they always had sweet looking cover art. Even some of the books that take place decades later and have idealized versions of how the actors would look, it's like "yeah, I could see them looking like that 25 years later."
Absolutely loved these books, read them over the course of a couple years, mainly as bathroom break reads.
If you're into digital comics and want to have a condensed version, the comic collection is only $7 on sale (normally $25)
https://www.comixology.com/Star-Wars-The-Thrawn-Trilogy/digital-comic/166377
If you're into digital comics and want to have a condensed version, the comic collection is only $7 on sale (normally $25)
https://www.comixology.com/Star-Wars-The-Thrawn-Trilogy/digital-comic/166377
Loved the old stuff. Loved how people actually grew and changed. Got married had kids. Etc
Instead we have people reverting or being depressed.
How did the old books end? I'm guessing Darth Cadeus is yet to be revealed etc. No justice for Mara?
Instead we have people reverting or being depressed.
How did the old books end? I'm guessing Darth Cadeus is yet to be revealed etc. No justice for Mara?