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House_Of_Lightning

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Glad to see you like it. It aggravates me when people wonk about "oh Mercedes and AMG just don't handle well" and then I think of how bad BMW has been for the past six or seven years (Minus the M240/M2) and wonder WTF they're talking about. Party it is BMW but AMG has just absolutely stepped their game up.

Good call on the S model. No point in this day and age with everything going FI. I know several guys that have Carrera S' and then got a tune and are getting almost 911 Turbo numbers for < 40k Porsche is asking for.

You didn't happen to check out a Quadrifoglio by chance did you?
 

nib95

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Thanks to everyone for the compliments. I've never owned an AMG before and never even considered it until very recently. I immediately took to it in a way that I did not feel with the M4. The MCT transmission and the C63's agility were the big surprises. The steering is amazingly precise, especially for a car that weighs 4,000 pounds. And the trans shifts smoothly and instantly in both manual and automatic modes. I have been warned that the MCT can exhibit lag when manually shifting at redline, but since I'm still breaking the motor in I haven't been able to test. I did take it up to 6,000 one time at about 90% throttle and there wasn't any lag.

I got the non-S C63, which is rated 30hp lower, has 1" smaller front brake rotors (with 6 piston calipers) and a mechanical locking differential rather than an active electronic diff. The horsepower difference is 100% software. It has the exact same engine, turbos, etc. All it takes is a flash to gain a whole lot of extra HP if I decide to go that route. So far I'm pretty doubtful that I need it, the car already builds speed so quickly even when I short shift it at 4,000 - 4,500. The mechanical diff works fine and the car also has torque vectoring, so I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything I'll need as I'm not going to track it. If I want to upgrade to C63S front brakes it's a direct swap: Calipers, pads, rotors. The rest of the hardware is the same. It costs about $3,500, so I'll need a lot of convincing before putting down so much money on what may not be a very impactful upgrade.

I may or may not lower it a bit with KW height adjustable springs. At most I'd do a 20mm drop. But the suspension is working so well as-is that I'm very reluctant to tamper with it.

It has the AMG performance seats which are on par with Porsche's carbon bucket seats in terms of support and firmness, but the AMG seats are fully adjustable and heated.

It also has the AMG performance exhaust, which I can't believe is DOT legal. In Sport+ mode it basically opens a cutout and bypasses the mufflers. So the sound is coming directly from the downpipes. The pops on fast upshifts sound like firecrackers.

The car is hilarious and makes me shake my head in disbelief because it's so brawny yet it has so much agility, it's insane that a porky two ton Mercedes can dance around on its toes the way it does. I'm sure the M4 Comp is faster around a track but it lacks the theater of the AMG and the M4 suspension is very stiff, even in comfort mode. The C63 in comfort mode drives like a regular C class.

Awesome. You could always remap your car to get closer to S performance too.

I'm actually looking to remap my XF S in about a year or so (not straight away as I still have two years of warranty left that I don't wait to void), which should give me an extra ~50bhp, an extra ~50 lb/ft of torque, a significant mid-range torque/performance boost, more balanced power delivery, with barely any difference to mpg for not much extra money.
 

House_Of_Lightning

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Awesome. You could always remap your car to get closer to S performance too.

I'm actually looking to remap my XF S in about a year or so (not straight away as I still have two years of warranty left that I don't wait to void), which should give me an extra ~50bhp, an extra ~50 lb/ft of torque, a significant mid-range torque/performance boost, more balanced power delivery, with barely any difference to mpg for not much extra money.

How do you like your XF? I juggled the idea of getting one over the Panamera due to price alone...
 

nib95

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How do you like your XF? I juggled the idea of getting one over the Panamera due to price alone...

Overall I'm very impressed so far. Really enjoying the driving experience and general ownership.

Here's a breakdown of positives and negatives in greater detail.


Positives:

1.) The drive is absolutely fantastic. It is the best handling and steering executive saloon in its class that I've driven. It handles almost like a sports car as oppose to a heavy saloon, and whilst there is a slight degree of body roll, the feedback and steering response is excellent, and the turning agility and steering correction on point. The vehicle also hugs the road and feels much more planted than other similar executive vehicles.

The brakes are also decent, offering a nice degree of modulation, stopping power and response.

2.) The drive is also extremely smooth and soaks up gradient changes, bumps etc effortlessly. Perhaps it's the double wishbone suspension, but the ride is so much more comfortable and smooth than I ever expected it to be, especially given its on 20" low profile run flats.

3.) Noise proofing whilst not new 5 series levels, is overall very good. Even doing high speeds on a motorway, with your music turned off, road and outside noise is very unintrusive.

4.) Whilst the car isn't going to give you supercar speeds, and doesn't have the quickest 0-60 in the world, it is still plenty fast and has torque for days. In fact there's so much torque that even with an entire car full of overweight family members, the thing still pulls like there's barely any weight in it.

I live in a very hilly area, so the torque is just perfect. It bombs up steep hills, fully loaded, without a care in the world.

The car is also pretty wheelspin happy which makes it that little bit more entertaining to drive. That said, switching to the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S tires has greatly reduced the amount of wheelspin I get, and provided much better traction overall. I still haven't dared completely turning off the traction control yet, as I'd probably be drifting all over the place, I do however leave it in Sport+Dynamic the majority of the time.

In that sense, I'm glad I got the diesel over the petrol. Whilst the petrol is slightly quicker in its 0-60, not only is it not nearly as torquey as the diesel model, but the fuel economy is also far worse.

5.) Whilst the infotainment system isn't without its issues and hang ups, it is very pretty looking, slick and modern. The graphics are ace, and the sat Nav pinch to zoom, swipe to move or to go to the next screen etc, on the whole is very responsive. It is also super bright (even at 50% brightness it's brighter than you'd need).

Likewise, the TFT digital instrument cluster, whilst a little on the smaller side, is also excellent. I love the use of graphics, the way it all changes colour and design when you switch driving modes, the way information (especially sat Nav instructions and turns) show up in the left most cluster, the way you can have your sat Nav displayed over the entire thing etc.

6.) This car is incredible value for money when purchased used. The discount I got for a barely used, only 1 year old vehicle, was quite frankly outrageous. The result of which I was able to get lots of nice creature comforts and options on top, including heated steering wheel, heated seats (front and rear), 14 way seat memory, panoramic sunroof, upgraded infotainment and audio, automatic wipers etc. Most people who see the car and know the list price, tend to think I paid far more for it than I actually did.

7.) I personally love the look of the car. I know it's subjective, but I've always admired the look of the newest Jags. They're some sort of British, Aston Martin, German mash up, that just looks very modern, clean and appealing. Whilst the interior isn't as snazzy as the German rivals, it still looks slick and sporty with the way it all lights up and has lit lines throughout.

8.) The interior and boot space is very generous and spacious. You get a lot of legroom and headroom, and the boot, whilst not the most efficiently shaped, can fit an absolute crap tonne inside it.

I don't know if the car is less wide than the 5 series, 3 GT, E Class etc, but it certainly feels less wide. I'm able to squeeze it through tighter gaps so much more confidently, and I pretty much never touch or overrun road/lane markings in this car, which is something I'd unknowingly do on rare occasion in the other cars on motorways after a bump or gradient etc.

9.) I love using the mobile phone app to not only preheat my car before a journey, but to track journeys, mpg, fuel usage etc. It's a geeky little thing, but cool and convenient nonetheless.


Negatives: (bare in mind most of these are first world nit picks.)

1.) I think the new 5 series and E class have slightly better interior cabin quality, solidity and by a tiny margin, technology. Eg, I love the wireless mobile charging tray in the new 5 series, prefer having the Sat Nav screen slightly higher up for better line of sight, and prefer nudging the gearstick left to engage Sport mode instead of turning a jog dial like in the Jag. The former just feels a bit more tactile, fun and sporty.

2.) I also still prefer BMW's iDrive infotainment just on the basis of being able to know everything from muscle memory alone.

Jaguars InControl Touch Pro (10.2" upgraded infotainment) is flashier and more modern, like using a giant iPad, and 95% of the time it's super quick and slick (at least on the latest software), however now and again it still hangs or lags, and you can't really press the buttons on the touch screen on muscle memory alone. You still have to very quickly glance at the screen before you touch a particular setting, mode or panel.

3.) The audio quality whilst very good and better than default systems in most executive cars, is not quite as good as some of the most premium upgraded systems I've heard. Whilst the bass is excellent, and it has both bass and subwoofer options that can be tweaked to pack a whollop, in my opinion the overall balance is too bass centric, and the tweeters and treble aren't quite as crystalline or spacious as I'd like. I actually keep bass at default levels, but put the treble up to counter balance the warmer nature of the sonic presentation.

On the plus side, the instrument separation and imaging is still very precise and detailed, and everything sounds really dynamic and engaging. I just feel there's an ever so slight lack of air to the sound. If they included an EQ option instead of just treble, bass and subwoofer options, this could have been remedied.

4.) MPG has been surprisingly good for me, bare in mind I'm driving the diesel variant. In general driving and motorway driving especially, even pushing high speeds, it barely drinks much fuel at all. However during major traffic, when you're barely inching forward over long spells, fuel economy ends up being pretty lacklustre, and the auto start stop function does little to remedy this. This is a car that prefers to be driving, not waiting around in traffic. Though to be fair, there's always eco mode for when you're in heavy traffic, though in eco mode the car is considerably slower and less throttle responsive.

5.) The noise from the engine lacks in theatrics, which isn't too surprising given its class and executive nature, but unless you really floor it or pull down your windows, the raucous isn't quite there. it's more of a subdued roar or high rev whine than shoutyness and pops and bangs.

6.) Rear visibility is pretty poor. Not the biggest issue, but a negative nonetheless.

7.) The AC vents are not the most powerful in the world. Whilst in the X5, max AC feels like a jet turbine fan to your face, in the Jag you barely feel it.


Anyway, I know I really went on, but those are my one month impressions thus far.
 
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Your audio quality comment reminds me, my new car has a Burmester sound system but it's pretty disapponting. It has so much treble that it causes instant ear fatigue and it distorts too easily. It only has a 3 band EQ, so adjusting it hasn't been too useful. My last car had a DIRAC system that was very good. I hate the idea of going aftermarket because of how integrated the infotainment systems are in today's cars, plus most installers are butchers.
 

nib95

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Your audio quality comment reminds me, my new car has a Burmester sound system but it's pretty disapponting. It has so much treble that it causes instant ear fatigue and it distorts too easily. It only has a 3 band EQ, so adjusting it hasn't been too useful. My last car had a DIRAC system that was very good. I hate the idea of going aftermarket because of how integrated the infotainment systems are in today's cars, plus most installers are butchers.

There is a way to get around this if it really bothers you. Simply play your music from your mobile using Bluetooth, and use the music players built in EQ (eg PowerAmp, Samsung Music Player, eQu etc) to tweak the sound signature to your liking, in your case reducing the upper frequencies (likely a 6khz to 10khz spike). EQing in the app will change the sound from your cars speakers. The only negative is that this will only work for music played through that app, not your cars built in DAB radio etc.
 

Crayon

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My first driving lessons.

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Tappin Brews

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My evo turns 3 today! Time flies when you're having fun. In all seriousness, still looking for excuses to drive it and enjoying it like it's day 1.
 

Crayon

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My evo turns 3 today! Time flies when you're having fun. In all seriousness, still looking for excuses to drive it and enjoying it like it's day 1.

Dude that's good to hear. What a great car. I don't know much about the late evos. Does yours have a 4G63 or did they replace that with something newer?
 

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nib95

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My brother in law brought down his brand new Audi S5 Sportback yesterday, which I not only got to drive back to back with my XF S (3.0D), but that we got to race, which made for a decent comparison given brand new they both cost roughly the same. The S5 is an awesome car, though I'm not 100% sold on the looks.

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Engine sound.

Right off the bat, I have to say, what with it being a petrol and having higher bhp, the S5 sounds way better, but is also far louder, which may or may not be a good thing depending on what you're after. Floor it and the thing gives a pretty unavoidably loud scowl, growl and whine, a far cry from the XF S's low murmured grunt and more distant or modest whine. One is clearly going for a bit more theatre (though it's still not that loud or shouty), whilst the other is aiming for more luxury or subtlety.

Speed.

Speed wise, whilst the S5 is definitively quicker overall, and has almost no perceptible turbo lag, it didn't feel a massive amount quicker, which is strange given it has 54bhp more, along with AWD and a whole second quicker official 0-60. I don't know if it's because I live in a hilly area and the torque advantage of the XF S kicked in to bridge the speed and AWD gap, but basically if you really give it some welly in the residential areas near where I live, they both pack a mighty punch.

If you just straight floor it from a standing still, the S5 is certainly quicker off the line, but when we raced I used power breaking and pre-loaded my throttle to around 1800 pm (roughly where the turbo kicks in to offer the most punch), and I was mostly keeping up until we hit mid to higher speeds where he started pulling. Similarly, on the motorway, when you're doing....much higher speeds...the S5 definitely has a bit more venom.

Brakes.

Brakes wise whilst there was very little in it and both performed really well, if I had to pick, I'd say I preferred the modulation and stopping power on the XF S, which is strange given its a slightly heavier car. I think perhaps the XF's brakes are set up to have a bit more pressure sensitivity or bite, or the speed difference between the cars has an effect. Either way I gave the brakes in both cars some aggressive testing just for curiosities sake.

Interior.

Interior cabin in the S5 is nice, if a little cramped and inefficient (barely any storage space, not even to put your phone lol), but little touches like the carbon fibre trim are sexy. The S5's interior whilst fancy in areas, I think has a bit too much redundant space, and the centre strip looks too wide. The XF S's is similary plasticy in areas, but it looks more uniform, is less bloated, is lit better and is more efficiently spaced.

Personally I still think both cars could do with less plastic and more premium materials, and ultimately I still prefer the interior cabin quality of BMW and Mercedes latest efforts.

With rear legroom and boot space it's a similar situation, where the XF S just generally feels and also is slightly more spacious and convenient, largely down to it simply being a bigger car.

Infotainment wise, I think I prefer Jags which I never thought I'd say. The screens are bigger, the graphics slicker and less busy, and the UI more accessible looking. I think the Audi jog dial thing does make things a touch snappier maybe, and it offers something a bit more tactile to fiddle with, but efficiency wise there was basically nothing in it.

The drive.

Finally the handling, whilst I really like the look and feel of the Audi's squared off performance steering wheel, which almost gives you an F1 esque feel, I did find the steering a bit on the light side and ever so slightly lacking in feedback compared to the Jags, though it's still sharp and pretty direct. The Jags steering being stiffer, weightier and chunkier gives you a bit more involvement.

I expected the Jag to have a much more comfortable drive, but since I just left both in Dynamic and Sport modes the entire time whilst testing, I can't really say one offered a notably more comfortable ride than the other. Both fared well in this regard, and ate bumps, gradients, imperfections etc in the road very well.

Fuel economy.

Finally, mpg or fuel efficiency. The S5 was getting around 20mpg, and the XF S was getting around 32mpg. Pretty big difference to say the least, though bare in mind hilly areas always offer up worse mpg.

My brother in law mentioned that a trip from London, down to mine in the South West and back up to London again (around 250 to 300 miles in total) uses up almost his entire tank of fuel. I don't know how accurate that anecdotal piece of information is, but in comparison my XF S does two trips from mine to London and back again, so basically almost double the journey distance when long bouts of motorway usage are in the mix.

Conclusion.

Ultimately, I think they're both cracking cars. Go for the S5 Sportback if you what a more modern, cutting edge futuristic sort of design, a lower slung coupe type profile and a car with a bit more theatre, sportiness and outright speed, especially in the upper revs or at higher speeds. Go for the XF S if you want something a little more sophisticated, comfortable, convenient and spacious, with plenty of power and torque, more steering involvement and far better fuel efficiency.
 
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Crayon

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So the idle valve was going bad on my 3sge. It's similar to the one you would find on a Honda K series. The OEM Denso unit is like $200. Meanwhile, there's these no name fake ones on Amazon for 30 bucks. I'm very wary of going for the bottom of the barrel, but in this case its $200 Denso or $30 fake shit. If there was something in between, I would have strongly considered that. But you got to keep in mind I get these engines for 600 bucks. So I went with the $30 Amazon special.

And it worked great.

For one fuckin month. Now my idle is shit again.
 

nib95

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So the idle valve was going bad on my 3sge. It's similar to the one you would find on a Honda K series. The OEM Denso unit is like $200. Meanwhile, there's these no name fake ones on Amazon for 30 bucks. I'm very wary of going for the bottom of the barrel, but in this case its $200 Denso or $30 fake shit. If there was something in between, I would have strongly considered that. But you got to keep in mind I get these engines for 600 bucks. So I went with the $30 Amazon special.

And it worked great.

For one fuckin month. Now my idle is shit again.

How long would the OEM Denso unit be expected to last?

With these things I always personally just pay extra for better. You could always email or message the store or seller to try and bargain for a better price?
 

Crayon

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How long would the OEM Denso unit be expected to last?

With these things I always personally just pay extra for better. You could always email or message the store or seller to try and bargain for a better price?

Well the engine has 40 or 60 thousand miles and had to sit in a warehouse for like 10 years and that thing still worked once I ran the engine. So it would probably last a while. I will Pony up for the Denso one now.

Or maybe I gamble on another$30 one... Lol.
 

nib95

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Get one already restored or do it yourself?

Already restored. I don't know the first thing about car repairs, builds or mechanical engineering! Don't really have the time at the moment to start and learn for a project either.
 

Crayon

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Already restored. I don't know the first thing about car repairs, builds or mechanical engineering! Don't really have the time at the moment to start and learn for a project either.

Wise. I myself also want a trick Z. A z32. I want to do everything myself, but had little experience besides having a broad mechanical inclination. So I set about with my practice car, my Celica. The Celica represents a model of the things I would like to be able to do with the z. I started at the deep end; buying a trashed car with a hole in the block. Day one I taught myself how to tow a car.

So far it's turned out to be a good idea. Without anyone around to help, it's been a bit of an odyssey to learn everything from mechanics to bodywork, to networking for various resources.

It's been an incredible experience so far. My sense of closeness with the car and my confidence in my skills is transformative.

So it's a big thing to get into and while I'd recommend it, it's wise to look for a car that was done by someone who learned the hard way long ago.
 

Skai

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Any pick-up fans here?

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2019 Chevy Silverado.

I'm really liking it and thinking to trade up truck to one of these next year my work truck.
 

nib95

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Any pick-up fans here?

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2019 Chevy Silverado.

I'm really liking it and thinking to trade up truck to one of these next year my work truck.

Never driven one! I'd like to though! In the UK 4x4s and vans make up the bulk of that utility vehicle market.
 

jamsy

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So I need to get new tires for my Evora.

Any reason I shouldn't take it to Costco or Tire Rack or something? Pretty sure the Lotus dealer will charge a premium that I don't want to pay for...
 

nib95

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So I need to get new tires for my Evora.

Any reason I shouldn't take it to Costco or Tire Rack or something? Pretty sure the Lotus dealer will charge a premium that I don't want to pay for...

The dealer will charge the usual premium, but just search online for the cheapest price including fitting. In the UK Costco do actually sell them, but I'd recommend the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S's. Best general road performance tire there is imo.
 
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Phonzo

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Can someone give me advice on car keys?

So my situation is this.

2.5 years ago i bought a certified preowned car. They gave me 2 sets of keys. Remotely they work fine, but it is not until much later that i find out the physical keys do not work. They may have given me ones that don't match or something. So in a situation where if my car is completely out of batteries, i won't be able to get in.

Any advice on what to do?
 

Crayon

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Can someone give me advice on car keys?

So my situation is this.

2.5 years ago i bought a certified preowned car. They gave me 2 sets of keys. Remotely they work fine, but it is not until much later that i find out the physical keys do not work. They may have given me ones that don't match or something. So in a situation where if my car is completely out of batteries, i won't be able to get in.

Any advice on what to do?

Ooh weird. Get ahold of that dealer and explain. They can get a key reproduced with the electronic fob and everything but it's really expensive. They should give you a break on that even if the mistake was from that long ago.
 

opticalmace

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Any of y'all in the bay area? Sort of new here, thinking of driving Skyline tomorrow from Alice's to (I guess) the road that goes to Half Moon Bay. Not sure how zany it gets on the weekends but I guess I'll find out.

Would prefer a road with good sightlines (and lots of sharp curves) but I'm not sure if there are many of those around here.
 

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VW says Golf-like ID EV will undercut Model 3 price by $7-8k.

The 168-horsepower I.D. is expected to have a range of 249 to 373 miles (or rather, 400-600 kilometers). Inside EVs thinks that will amount to 175-265 miles in real-world usage, and Electrek noted that a range comparison brandished by Volkswagen showed Tesla's Model 3 to have a 345km/215-mile range, but that's solely based on a Tesla statement and not based on the New European Driving Cycle, a number Tesla has not disclosed for the Model 3.
 

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There's a thread on /r/cars about their engine issues and several folks stating that the issues have already been resolved.

But they'll forever be an ugly ass jelly bean looking hatch, so...

Its a hot hatch. None of them look sleek or beautiful.

Exactly. If you look in that segment, you have a bunch of ugly, boring designs, from the Golf R which is just dull as can be, to the Focus RS/ST which are ugly (and narrow), to whatever the STI/WRX have going on, to the Civic Type R, which looks like a child's toy.
 

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Exactly. If you look in that segment, you have a bunch of ugly, boring designs, from the Golf R which is just dull as can be, to the Focus RS/ST which are ugly (and narrow), to whatever the STI/WRX have going on, to the Civic Type R, which looks like a child's toy.


And now the Hyundai i30 N, which is a dog compared to the gorgeous Coupe.
 

Cake Boss

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And now the Hyundai i30 N, which is a dog compared to the gorgeous Coupe.

Really? I think the i30N is the best looking of the bunch and the one that will age the best, especially compared to the Type R.

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Too bad we aren't getting one, instead the Veloster N is supposed to be revealed this week :/

My last hope is the 2019 Mazda 3, if that's anything like the concept car oh man, plus with that new engine.

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Crayon

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New shoes today!

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This is a 205 55 16 bfg sport comp 2 on a 7.5" konig runlite.

I got a set of these treads for our corolla about a year ago and I was very pleased. I was thinking of going for more aggressive rubber for my celica but I think I'll take some more time with the suspension before I go there.

I'm so happy. Ive been driving on the stock leaky chrome rims for 2 months now.
 
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dr.rocktopus

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The new line of Konig wheels are actually pretty sharp; I really like the Hypergrams. I wish some of their 4x100 wheels came in lower offsets though.

Sport Comp 2 is supposed to be a good tire! I have the Hankook Ventus V12 Evo 2 which is like a worse version of the BFG. They absolutely make a difference in grip and feel.
 

Crayon

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The new line of Konig wheels are actually pretty sharp; I really like the Hypergrams. I wish some of their 4x100 wheels came in lower offsets though.

Sport Comp 2 is supposed to be a good tire! I have the Hankook Ventus V12 Evo 2 which is like a worse version of the BFG. They absolutely make a difference in grip and feel.

The sport comp 2 is indeed very good. In the Corolla, the front ones feel a tiny bit over worked as far as sidewall support. But the ride quality is the trade off there; They are pretty plush. Here, I'm going wist one size narrower read on a .5" wider rim, on Al lighter car, and I'm willing to run a lil camber. So I hope they feel more supportive over a wider range of pressures on this car.
 

Crayon

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If there is a god and if he is good, why would he allow someone to put a small block in an rx7?
 

Cake Boss

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hmmm the Fiesta ST or the GT86. I need to make a decision by February. fuck both have their pros and cons.
 

dr.rocktopus

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An 86 would be a second car/personal car for me. If there is a usage case where you need to carry more than two people I would do a Fiesta ST. I go through the same debate every once in a while too.

Crayon how's the tires with some more miles on them?
 

Crayon

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Crayon how's the tires with some more miles on them?

Well first I'm glad they fit. I tried to measure before but I did a real slapdash estimation by just mashing my finger between the strut and the old tire and being like "yup. There's room." And the went on with ample space, if I do say so.

Great so far. This set is a different size than the one I got on the rolla so I wasn't sure if they would have quite the same properties but they seem very similar. Including the curiously high pressure they like. A lot of tores say about 45 max, and these say 51. Sure enough, if you liked 32 in your typical tire, you'll find these want 37.

I've only got to drive one day on them so far since I leave the car at work sometimes. But that one day was so nice. The ride and steering on these is so choice. That's why I buckled and got them instead of trying for something more aggressive. The car had direzzas on, which have a heartier sidewall... And the roads I use are just so chattery... I missed the supple feel the Corolla had with these bfgs.

So far I think I'm going to like them alot. I'll report back when I find the pressures and see if they are everything I wanted.

I had been set on the Firestone Firehawk Indies but maybe next time. Oh you know what weighed on the decision: a year later the bfgs on the rolla are wearing beautifully. That's very reassuring.
 

Crayon

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Oct 26, 2017
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hmmm the Fiesta ST or the GT86. I need to make a decision by February. fuck both have their pros and cons.

Darn. That is a little tough. Questions time:

How long do you think you're going to keep it?

Thinking about any modification? What in particular?

What was your favorite car that you owned?

What cars would you be thinking about if you were going to spend twice as much?
 

nib95

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Oct 28, 2017
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hmmm the Fiesta ST or the GT86. I need to make a decision by February. fuck both have their pros and cons.

If it was my choice I'd go fot a GT86. Just looks like an altogether more substantial and serious vehicle. Much prefer the more aggressive and imposing looks.

Whilst the Fiesta may be a touch more practical with the rear seat space, the reality is it's such a small car that it's half assed practically anyway, so you might as well do the two seat thing more convincingly. The GT86 still has the rear seats mind, they're just not particularly big or useful lol.
 

sfedai0

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Oct 27, 2017
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Im going for a BRZ PP myself. Been searching for a clean S2k for half a year with no real results.
 

BlackFyre

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Oct 27, 2017
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Can someone, preferably a parent who can give me some insight on SUV vs Minivan?

I was pretty set to pull the trigger on a lease for the new CRV. I have just myself, wife and a 3 year old. We do road trips and cottaging. And we plan on having another when our finances are a bit more in order.

I've been thinking about a minivan since a sienna owner with 2 kids mentioned they moved from SUV to minivan.

What are your thoughts? Any suggestions or directions would be appreciated.